posted by bigorangebuck22

So Trump has declared war on Christmas?

Nah.  Only if you are a Democrat and cancel the Christmas party.  It would be about being PC or catering to snowflakes or something.

If you're a Republican and do it, then you're just a red-, white-, and blue-blooded patriot who's sick of the "lame stream" media's shit.

posted by O-Trap

Nah.  Only if you are a Democrat and cancel the Christmas party.  It would be about being PC or catering to snowflakes or something.

If you're a Republican and do it, then you're just a red-, white-, and blue-blooded patriot who's sick of the "lame stream" media's shit.

Agreed.  When I was a boy, this country meant something.  Now, well, now it's just...HEY GET OFF MY LAWN YOU DAMNED KIDS!  These damned kids with their crazy rocking and rolling.  

Manufacturing Job Openings Reach All-Time High in October.
Manufacturing job openings reached a new all-time high (522,000) in the latest numbers from the Department of Labor…

Amazing how good all this Russian collusion has been for the American workforce.

Wow, the Post praising Trump – a sign of the apocalypse.

By the way, the average American has received yet another ‘pay increase’ with gas now around $1.95 / gallon.  The Trump energy policy has helped unleash our independence and economic wherewithal.

posted by QuakerOats

By the way, the average American has received yet another ‘pay increase’ with gas now around $1.95 / gallon.  The Trump energy policy has helped unleash our independence and economic wherewithal.

I bet you said that both times the gas prices crept below $2 while Obama was in office too, huh?

posted by O-Trap

I bet you said that both times the gas prices crept below $2 while Obama was in office too, huh?

You mean when he ground the economy to a halt causing demand to dry up and prices to fall?  Yeah, I remember that.

posted by QuakerOats

You mean when he ground the economy to a halt causing demand to dry up and prices to fall?  Yeah, I remember that.

So, you do agree, then, that just pointing to gas prices as an indicator of a president's tenure is ridiculously simplistic?

- Curious in Akron

posted by O-Trap

So, you do agree, then, that just pointing to gas prices as an indicator of a president's tenure is ridiculously simplistic?

- Curious in Akron

No; as everyone on here with your talent level understands, I am pointing out the good that comes from policies that are conducive to economic growth and energy development and independence.  If sub-$2 gas occurred from ’08-’16, it was for the wrong reasons, unaffordable for the millions without work, and unnecessary for the businesses idled.

posted by QuakerOats

No; as everyone on here with your talent level understands, I am pointing out the good that comes from policies that are conducive to economic growth and energy development and independence.  If sub-$2 gas occurred from ’08-’16, it was for the wrong reasons, unaffordable for the millions without work, and unnecessary for the businesses idled.

Umm ... you just said 'no', and then you agreed with my point that just pointing to the gas prices themselves as an indicator (ie. without context) isn't nuanced enough.

If you believe the nuances exist (that all drops in gas prices aren't equal), AND that those nuances are correlated to the short-term gas prices, a notably volatile metric, then perhaps that's what you should articulate, instead of just listing the gas price and calling it winning.

Assuming the brotherly love for the ‘justice reform’ will now be forthcoming.

posted by QuakerOats

Assuming the brotherly love for the ‘justice reform’ will now be forthcoming.

Beg your pardon?

when gas goes up he will blame the dems and Obama 

Nah.  Then, the gas prices will be a more complex system of fluctuation.

In other words, he'll actually be right then.

posted by O-Trap

Beg your pardon?

Criminal justice reform legislation passing, supported by the Donald.

Guess you missed it because your main stream media would never report anything that show blacks supporting Trump’s work product.  

posted by QuakerOats

Criminal justice reform legislation passing, supported by the Donald.

Guess you missed it because your main stream media would never report anything that show blacks supporting Trump’s work product.  

Ah, I didn't realized you'd switched topics so suddenly.  I thought this was somehow still in reference to gas prices.

Also, CNN's Van Jones went on live to extol Congress and the president for it, so that last statement doesn't appear to be accurate.

Well then it must be the right legislation.

And now on to the spending bill and border/national security.  Glad Donald is sticking to his guns today; hopefully The People will actually win, instead of The Swamp..

posted by QuakerOats

Well then it must be the right legislation.

Why, because it's bipartisan?  Or because Van Jones had an ever-so-brief hard-on for Trump for it?

Fuck CNN.  They're as bad as the rest.  It's the right legislation because it increases liberty for 'we the people'.

Lets not call the bump stock ban "legislation".  Wasnt that done by executive order?

posted by Spock

Lets not call the bump stock ban "legislation".  Wasnt that done by executive order?

Ah, good.  The executive order rears its ugly head, again.

It's prettty wild seeing liberals all of a sudden turn into neocons due to trump pulling out of Syria. Rumors are he plans to downscale immensely from Afghanistan too.

posted by like_that

It's prettty wild seeing liberals all of a sudden turn into neocons due to trump pulling out of Syria. Rumors are he plans to downscale immensely from Afghanistan too.

7k out soon. This is Trump's war now. If Afghanistan falls, it is in him now. 

The Syrian removal is more execution than anything. We are just leaving our allies high and dry there. The Kurds are fucked. Turkey is going to wipe them out now.

Also, it is a debate on whether ISIS is actually gone or not. I've read some well respected terrorism experts say this has vibes of the pullout in sections in Iraq that allowed ISIS to ultimately form some years ago. 

I think the bigger deal is process and how Trump doesn't give a shit about allies or strategic thought.  That is most likely why Mattis decided to leave. 

I am so Done with dealing with Afghanistan.  Basically my whole life ee have been over there.  We arent getting anywhere.  If we leave and take our money with us I don't see a problem with it.

posted by like_that

It's prettty wild seeing liberals all of a sudden turn into neocons due to trump pulling out of Syria. Rumors are he plans to downscale immensely from Afghanistan too.

Was thinking the same thing.