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QuakerOats

Senior Member

Fri, Mar 16, 2018 1:39 PM

Meanwhile, more common sense prevailing:

 

 

EPA Clarification on NSR Rules: A Major Win for Manufacturers.
In response to the NAM’s advocacy, Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Administrator Scott Pruitt issued a guidance memorandum on March 13 that will fix ambiguities in the permitting process that have prevented manufacturers from installing cleaner equipment. As the NAM testified before the Senate last fall: “The purpose of NSR (New Source Review rules), according to the EPA, is to require industrial facilities ‘to install modern pollution control equipment when they are built or when making a change that increases emissions significantly.’ In practice, however, NSR often stands in the way of efficiency upgrades and the installation of modern pollution control equipment.” The NAM pushed hard for this outcome, and the EPA listened.

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Fri, Mar 16, 2018 3:15 PM
posted by QuakerOats

If you think money center banks are similar to community banks, well, I don't know what to say. 

I stated above (in my response to gut) that there's obviously a difference between investment bank and a retail bank.  However, what you're supporting isn't a distinction based on that.  It's a distinction based on size.

You want to make a distinction based strictly on which version of banking the bank is involved in?  That has more merit.  Size is subjective and, again, parallel in principle to social welfare programs and tiered tax brackets.

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Fri, Mar 16, 2018 3:18 PM

Mine is a distinction based on business model, product offering, customer base, and ownership. 

An apple may be the size of an orange, but they are two completely different fruits. 

 

Carry on.

 

 

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Fri, Mar 16, 2018 3:26 PM
posted by QuakerOats

Mine is a distinction based on business model, product offering, customer base, and ownership. 

An apple may be the size of an orange, but they are two completely different fruits. 

 

Carry on.

That analogy describes my point, more or less.  If by "customer base," you mean the size of the customer base, I think that's still a size issue, and I'm not sure what you mean by "ownership," but product offerings and business model ... we agree on those ... at least that they make the businesses different entities.

The fact that the larger ones still have more regulation is a problem, though, and is still antithetical to free market.

 

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Fri, Mar 16, 2018 4:21 PM

I do NOT mean the size of the 'customer base'

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Fri, Mar 16, 2018 11:27 PM
posted by QuakerOats

I do NOT mean the size of the 'customer base'

Then what I said doesn't apply.  That's where the "If" came in.

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Tue, Mar 20, 2018 3:37 PM

Emerson Chairman and CEO and NAM Board Chair David Farr was interviewed on Jim Cramer’s ‘Mad Money’ show for CNBC (3/19) on Monday. Cramer called Emerson “a manufacturer’s manufacturer.” During the interview Farr said, “Clearly the tax plan helped us a lot, [and] the regulation plan.” US tax reform, Farr said, “is going to drive investment. We’ve had underinvestment in the US for too long.” He concluded, “Tax reform is good. Regulation reform is good,” and there is “huge investment going on in the United States.”

 

 

Just so refreshing to see the ship get righted; to think we were focusing on which bathroom we are supposed to pee in.....wow

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Tue, Mar 20, 2018 4:51 PM
posted by QuakerOats

Emerson Chairman and CEO and NAM Board Chair David Farr was interviewed on Jim Cramer’s ‘Mad Money’ show for CNBC (3/19) on Monday. Cramer called Emerson “a manufacturer’s manufacturer.” During the interview Farr said, “Clearly the tax plan helped us a lot, [and] the regulation plan.” US tax reform, Farr said, “is going to drive investment. We’ve had underinvestment in the US for too long.” He concluded, “Tax reform is good. Regulation reform is good,” and there is “huge investment going on in the United States.”

 

 

Just so refreshing to see the ship get righted; to think we were focusing on which bathroom we are supposed to pee in.....wow

Great. In the meantime, Trump spoke to Putin congratulating him on his "election" yet making no reference to the U.K. poisoning or even the ongoing efforts of Russian jacking with our cyber space and infrastructure. 

Really winning there.  What "Special Relationship" with the U.K? At least Trump mentioned Ukraine and Syria with Putin....

Spock

Senior Member

Tue, Mar 20, 2018 5:58 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Great. In the meantime, Trump spoke to Putin congratulating him on his "election" yet making no reference to the U.K. poisoning or even the ongoing efforts of Russian jacking with our cyber space and infrastructure. 

Really winning there.  What "Special Relationship" with the U.K? At least Trump mentioned Ukraine and Syria with Putin....

Not the time and place for that.

HOF on coattails

Junior Member

Tue, Mar 20, 2018 8:12 PM

Judge rules defamation case against Trump can proceed, "'No one is above the law" he said.

More winning!

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Tue, Mar 20, 2018 9:39 PM
posted by Spock

Not the time and place for that.

Probably not the time and place to congratulate a dictator for winning a sham election, too, but he didn't have any trouble doing that.

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Wed, Mar 21, 2018 7:01 AM
posted by Spock

Not the time and place for that.

Ah yeah, I guess you are right. I guess a private one on one phone call is not the right place then. I mean it's not like he was told not to tell him congrats and to actually talk about the U.K poisoning ....

 

"President Trump did not follow specific warnings from his national security advisers Tuesday when he congratulated Russian President Vladi­mir Putin on his reelection — including a section in his briefing materials in all-capital letters stating “DO NOT CONGRATULATE,” according to officials familiar with the call.

Trump also chose not to heed talking points from aides instructing him to condemn the recent poisoning of a former Russian spy in Britain with a powerful nerve agent, a case that both the British and U.S. governments have blamed on Moscow. "

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-national-security-advisers-warned-him-not-to-congratulate-putin-he-did-it-anyway/2018/03/20/22738ebc-2c68-11e8-8ad6-fbc50284fce8_story.html?utm_term=.035e8ca51ce6

Well fuck then. 

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Wed, Mar 21, 2018 7:07 AM

Did Obama not also congratulate Putin for winning an election? I agree it was stupid but don’t get the selective outrage.

 

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Wed, Mar 21, 2018 7:18 AM
posted by iclfan2

Did Obama not also congratulate Putin for winning an election? I agree it was stupid but don’t get the selective outrage.

 

I don't know.  What's it matter what Obama did? Trump is President now. That's like someone bringing up Bush when Obama was President. 

 

superman

Senior Member

Wed, Mar 21, 2018 7:20 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

I don't know.  What's it matter what Obama did? Trump is President now. That's like someone bringing up Bush when Obama was President. 

 

Irony is pretty thick here.

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Wed, Mar 21, 2018 7:23 AM
posted by superman

Irony is pretty thick here.

Just saying. A lot of people are throwing the "Well what did Obama do". I thought we were past all that a year and 2 months into the Trump Presidency. 

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Wed, Mar 21, 2018 7:24 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

I don't know.  What's it matter what Obama did? Trump is President now. That's like someone bringing up Bush when Obama was President. 

 

It doesn’t matter what Obama did, if you weren’t outraged then, I don’t give a shit about your outrage now. All but admitting you’re a partisan hack.

I wonder who didn’t do anything about Russia for the 8 years prior? 

And Britain should sack up and do something about it themselves

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Wed, Mar 21, 2018 7:37 AM
posted by iclfan2

It doesn’t matter what Obama did, if you weren’t outraged then, I don’t give a shit about your outrage now. All but admitting you’re a partisan hack.

I wonder who didn’t do anything about Russia for the 8 years prior? 

And Britain should sack up and do something about it themselves

This is the point ptown is completely missing.  I get that he is butt hurt that the right rolled their eyes to the  the "blame bush" talk 7 years into Obama's admin, but the whole point is are you being intellectually honest with yourself?  Based on ptown's posts I would have to say no and his cover up is to do a half ass QO impersonation.  

 

FWIW I don't see half as many people blaming Obama for Trump's failure as the Obama sheep did with Bush.  When someone blames Obama at this point, I cringe.  Also FWIW, the POTUS has congratulated Putin on his election wins since 2000.  Fake outrage is fake. This is why I have hard time taking anyone freaking out about Russia seriously when it was no big deal while Obama was in office (or in this particular case, Bush as well).  Everyone laughed at Romney during the debate when he brought up Russia and nobody seemed to care when Obama essentially told Putin he would have more flexibility if he won a 2nd term.  So far, that seems to be the closest thing to collusion with Russia in the last 10 years.   At the very least admit your are partisan.

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Wed, Mar 21, 2018 7:39 AM
posted by iclfan2

It doesn’t matter what Obama did, if you weren’t outraged then, I don’t give a shit about your outrage now. All but admitting you’re a partisan hack.

I wonder who didn’t do anything about Russia for the 8 years prior? 

And Britain should sack up and do something about it themselves

Whatever man, Trump is President now, not Obama. People on here were screaming that for 8 years whenever someone would blame Bush. Can't have it both ways. If things were so bad with Russia under Obama, Trump should fix it. Sounds like now, he is not doing a good job at all doing it.  

And yeah, fuck that whole special relationship thing with the U.K...we don't need them as an ally at all, right? 

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Wed, Mar 21, 2018 7:47 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Whatever man, Trump is President now, not Obama. People on here were screaming that for 8 years whenever someone would blame Bush. Can't have it both ways. If things were so bad with Russia under Obama, Trump should fix it. Sounds like now, he is not doing a good job at all doing it.  

And yeah, fuck that whole special relationship thing with the U.K...we don't need them as an ally at all, right? 

The point is still going over your head.  You're smarter than this.

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Wed, Mar 21, 2018 7:57 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Whatever man, Trump is President now, not Obama. People on here were screaming that for 8 years whenever someone would blame Bush. Can't have it both ways. If things were so bad with Russia under Obama, Trump should fix it. Sounds like now, he is not doing a good job at all doing it.  

And yeah, fuck that whole special relationship thing with the U.K...we don't need them as an ally at all, right? 

Lol so people DID blame Bush for 7 years? And I mentioned your outrage, not what Obama did. You’re being obtuse on purpose. Trump has also already done more to punish Russia so far, so I guess he’s on the right track from doing nothing? https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/donald-trump-russia-policy-tougher-than-obama/

ha but I do like your “well people on this sight rolled their eyes when Bush WAS blamed for 7 years (and ptown agreed with it), as for Trump fuck him he’s President now”. Your hypocrisy is noted. 

Spock

Senior Member

Wed, Mar 21, 2018 8:18 AM

ptowns world must be a terrible one to live.  THe vacuum he lives in must be kicking out talking points that are hard to keep straight.

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Wed, Mar 21, 2018 8:55 AM
posted by iclfan2

It doesn’t matter what Obama did, if you weren’t outraged then, I don’t give a shit about your outrage now. All but admitting you’re a partisan hack.

 

This is funny.  Pretty much everyone on here is a partisan hack. 

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Wed, Mar 21, 2018 9:07 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

This is funny.  Pretty much everyone on here is a partisan hack. 

Agreed. But if you're new here, Ptown used to pretend he was all high and mighty in his political opinion and "neutral"

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Wed, Mar 21, 2018 9:16 AM
posted by iclfan2

Agreed. But if you're new here, Ptown used to pretend he was all high and mighty in his political opinion and "neutral"

You're responding to a poster who also epitomizes this.