posted by gut

Maybe I wasn't paying very close attention, but I was pretty surprised to see Tillerson was fired.

Does he even have a single cabinet member left that's actually been there from the beginning (a whole whopping 14 months)?

I wasn't. He has been rumored to be on the chopping block since last summer and the moron comment. The way he did it caught me off guard. How Trump like to do it via Twitter. 

As for who is left, actually most of them are still there. Cabinet wise, only State, HHS, and DHS have actually changed. There is heat on the VA, EPA, and HUD, but they are still there. 

posted by friendfromlowry

I wish he’d fire Betsy DeVos

I caught her 60 min interview. It was....special.

posted by O-Trap

Do you hear how insane this sounds?  Government intervention screwed things up, so government intervention is the solution?

If deficit spending screws things up, then I suppose deficit spending is the solution?

Hell, if taxes get too high, we'll just have to implement more taxes to fix it.

If government intervention caused the problem, then REMOVING government intervention would be a solution.  Not adding or diversifying the intervention.

 

 

Good God.  It was government that inserted itself into the equation; only government can now extract itself.  We manufacturers cannot throw GAAT and NAFTA and all other asinine agreements into the trash can, only government can.  I view the tariffs as the initial, and necessary, step to begin that process.  Ultimately, government unwinds these horrific agreements to allow us to compete on a level playing field. 

I can't help you any further. 

posted by QuakerOats

Good God.  It was government that inserted itself into the equation; only government can now extract itself.  We manufacturers cannot throw GAAT and NAFTA and all other asinine agreements into the trash can, only government can.  I view the tariffs as the initial, and necessary, step to begin that process.  Ultimately, government unwinds these horrific agreements to allow us to compete on a level playing field. 

I can't help you any further. 

Good lord ...

So, you think ADDING a regulatory policy ON United States businesses is the first step to undoing government intervention in the market?

You're right.  You can't help me.  The blind leading anybody is a bad idea.

Take care; God bless.

posted by O-Trap

Good lord ...

So, you think ADDING a regulatory policy ON United States businesses is the first step to undoing government intervention in the market?

 

You're right.  You can't help me.  The blind leading anybody is a bad idea.

I applaud your effort to get him to go outside the box and say anything other than generic talking points, but I've become really sure that's an exercise in futility.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

As for who is left, actually most of them are still there. Cabinet wise, only State, HHS, and DHS have actually changed. There is heat on the VA, EPA, and HUD, but they are still there. 

Of course!  How could I forget about Ben "Big Decorator" Carson?

posted by Heretic

I applaud your effort to get him to go outside the box and say anything other than generic talking points, but I've become really sure that's an exercise in futility.

Call me an optimist.

This roundtable is disturbing on multiple levels.  Even Obama never campaigned so shamelessly.

Trump does a lot of amazingly stupid things, but this is jaw-dropping.

posted by gut

This roundtable is disturbing on multiple levels.  Even Obama never campaigned so shamelessly.

Trump does a lot of amazingly stupid things, but this is jaw-dropping.

Remember those people who were oozing with pure outrage at how Obama spent more time campaigning for president than he had spent as a Congressman?

My guess is that many of them will stay pretty quiet about this.

posted by O-Trap

Remember those people who were oozing with pure outrage at how Obama spent more time campaigning for president than he had spent as a Congressman?

My guess is that many of them will stay pretty quiet about this.

It was shamelessly indulgent.  Absolutely disgusting.

Same thing as thoes bipartisan hearings.  He opens it up, showing/promising transparency so how can Dems refuse?  But then it forces them to be respectful and defferent, because they'll disrespect him plenty in a soundbite but no one is doing that directly to the POTUS on camera.  It's kind of a brilliant move, but it's nothing more than optical bullshit.

posted by O-Trap

Remember those people who were oozing with pure outrage at how Obama spent more time campaigning for president than he had spent as a Congressman?

My guess is that many of them will stay pretty quiet about this.

At least President Trump is to busy governing instead of being on the golf course like Obama.

posted by ppaw1999

At least President Trump is to busy governing instead of being on the golf course like Obama.

too

posted by ppaw1999

At least President Trump is to busy governing instead of being on the golf course like Obama.

Trump’s on pace to play 2 times as much golf while in office compared to Obama. So you’re wrong there. This is especially funny considering how vocally he criticized Obama for playing and for claiming he “wouldn’t have time to play golf” while in office. 

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Trump’s on pace to play 2 times as much golf while in office compared to Obama. So you’re wrong there. This is especially funny considering how vocally he criticized Obama for playing and for claiming he “wouldn’t have time to play golf” while in office. 

When a libtard uses sarcasm and confuses another libtard.

posted by superman

When a libtard uses sarcasm and confuses another libtard.

I consider myself an independent but I am glad that you caught my poor attempt at sarcasm.

reps

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Trump’s on pace to play 2 times as much golf while in office compared to Obama. So you’re wrong there. This is especially funny considering how vocally he criticized Obama for playing and for claiming he “wouldn’t have time to play golf” while in office. 

Seriously? lol

No liberal should complain about him playing golf.....if he is doing that then he is not unraveling 8 years of liberal policy.....

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-15/1-000-cuts-to-dodd-frank-senate-bill-part-of-deregulation-wave

And another significant win.............

posted by gut

It was shamelessly indulgent.  Absolutely disgusting.

Same thing as thoes bipartisan hearings.  He opens it up, showing/promising transparency so how can Dems refuse?  But then it forces them to be respectful and defferent, because they'll disrespect him plenty in a soundbite but no one is doing that directly to the POTUS on camera.  It's kind of a brilliant move, but it's nothing more than optical bullshit.

At this point, isn't most of what goes on in front of the cameras just optics chess?

posted by ppaw1999

At least President Trump is to busy governing instead of being on the golf course like Obama.

XD

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Trump’s on pace to play 2 times as much golf while in office compared to Obama. So you’re wrong there. This is especially funny considering how vocally he criticized Obama for playing and for claiming he “wouldn’t have time to play golf” while in office. 

Dude ...

posted by QuakerOats

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-15/1-000-cuts-to-dodd-frank-senate-bill-part-of-deregulation-wave

 

 

And another significant win.............

Regulating banks differently depending on their size.

Ah, yes.  Anti-capitalist policy strikes again ...

posted by O-Trap

Regulating banks differently depending on their size.

Ah, yes.  Anti-capitalist policy strikes again ...

I might make the argument that size does matter.  Non-publicly traded companies don't have SEC regulations and a host of other things.

Easing regulations on smaller banks makes a lot of sense, though the risk of more mortgage fraud is something to consider.  But your bulge bracket investment banks with huge proprietary trading desks are completely different animals from you S&L's and regional/local banks.

posted by gut

I might make the argument that size does matter.  Non-publicly traded companies don't have SEC regulations and a host of other things.

Easing regulations on smaller banks makes a lot of sense, though the risk of more mortgage fraud is something to consider.  But your bulge bracket investment banks with huge proprietary trading desks are completely different animals from you S&L's and regional/local banks.

Naturally, one could certainly make the case that some banks aren't really "banks" in the sense that we generally think of one, and if THAT was the gauge, I could see a case made.  By size alone, though, would seem to treat two businesses which are functionally the same (at the very least on paper) as though they aren't.

In effect, it smacks of typical federal meddling in private commerce, which causes as many problems as it solves, despite the intentions (which, in fairness, are usually able to be seen as good).

posted by O-Trap

At this point, isn't most of what goes on in front of the cameras just optics chess?

 

posted by ppaw1999

At least President Trump is to busy governing instead of being on the golf course like Obama.

 

XD

 

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Trump’s on pace to play 2 times as much golf while in office compared to Obama. So you’re wrong there. This is especially funny considering how vocally he criticized Obama for playing and for claiming he “wouldn’t have time to play golf” while in office. 

 

Dude ...

 

posted by QuakerOats

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-15/1-000-cuts-to-dodd-frank-senate-bill-part-of-deregulation-wave

 

 

And another significant win.............

Regulating banks differently depending on their size.

Ah, yes.  Anti-capitalist policy strikes again ...

 

Again, government caused the problems.  Getting off the ass of community banks now is not only proper, it will create more options for consumers in a much more competitive environment.  The one-size-fits-all mandates from Washington DC are largely responsible for most of the problems this country faces. 

posted by QuakerOats

Again, government caused the problems.  Getting off the ass of community banks now is not only proper, it will create more options for consumers in a much more competitive environment.  The one-size-fits-all mandates from Washington DC are largely responsible for most of the problems this country faces. 

Are you suggesting that equal laws for all like businesses is a problem?

Don't get me wrong.  I agree that there is too much regulation, and the answer is deregulation, but putting like businesses into "tiers" and regulating them differently isn't unlike the tiered tax brackets for citizens or the social welfare programs granted to those with lower incomes.  The principle is the same.

The notion that laws for particular businesses are "one-size-fits-all" is simply equality under the law.  Likes being treated as likes.

If you think money center banks are similar to community banks, well, I don't know what to say.