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I see how Trump’s chief of staff has said Trump was uninformed when he made statements on the border wall and immigration during his campaign. Well no shit. When’s Mexico’s wall bill coming due?
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posted by Spock
BTW.....the Demz want the government shut down. Tget can't slow down this economy. Its their only chance. Businesses, stocks, paychecks, jobs, low taxes....... The dems are sinking.
Are you implying that a shutdown would slow down the economy? Doubtful.
I don't think either side wants a shutdown, but it is becomming pretty apparent that the dems truly don't want a DACA deal done. It's much better to run on it and win seats. It's pretty much their version of the GOP telling us they would repeal obamacare. This is where I come in with my broken record to tell you all that both parties are full of shit. The sooner everyone realizes this; the better.
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It's good to see we have overcome all the dysfunction of government since the last shutdown in 2013....
I think there will be a short term CR to kick the can another month, but I have no faith in it because no one is sure what Trump will do. Also, while some D's and R's are actually trying to make a deal, others are just playing to their base and probably want a shutdown.
So far, Trump is sucking just as much as Obama, maybe even more, on trying to make Government function.
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Well, I just know my friends at NIH, HHS, DHS, and NOAA would be furloughed and won't be able to finish their research and projects. I was talking with them last night at a happy hour and we were discussing how their projects and research would be impacted.
They will also still get their pay eventually in backpay. So, sure let's just shut it down and see what happens.
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Well, I just know my friends at NIH, HHS, DHS, and NOAA would be furloughed and won't be able to finish their research and projects. I was talking with them last night at a happy hour.
They will also still get their pay eventually in backpay. So, sure let's just shut it down and see what happens.
Cool story dude, you have friends in the DC area.
I can't see a scenario where either party would be dumb enough to not back pay these people. This happened the last two shut downs. The real furlough happened before the 2013 shut down and people actually lost a chunk of their paycheck every pay period.
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posted by ptown_trojans_1
It's good to see we have overcome all the dysfunction of government since the last shutdown in 2013....
I think there will be a short term CR to kick the can another month, but I have no faith in it because no one is sure what Trump will do. Also, while some D's and R's are actually trying to make a deal, others are just playing to their base and probably want a shutdown.
So far, Trump is sucking just as much as Obama, maybe even more, on trying to make Government function.
We will most likely see another CR. I don't see the issue with DACA amnesty and border security. It's not a ridiculous request from the GOP. It's a bipartisan deal and a fair compromise. This is how our government is supposed to work. As I said earlier, I don't think the dems truly want to resolve anything regarding DACA, because they know they can use it to churn out votes (i.e. GOP with repealing obamacare).
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Cool story dude, you have friends in the DC area.
I can't see a scenario where either party would be dumb enough to not back pay these people. This happened the last two shut downs. The real furlough happened before the 2013 shut down and people actually lost a chunk of their paycheck every pay period.
Yeah, so do you. I was expecting you to chime in.
I'd agree they will be paid back. So, this whole discussion is just so fucking dumb. A shutdown is the least effective way to operate the Government.
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posted by QuakerOats
Blowing up government is the first step in fixing it.
Timothy McVeigh already tried that.
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Which republican(s) is the one responsible for the looming shutdown? It shouldn't be difficult to pass a short term CR with the majority.