posted by O-TrapAlso, where's this anti-Kavanaugh campaign that Soros is carrying out?
His groups paid protestors to disrupt the hearings ….post-and forfeit cash, and I am sure it doesn’t end there.
posted by QuakerOatsHis groups paid protestors to disrupt the hearings ….post-and forfeit cash, and I am sure it doesn’t end there.
No, I know that claim. I meant where's the evidence of it?
Surely you'd agree that there are plenty of liberals who would do it for free if lightly prompted.
They readily admitted it.
That's pretty strong evidence. Where did they admit it?
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/26/politics/julie-swetnick-allegation-kavanaugh/index.html
So, new accusation - actually submitted in an affidavit to Senate - that Kavanaugh in high school "drank excessively, grinded on girls and attempted to lift their clothing to expose body parts....and was abusive and aggressive toward girls".
It SOUNDS awful, but somewhere between context and hyperbole is a typical high school boy. Does rude and obnoxious behavior in high school disqualify someone from SCOTUS 35 years later?
posted by guthttps://www.cnn.com/2018/09/26/politics/julie-swetnick-allegation-kavanaugh/index.html
So, new accusation - actually submitted in an affidavit to Senate - that Kavanaugh in high school "drank excessively, grinded on girls and attempted to lift their clothing to expose body parts....and was abusive and aggressive toward girls".
It SOUNDS awful, but somewhere between context and hyperbole is a typical high school boy. Does rude and obnoxious behavior in high school disqualify someone from SCOTUS 35 years later?
Those don't sound awful, sounds like high school. What sounds awful is she supposedly said there were gang rapes all the time and Kavanaugh was part of drugging them and part of the gang rapes.
So vetted by the FBI 6 times, and a 15 year old running a gang rape ring never came up? And this lady searched out Avenetti as her lawyer. GET THE FUCK OUT
posted by guthttps://www.cnn.com/2018/09/26/politics/julie-swetnick-allegation-kavanaugh/index.html
So, new accusation - actually submitted in an affidavit to Senate - that Kavanaugh in high school "drank excessively, grinded on girls and attempted to lift their clothing to expose body parts....and was abusive and aggressive toward girls".
It SOUNDS awful, but somewhere between context and hyperbole is a typical high school boy. Does rude and obnoxious behavior in high school disqualify someone from SCOTUS 35 years later?
This sounds like the sort of thing that would have happened as a minor. Honestly, I think that's at least as relevant as the time gap of 35 years.
If we were talking about a nominee who was 60-65, and the accusations were from 35 years ago, I'd have a much bigger problem with the nominee, because those wouldn't be the actions of an adolescent, but the actions of an adult.
There's a reason we don't try youths as adults in court. The reason we don't would be sufficient reason for me to think this isn't relevant to whether or not he's fit today.
Might this be grounds for acknowledging an underlying problem with how male youths are allowed or encouraged to behave? Perhaps. I had friends that got away with similar behavior in high school, and looking back, it could certainly be seen a a problematic foundation for how they saw their female counterparts at the time.
Does it necessarily have long-term implications for those boys as they grew into adults? Not necessarily. So, I don't see how anyone could, in good faith, use the actions of a person as a teenager to challenge their character as an adult. There are too many cases in which a person's character changed too drastically after adolescence for us to be able to draw anything meaningful from it.
The CNN article didn't mention the gang thing....But this woman is 3+ years older than Kavanaugh, so 2-3 years ahead of him which begs the question what she's doing at high school parties with a bunch of known rapists?
This is just a fucking clown show.
Every time I start to think the democrat party can’t possibly get more batshit insane, they prove me wrong.
posted by O-TrapThat's pretty strong evidence. Where did they admit it?
Your research capabilities are admirable; I know these facts will not escape your reach.
posted by guthttps://www.cnn.com/2018/09/26/politics/julie-swetnick-allegation-kavanaugh/index.html
So, new accusation - actually submitted in an affidavit to Senate - that Kavanaugh in high school "drank excessively, grinded on girls and attempted to lift their clothing to expose body parts....and was abusive and aggressive toward girls".
It SOUNDS awful, but somewhere between context and hyperbole is a typical high school boy. Does rude and obnoxious behavior in high school disqualify someone from SCOTUS 35 years later?
Her statement says she attended at least 10 such parties. So girls are being drugged and gang raped, and you go to at least 10 such events --- WTF
Ford's legal team finally has submitted her lie detector results to the committee, but refuses to submit the therapists notes. Yes, the same notes they quickly gave to the WAPO. What are vegas odds right now that Ford testifies tomorrow?
Gonna be a complete shitstorm when the Repubs approve Kavanaugh next week.
Can't wait!
posted by QuakerOats
Your research capabilities are admirable; I know these facts will not escape your reach.
The burden of proof falls on the one making the affirmative claim. It is not up to me to prove your claim.
In good faith, I did a cursory search. Tom, Dick, and Harry all have blogs or personal, unvetted sites that say as much (they also say Obama is the antichrist from time to time).
Unfortunately, that's hardly credible.
posted by O-TrapThe burden of proof falls on the one making the affirmative claim. It is not up to me to prove your claim.
Ironic, given this whole other situation.
posted by gutGonna be a complete shitstorm when the Repubs approve Kavanaugh next week.
Can't wait!
I'm ready.
Lol now the lie detector results came out and it's a joke. 2 questions, none of which are specific, and her handwritten statement from it has multiple edits. I too would like to see if there are any odds of her showing up or not.
posted by iclfan2Ironic, given this whole other situation.
Why?
posted by O-TrapWhy?
Because the left and the whacko media are acting the complete opposite in this situation, and that the accuser has no responsibility to bring forth any evidence. And that the accused should be able to prove a negative. Maybe Ironic wasn't the right word.
posted by iclfan2Because the left and the whacko media are acting the complete opposite in this situation, and that the accuser has no responsibility to bring forth any evidence. And that the accused should be able to prove a negative. Maybe Ironic wasn't the right word.
That's fair. Yeah, that's definitely how it's playing out. Both sides seemed to show their hypocrisy in this one. The Louies were ready to tar and feather Kavanaugh at the mere mention of an accusation. The Pubs were dismissing the accusation as soon as it came out, regardless of what evidence there might or might not have been.
American Politics: Welcome to the Freak Show
posted by gutThe CNN article didn't mention the gang thing....But this woman is 3+ years older than Kavanaugh, so 2-3 years ahead of him which begs the question what she's doing at high school parties with a bunch of known rapists?
this made me lol.
posted by O-TrapThis sounds like the sort of thing that would have happened as a minor. Honestly, I think that's at least as relevant as the time gap of 35 years.
If we were talking about a nominee who was 60-65, and the accusations were from 35 years ago, I'd have a much bigger problem with the nominee, because those wouldn't be the actions of an adolescent, but the actions of an adult.
There's a reason we don't try youths as adults in court. The reason we don't would be sufficient reason for me to think this isn't relevant to whether or not he's fit today.
Might this be grounds for acknowledging an underlying problem with how male youths are allowed or encouraged to behave? Perhaps. I had friends that got away with similar behavior in high school, and looking back, it could certainly be seen a a problematic foundation for how they saw their female counterparts at the time.
Does it necessarily have long-term implications for those boys as they grew into adults? Not necessarily. So, I don't see how anyone could, in good faith, use the actions of a person as a teenager to challenge their character as an adult. There are too many cases in which a person's character changed too drastically after adolescence for us to be able to draw anything meaningful from it.
Kids get charged as adults all the time.
posted by O-TrapThe burden of proof falls on the one making the affirmative claim. It is not up to me to prove your claim.
In good faith, I did a cursory search. Tom, Dick, and Harry all have blogs or personal, unvetted sites that say as much (they also say Obama is the antichrist from time to time).
Unfortunately, that's hardly credible.
He rarely lets facts get in the way of the trump narratives
posted by geeblockHe rarely lets facts get in the way of the trump narratives
I kindly refer you to the ‘Impressed by Trump Administration part II’ thread, wherein you will find a plethora of facts and related links concerning the economy and business activity occurring since the Trump election.
Dispute up.
posted by O-TrapThe burden of proof falls on the one making the affirmative claim. It is not up to me to prove your claim.
In good faith, I did a cursory search. Tom, Dick, and Harry all have blogs or personal, unvetted sites that say as much (they also say Obama is the antichrist from time to time).
Unfortunately, that's hardly credible.
Need not hang out on third rate websites for insight.