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Heretic

Son of the Sun

Fri, Jul 19, 2019 11:47 AM
posted by O-Trap

I really don't think it's that fine a line.  I have nothing against a person for being Korean, even if I vehemently oppose the US having a close relationship to it and might suspect its government of dirty dealings.

The Semitic people predate Israel by millennia.  I really don't have a hard time seeing how one can oppose Israel in a general sense without opposing Jewish people at all.

Anti-semite is to conservatives what racism (or similar terms) is to liberals -- a word thrown out at the first sign of criticism of Israel (for cons) or minorities (libs) because it's easier to use a negative-connotation word to immediately paint one as a bad person than it is to actually debate the points they were trying to make. Bonus points for how members of both sides feel 100% justified in their use of those words, while at the same time blasting the other side for it.

gut

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 19, 2019 12:50 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

It seems like it's okay to hate Russia and Putin, etc., but no one assumes you hate all Russian people in the world.  Same with China, hell even North Korea.  But with Israel, it is hands off to criticize if you don't want to be labeled an anti-Semite. 

Communist (and whatever Russia is now) enemies of the state vs. a Democratic ally. 

So, like, totally apples-to-apples.

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Fri, Jul 19, 2019 12:50 PM

Anti-semite = Racist in my book. I also think that the right and the left partake equally.

 

jmog

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 19, 2019 1:30 PM
posted by geeblock

Seems like we are holding a congresswoman to a higher standard for comments than the president. He can say whatever and it’s like well he didn’t really mean that or that’s just how he talks or something along those lines. There is always a BUT something when it comes to the president. 

No, he's a dipshit, we aren't giving him a pass at all. 

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Fri, Jul 19, 2019 1:58 PM
posted by queencitybuckeye

The number one reason that someone would hate Israel is so far ahead of whatever comes second, it's an extremely weak argument, IMO. My apologies to the 0.000000012% of people who hate Israel but not Jews.

This seems silly.  I don't believe in treating the nation of Israel as any special kind of ally.  Nor, frankly, do I see the justification for taking land from one group of people and handing it to another without the former's consent, which is what caused a lot of the modern conflict.

In that way, I could be said to not like Israel.  Of course, it wasn't my land, or my people's land, that was taken, so it would be silly of me to actually get angry at the idea of Israel as a nation, but were it my land, I could see it maybe.  Doesn't mean I'd hate an ethnic people group, particularly when there are potentially more in the US than there are in Israel, not to speak of the rest of the world.

In the same way, I could hate Burma/Myanmar for the treatment of its Karen population while still not hating Burmese or Buddhist people.
 

posted by gut

But it seems odd that the same people against Israel are FOR reparations....

To me, the converse also makes little sense, too.

Spock

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 19, 2019 2:30 PM

50 years ago:

Pubs were anti-semites and Dems were racists.

 

 

Spock

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 19, 2019 2:39 PM
posted by geeblock

Here we go 

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/tonydokoupil/status/708759387909677056

https://www.10tv.com/article/gas-station-clerk-fired-telling-customers-go-back-their-country-2019-jul

 

LULLDLZZZZ on the first one.  The left thinks that EVERY that voted for Trump is that guy.

 

Now the 2nd one is BS, you dont know what the context of that video is.  My guess is that those 2 were trying to buy something that required an ID and they were illegal immigrants that didnt have one and he would sell it to them.  Does he have a right to tell them that they are breaking our laws....sure he does.  

Spock

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 19, 2019 2:40 PM
posted by Fab4Runner

I'm shocked that the guy in the first video is wearing a Chief Wahoo hat. 

All Indian fans must be like him then huh?

Fab4Runner

Tits McGee

Fri, Jul 19, 2019 2:54 PM
posted by Spock

All Indian fans must be like him then huh?

 

geeblock

Member

Fri, Jul 19, 2019 2:55 PM
posted by Spock

LULLDLZZZZ on the first one.  The left thinks that EVERY that voted for Trump is that guy.

 

Now the 2nd one is BS, you dont know what the context of that video is.  My guess is that those 2 were trying to buy something that required an ID and they were illegal immigrants that didnt have one and he would sell it to them.  Does he have a right to tell them that they are breaking our laws....sure he does.  

You think illegal aliens would post their own video illegally trying to buy something? That doesn’t make sense but either way it really doesn’t matter 

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Fri, Jul 19, 2019 2:55 PM
posted by Spock

Now the 2nd one is BS, you dont know what the context of that video is.  My guess is that those 2 were trying to buy something that required an ID and they were illegal immigrants that didnt have one and he would sell it to them.  Does he have a right to tell them that they are breaking our laws....sure he does.  

You do realize that you called his posting of the video bullshit because he doesn't know the context of the video ... and then you made up a context completely out of thin air to justify the counter clerk's position.

Does he have a right to tell them that they're breaking "our" laws?  If they didn't say they were illegal, he doesn't have the grounds to.  Whether or not he has the right to, he has the right to say a lot of things.  Doesn't mean he has the rational ability.
 

posted by Spock

All Indian fans must be like him then huh?

lol  What?
 

 

Spock

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 19, 2019 2:56 PM
posted by geeblock

You think illegal aliens would post their own video illegally trying to buy something? That doesn’t make sense but either way it really doesn’t matter 

Sure they would.  They are betting on the Dems to make their illegal activities legal

jmog

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 19, 2019 3:42 PM
posted by Spock

LULLDLZZZZ on the first one.  The left thinks that EVERY that voted for Trump is that guy.

 

Now the 2nd one is BS, you dont know what the context of that video is.  My guess is that those 2 were trying to buy something that required an ID and they were illegal immigrants that didnt have one and he would sell it to them.  Does he have a right to tell them that they are breaking our laws....sure he does.  

Sometimes I think people can't post anything more stupid...and then I read something like this...

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Fri, Jul 19, 2019 3:48 PM
posted by Spock

LULLDLZZZZ on the first one.  The left thinks that EVERY that voted for Trump is that guy.

 

Now the 2nd one is BS, you dont know what the context of that video is.  My guess is that those 2 were trying to buy something that required an ID and they were illegal immigrants that didnt have one and he would sell it to them.  Does he have a right to tell them that they are breaking our laws....sure he does.  

If the left REALLY wanted to be over-the-top assholes about their Trump Voter Stereotyping, they could think that everyone who voted for Trump was like you.

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 19, 2019 3:53 PM
posted by jmog

No, he's a dipshit, we aren't giving him a pass at all. 

 

Well, when you are pro-American, and pro-growth, and have done so much that has helped all citizens across all spectrums, then yes, you can get a few passes from time to time.

geeblock

Member

Fri, Jul 19, 2019 7:46 PM

Some people in Sweden were messing with ASAP rocky as he and his crew were walking down the street basically he got attacked and fought back. He gets arrested and apparently they have some law where they can hold u for 3 weeks without charge and without right to lawyers I guess. U can look it up in Twitter and judge for yourself. Trump said today he would intervene for Kanye’s friend. You really don’t have to be “woke” jacksass 

geeblock

Member

Fri, Jul 19, 2019 7:58 PM

ASAP rocky is a New York rapper who used to date Kendall Jenner 

Spock

Senior Member

Fri, Jul 19, 2019 8:33 PM

At the end of the day....people like Geeblock arent voting for trump no matter what.  Trump could pass out $1000 bills and they still arent voting for him.

geeblock

Member

Fri, Jul 19, 2019 8:40 PM
posted by Spock

At the end of the day....people like Geeblock arent voting for trump no matter what.  Trump could pass out $1000 bills and they still arent voting for him.

Please define people like gblock. For 1000 I would vote for your mom 

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Fri, Jul 19, 2019 9:22 PM
posted by geeblock

Please define people like gblock. For 1000 I would vote for your mom