posted by geeblock

Isn’t anti anti-Semite the same thing as pro Israel?

Ha yea I meant anti- anti-Semite. And no, that doesn’t mean pro-Israel. It just means not a Jew hater. 

posted by geeblock

Personally I have great healthcare but I’m tired of seeing all my timelines filled everyday with our real insurance plan in this country. Go fund me. 

Individuals giving of their own free will to help their fellow man in need, sucks to see that kind of shit.  I'd rather see the government by force of law confiscate my funds and employ minders to decide on my behalf who should benefit from my funds.  

Is this true?

posted by geeblock

https://mobile.twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1151617742874841088

I’ve never heard this but the president of the us shouldn’t be saying this 

I actually saw this he was specifically asked a question by the press on the matter.  This is an example of the press pushing buttons to create news.  

posted by geeblock

Very pro-Israel crowd lol 

https://mobile.twitter.com/jordanuhl/status/1151640610367070208

 

I will grant you that the chant is fucked up. She might suck and be horrible, but messed up.

posted by iclfan2

Or anti terrorist sympathizer/ anti-semite. You cling on some conspiracies

Umm ... Anti-Semite?  As in anti-Jew?
 

posted by geeblock

Isn’t anti anti-Semite the same thing as pro Israel?

No.  They're opposites.  The "Semitic" people are ethnically Jewish.  As such, if one is "anti-" Semitic, they are against Jews, which would ... if we reach a little bit, be anti-Israel, and not pro-Israel.

But anti-Semitism generally doesn't have as much to do with the actual nation state of Israel as it does people who are ethnically Jewish, which means it's more personal than geopolitical.
 

From what I understand Rand Paul asked that the funds for the first responders be paid for by taking equal amounts from somewhere else. 

posted by O-Trap

Umm ... Anti-Semite?  As in anti-Jew?
 

posted by geeblock

Isn’t anti anti-Semite the same thing as pro Israel?

No.  They're opposites.  The "Semitic" people are ethnically Jewish.  As such, if one is "anti-" Semitic, they are against Jews, which would ... if we reach a little bit, be anti-Israel, and not pro-Israel.

But anti-Semitism generally doesn't have as much to do with the actual nation state of Israel as it does people who are ethnically Jewish, which means it's more personal than geopolitical.
 

 

Thanks for the clarification. I know the people in the south have a long history of sticking up for Jewish people 

posted by geeblock

Thanks for the clarification. I know the people in the south have a long history of sticking up for Jewish people 

I'm not sure about that. I think it's generally a mix of liberals and conservatives who stand against anti-semitism. It's when you go further from the center on both sides is where it starts to play out.

posted by geeblock

Is this true?

Yup and I will defend Rand and Lee.  They are one of the very few principled politicians we have.  He has been trying to bring attention to our increasing national debt since he has been in office and nobody seems to GAF.  If they are blocking this vote, they are doing it for a reason.   This tweet by some random guy implying Rand/Lee hate America and Illhan doesn't is a joke at best. 

posted by like_that

Yup and I will defend Rand and Lee.  They are one of the very few principled politicians we have.  He has been trying to bring attention to our increasing national debt since he has been in office and nobody seems to GAF.  If they are blocking this vote, they are doing it for a reason.   This tweet by some random guy implying Rand/Lee hate America and Illhan doesn't is a joke at best. 

If that is the case, the Paul and Lee should vote against every single budget measure. 

Not approving the federal funds for 9/11 responders is a fucking shame in my view. Even if you are a fiscal conservative, this is one of the things the federal government should step up to the plate and actually do. I equate this to basically funding troops healthcare in the VA. 

posted by geeblock

Thanks for the clarification. I know the people in the south have a long history of sticking up for Jewish people 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

If that is the case, the Paul and Lee should vote against every single budget measure. 

Not approving the federal funds for 9/11 responders is a fucking shame in my view. Even if you are a fiscal conservative, this is one of the things the federal government should step up to the plate and actually do. I equate this to basically funding troops healthcare in the VA. 

They should vote against every single budget measure, yes.

posted by geeblock

Personally I have great healthcare but I’m tired of seeing all my timelines filled everyday with our real insurance plan in this country. Go fund me. Everyone is going to get sick at some point. You shouldn’t lose everything you work for your whole life. 

1. How does this translate into some moral right to take from me against my will and allow others to decide who benefits from my productivity?

2. Why is theft preferable to you rather than voluntary generosity? I love when someone receives thousands of dollars to help fix a situation not of their making.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

If that is the case, the Paul and Lee should vote against every single budget measure. 

Not approving the federal funds for 9/11 responders is a fucking shame in my view. Even if you are a fiscal conservative, this is one of the things the federal government should step up to the plate and actually do. I equate this to basically funding troops healthcare in the VA. 

Was that funding a clean resolution?  If so then its a shame.  Since Nancy said she isnt passing anything clean then voting it down because someone threw in a bunch of pork BS for their districts or money for funding planned parenthood or something like that then vote no on it.  The media should do their job and explain why people voted no

posted by geeblock

I’ll agree he hasn’t messed it up and things have stayed on the same line they were on 3 years ago. I’m happy for it. I’m not rooting for our country to fail.

Ah, the old "Obama did it" routine. We know that you guys liked to blame Bush for everything during the 8 years of Obama and now are giving credit for everything good under Trump to Obama.

How long does Obama get credit? The whole 8 years under Trump?

posted by jmog

[...] you guys liked to blame Bush for everything during the 8 years of Obama [...]

Do you know that this is true specifically of geeblock?

I was thinking about how much credit people get for being president after they leave.  Obama was president for 1/5th of my life.  THat is alot.  In that time, he didnt do anything that affected me in a positive way.  He actually stunted my career income, my family completely lost part of our health insurance and my retirement is just now getting back.

8 years to do something and didnt do shit.  Trump reversed and made up for 8 years in 2 years.  

posted by ptown_trojans_1

If that is the case, the Paul and Lee should vote against every single budget measure. 

Not approving the federal funds for 9/11 responders is a fucking shame in my view. Even if you are a fiscal conservative, this is one of the things the federal government should step up to the plate and actually do. I equate this to basically funding troops healthcare in the VA. 

I'm pushing back on this a little bit.

Why couldn't the others say something like "ok, we just won't fund some university from studying two earthworms fucking for a year to fund this" ?

Overly simplistic yes. But the general idea is easy enough.

posted by CenterBHSFan

I'm pushing back on this a little bit.

Why couldn't the others say something like "ok, we just won't fund some university from studying two earthworms fucking for a year to fund this" ?

I think the point is "not the hill to die on".

But I also think that Paul and Lee have pushed back plenty on budget measures and not just this one.  Typical politicized media to cherry-pick to create a story.

posted by O-Trap

They should vote against every single budget measure, yes.

lol, you beat me to it.

posted by jmog

Ah, the old "Obama did it" routine. We know that you guys liked to blame Bush for everything during the 8 years of Obama and now are giving credit for everything good under Trump to Obama.

 

How long does Obama get credit? The whole 8 years under Trump?

A simple look at the hard data shows a steady line of improvement in all areas last time I looked. I haven’t seen anything major he’s done or drastic jumps in any areas creating major shifts. He mostly golfs, attends campaign rallies, watches tv and is on Twitter for the most part. He did give corporations a major tax break, but I don’t see manufacturing jobs ever coming back to the us when they can pay people 1$ an hour in another country. He has cut a lot of regulations which is never a bad thing usually. I don’t know how long Obama gets credit but I feel comfortable now saying things are staying right on track with where they were headed. The economy isn’t my strong area and I haven’t looked at the data in a while so it’s possible I’m incorrect. If he gets re-elected and we keep this up I will give him the credit. If he actually did something with healthcare I would be more inclined to say he had a good presidency. For the most part he seems to have spent his political capital undoing Obama legislation just to say I told you so 

posted by geeblock

..... I don’t know how long Obama gets credit but I feel comfortable now saying things are staying right on track with where they were headed.

By that logic, shouldn't W get all the credit then?  Because the recession ended 6 months after Obama took office, with almost all the groundwork laid for a recovery before Bush left the White House.

Despite trying with his socialist agenda, Obama couldn't help but be a beneficiary coming into office at basically the trough of the worst recession in 70+ years.  It would have been extremely difficult, and surprising, to have a weaker recovery than we saw under Obama.

If Trump owes anything to "Obama's economy", it's that growth has been boosted by the ending of anti-growth policies under Obama, that Trump is picking up some surplus left on the table by Obama's subpar recovery.

I really wast trying to give anyone “credit” I said he inherited a strong economy which he did and he hasn’t messed it up which he hasn’t. And that I’m happy about it. I just did about 15 quick minutes of google and that appears accurate?

posted by geeblock

I really wast trying to give anyone “credit” I said he inherited a strong economy which he did and he hasn’t messed it up which he hasn’t. And that I’m happy about it. I just did about 15 quick minutes of google and that appears accurate?

You literally said " I don’t know how long Obama gets credit."