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SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 7:42 PM
posted by gut

Again, if you've been around someone who had dementia there's a clear difference between gaffes and getting tongue-tied and declining mental accuity.  Some also become mean, which is something new we've seen from Biden (whereas Trump is the same asshole he's always been) several times now.  There's also the blank stare I've seen several times with Biden where it's like a literal brain freeze.

Trump's not winning any IQ contests, but it's not just right-wingers seeing evidence of mental decline in Biden.

Blah blah blah. I stand by what I said—those giving Biden shit for saying dumb shit completely ignore that Trump says equally dumb shit. Call it dementia, intelligence levels, whatever you want—but they’re both morons  

Also, I spend a lot of time around people with dementia, both within my family and clients at work. 


jmog

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 7:44 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Wait, which guy is senile?

The President says the “1917 pandemic” ended the Second World War https://t.co/jSltuSYim2

I hope you aren’t equating messing up WW2 for WW1 off the cuff for some of the babbles crap the last few months. If you are then you are grasping at straws here.


jmog

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 7:46 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Blah blah blah. I stand by what I said—those giving Biden shit for saying dumb shit completely ignore that Trump says equally dumb shit. Call it dementia, intelligence levels, whatever you want—but they’re both morons  

Also, I spend a lot of time around people with dementia, both within my family and clients at work. 


Saying something dumb, which Trump did above, is different than completely bumbling over what you are trying to say, going off into complete blank stares, etc.


If you truly do work around dementia patients and were being intellectually honest with yourself, you would see the difference.


ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 8:05 PM
posted by jmog

I hope you aren’t equating messing up WW2 for WW1 off the cuff for some of the babbles crap the last few months. If you are then you are grasping at straws here.


Maybe...because Trump does this on a daily basis. I also don't think Trump is on the mental decline. 

I also don't focus on the Biden mental health stuff. I know you have your personal stories and observations. 

Good for you and that is your view. But, I am not one to make a medical judgment about someone when I am not a medical doctor, nor know their own medical history. It seems a stretch. Gaffes are one thing, thinking he has a mental decline is a whole different matter. 

I'll go off of his statements and speeches, which seems hit and miss I will admit. But, so has Trump’s. 

I'm also of the view most voters either don't care or do not think it matters.

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 10, 2020 8:06 PM
posted by jmog

Saying something dumb, which Trump did above, is different than completely bumbling over what you are trying to say, going off into complete blank stares, etc.


If you truly do work around dementia patients and were being intellectually honest with yourself, you would see the difference.


Lol however you wanna spin it fella


like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Tue, Aug 11, 2020 6:14 AM

So, are we establishing that Biden acts Trumpish?

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Tue, Aug 11, 2020 7:37 AM
posted by like_that

So, are we establishing that Biden acts Trumpish?

They both suck. 


SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Tue, Aug 11, 2020 7:46 AM
posted by friendfromlowry

They both suck. 


Yup


ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Tue, Aug 11, 2020 7:49 AM
posted by like_that

So, are we establishing that Biden acts Trumpish?

They both are horrible public speakers and make gaffes all the time...so yeah. 

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Tue, Aug 11, 2020 4:54 PM

Kamala Harris is Biden’s VP pick

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Tue, Aug 11, 2020 5:14 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Blah blah blah. I stand by what I said—those giving Biden shit for saying dumb shit completely ignore that Trump says equally dumb shit. Call it dementia, intelligence levels, whatever you want—but they’re both morons  

Also, I spend a lot of time around people with dementia, both within my family and clients at work. 


BS.  Biden not only says dumb, RACIST, shit all the time, he is also suffering from the onset of dementia.  He is totally incapable of handling the job.

Spock

Senior Member

Tue, Aug 11, 2020 5:15 PM

Well you know that Biden had nothing to do with that pick.  


Something will happen at the DNC where she moves in to lead the ticket

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Tue, Aug 11, 2020 5:15 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Wait, which guy is senile?

The President says the “1917 pandemic” ended the Second World War https://t.co/jSltuSYim2


Easy misstatement ...........get in the game

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Tue, Aug 11, 2020 5:16 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Kamala Harris is Biden’s VP pick

BFD

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Tue, Aug 11, 2020 5:26 PM
posted by QuakerOats

BFD

Lol, are you afraid?


jmog

Senior Member

Tue, Aug 11, 2020 5:30 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Kamala Harris is Biden’s replacement when he becomes unfit

Fixed your post for you.


ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Tue, Aug 11, 2020 7:15 PM
posted by Spock

Well you know that Biden had nothing to do with that pick.  


Something will happen at the DNC where she moves in to lead the ticket

Well as the convention is this week, I highly doubt that happens. 

Biden is not dropping out conspiracy heads. It is too late in the game for that to get a replacement on the ballot in states. 

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Tue, Aug 11, 2020 7:15 PM
posted by QuakerOats

BS.  Biden not only says dumb, RACIST, shit all the time, he is also suffering from the onset of dementia.  He is totally incapable of handling the job.

Ok Dr. Quacker. I didn't know you were his doctor. 

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Tue, Aug 11, 2020 7:16 PM

Ehhh on Kamala. I was kinda hoping for Duckworth, but whatever. 

It may not help or hurt Biden in the end. 

gut

Senior Member

Tue, Aug 11, 2020 7:17 PM

As I said before, Kamala is seriously fake and unlikable.  All Trump has to do is convince a small % of voters in a few key states that they're voting for Kamala.  It's guaranteed Trump is going to say in one of the debates "I really should be debating Kamala....".

And I'm not sure her record as a tough DA is going to excite the base, either.  While poll after poll shows most people, across all segments, don't want to "defund the police", Kamala is going to have to walk what I think is an impossible line.  She won't be a "tough on crime" asset - I think she's already apologized for that in the debates and she's only going to end-up distancing herself from that record further to placate the mob.


Then again, Trump knew Hillary.  Everyone knew her.  He was totally unprepared to attack Kamala today at his presser.  That's par for the course, but it's not going to work on Biden who's generally well-liked and respected.  And it won't work on Kamala because she's not that well known.  He's going to have to actually have specific attacks with merit.  And there's no evidence he's capable of that.

gut

Senior Member

Tue, Aug 11, 2020 7:21 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

It may not help or hurt Biden in the end. 

Only if Biden can convince people he's fit to serve the full term.  If Trump can convince voters they're actually electing Kamala I think it's game over.

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Tue, Aug 11, 2020 7:24 PM
posted by gut
Only if Biden can convince people he's fit to serve the full term.  If Trump can convince voters they're actually electing Kamala I think it's game over.

So far, Biden is it looks like. Polls have been steady since May. 

I kinda think this whole election is referendum on Trump. As long as Biden is just upright, people will vote for him. Trump's failures the last few months may be his undoing. 

gut

Senior Member

Tue, Aug 11, 2020 7:32 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

So far, Biden is it looks like. Polls have been steady since May. 

I kinda think this whole election is referendum on Trump. As long as Biden is just upright, people will vote for him. Trump's failures the last few months may be his undoing. 

Ehhh, Trump is basically right where he was in 2016 in polling in key swing states.  The riots are good for him.  Progress on a vaccine is good for him.

But I'll save you the headline if Trump does win "Racist America rejects angry black woman".

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Tue, Aug 11, 2020 8:14 PM

It’ll be such a shitshow if Trump wins. 

geeblock

Member

Tue, Aug 11, 2020 9:18 PM
posted by QuakerOats

BS.  Biden not only says dumb, RACIST, shit all the time, he is also suffering from the onset of dementia.  He is totally incapable of handling the job.

Lol standing up against racism. Love to see it.