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MontyBrunswick

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Wed, Jul 15, 2020 6:45 PM
posted by Spock

Yea....only went up there to play Echo Hills course.

don't care

Spock

Senior Member

Wed, Jul 15, 2020 6:45 PM

Got my 457 statement.  Worst depression situation and almost complete economic shut down and I have recovered 95% of my investment $ since April 1.  


That is why Trump will be voted for.  If Biden was president we would have collapsed.  

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Fri, Jul 17, 2020 8:18 AM
posted by gut

The most concerning thing about this election is going to be the result.

I have a feeling turnout will be lower because of Covid, and that will cause astronomical butthurt and claims of an invalid election if Trump wins.

If Biden wins, the narrative has already been set for "fraud by mail".  I guess it's not surprising, but I can't believe so many people continue to believe in voter fraud.

But given everything else the govt does poorly, it stands to reason there will be plenty of suspicious data with respect to vote by mail.  Surprisingly lower turnout in some areas.  Probably many complaints of lost ballots.  Surprisingly high turnout in other areas.  Suspicious results (i.e. a purple county having 75% voting for one party instead of much closer to 50%).

And it's all only going to be compounded if Biden does resign a few months or year into office.

I can 100% see that. People should expect a delay in the results. I highly doubt we will know who won on election night. If more states are doing mail in voting, that takes time, and if it is new states doing it not used to the load of ballots, there could be hangups and delays. That may tick off Biden and Trump supporters as the results could swing from one guy winning to the other. I could see either one of them going to court like in 2000 to contest the results. 

I could see Trump either not accepting the results as well, or just not giving a shit about the transition period, doing whatever he wants, and then leaving town the day before the inauguration. 


On a different note, I was thinking about this yesterday reading the Op-ed that Maryland Governor Hogan wrote yesterday about the lack of a federal response on testing. Hogan is posturing for a run at 2024. He has made no secret about it. 

Imagine a world where if Clinton did win in 2016, she may have had to go against Larry Hogan in this election. Hogan, from a deeply blue state, has a high approval rating among Ds, is known for his work across the aisle, and is a moderate. I think he would win easily against a Clinton. Yet, here we are where Trump is behind the 8 ball again and will need to pull out of to win a second term. 

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Mon, Jul 20, 2020 7:50 AM

So much for Kanye.

Spock

Senior Member

Mon, Jul 20, 2020 3:05 PM

Did anyone see the Kamala Harris interview the other day?  I think they wheeled out an alien version of her.


Dude something is going in with that.  


gut

Senior Member

Mon, Jul 20, 2020 7:18 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

I can 100% see that. People should expect a delay in the results. I highly doubt we will know who won on election night. If more states are doing mail in voting, that takes time, and if it is new states doing it not used to the load of ballots, there could be hangups and delays. That may tick off Biden and Trump supporters as the results could swing from one guy winning to the other. I could see either one of them going to court like in 2000 to contest the results.

Oh, wow, I didn't even think of that angle.

This election is going to be a complete shit show like we've never seen.  And then throw in a little Russia and China meddling, real or imagined.

And since pretty much all of the media has become hyper-partisan shit stirrers, the meltdowns are going to be epic.  We really might see riots, regardless of who wins.

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Mon, Jul 20, 2020 10:50 PM

Looks like Ye is having a mental breakdown on twitter at the moment. 

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Mon, Jul 20, 2020 11:38 PM
posted by justincredible

Looks like Ye is having a mental breakdown on twitter at the moment. 

Yes, yes he is.


ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Tue, Jul 21, 2020 12:13 PM
posted by Spock

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/07/21/exclusive-john-solomon-seamus-bruner-vice-president-joe-biden-helped-sweep-russian-spy-ring-under-the-rug/


THis should play well for Biden and trying to defend his track record.  I remember all of this happening with the spies being sent to Russia and the Clinton reset button coming afterward.  What a joke the US was for a decade overseas.

Wait, so this is about how they "covered up" the Anna Chapman ring? Oh wow. LOL. That is not remotely how it went down or why. Go back and read Robert Gates take on the whole thing. He devotes a good chapter of his memoir to Russia and the policy then. Spytrading is the norm and everything was in the lens of maintaining strategic stability with Russia. 

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Tue, Jul 21, 2020 1:21 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Wait, so this is about how they "covered up" the Anna Chapman ring? Oh wow. LOL. That is not remotely how it went down or why. Go back and read Robert Gates take on the whole then. He devotes a good chapter of his memoir to Russia and the policy then. Spytrading is the norm and everything was in the lens of maintaining strategic stability with Russia. 

You're talking to CC. Breitbart is about the closest he gets to reading.

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Tue, Jul 21, 2020 3:05 PM

Posting Breitbart articles to prove your point = you’re gonna have a bad time 

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Wed, Jul 22, 2020 8:35 AM

I've actually been pondering who to vote for the last several months. I finally came to a hard decision the other day, and by no means am I happy or satisfied with it.

I'll be voting for Trump.


It's not necessarily a vote for him but rather a vote against the far left ideology. It's a matter of voting for an asshole or bolshevik ideology.


I'll vote for the asshole. Good day!

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Wed, Jul 22, 2020 9:05 AM

Did you vote in the thread with the poll?

Spock

Senior Member

Wed, Jul 22, 2020 10:20 AM
posted by CenterBHSFan

I've actually been pondering who to vote for the last several months. I finally came to a hard decision the other day, and by no means am I happy or satisfied with it.

I'll be voting for Trump.


It's not necessarily a vote for him but rather a vote against the far left ideology. It's a matter of voting for an asshole or bolshevik ideology.


I'll vote for the asshole. Good day!

ITs the "at least you know what you are getting" vote.


Wade through the assholeness and childish tweets and what you get a robust pro US economy and a powerful international voice.


The other side will be higher taxes, stagnant growth and China dry holing us in trade.

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Wed, Jul 22, 2020 10:55 AM
posted by Spock

ITs the "at least you know what you are getting" vote.


Wade through the assholeness and childish tweets and what you get a robust pro US economy and a powerful international voice.


The other side will be higher taxes, stagnant growth and China dry holing us in trade.

Again, people right now care more about the Virus than the economy and people think Trump is doing a horrible job on that right now. Kinda hard to have a robust economy when the virus is still going on and most of the country is in some stage of shutdown. 

The fact the President got up there yesterday and actually said things are going to get worse than better, mentioned wearing a mask, and noted this may take a bit even shows that. 

Also, LOL that we have a powerful international voice. Yeah...we are the envy of the world right now with all of our Covid cases and shutdowns. Man, people are really looking to us on leadership.....

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Wed, Jul 22, 2020 11:07 AM

In light of all that is going on now, I put very little weight into present polls.  There is a lot that can change in the next 3+ months that can make a huge difference either way.  I still cannot believe that of all times, the democrats have chosen now to put forth an career politician who is not mentally fit to a full-time job.  Talk about missing an enormous opportunity.  

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Wed, Jul 22, 2020 11:29 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

In light of all that is going on now, I put very little weight into present polls.  There is a lot that can change in the next 3+ months that can make a huge difference either way.  I still cannot believe that of all times, the democrats have chosen now to put forth an career politician who is not mentally fit to a full-time job.  Talk about missing an enormous opportunity.  

Maybe...but do you think any of the other candidates like Bernie, Warren, or Mayor Pete would be doing any better? I'm not sure as I'm sure most of the socialist/ leftist stuff that Trump is throwing out there would be sticking. 

I do agree with your caveat that a lot can change in the next 3 months. 

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Wed, Jul 22, 2020 11:34 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Maybe...but do you think any of the other candidates like Bernie, Warren, or Mayor Pete would be doing any better? I'm not sure as I'm sure most of the socialist/ leftist stuff that Trump is throwing out there would be sticking. 

I do agree with your caveat that a lot can change in the next 3 months. 

I actually think that Liz, Tulsi, Pete, Bernie (Head Bolshevik in Chief), etc. would do better.

They, at least, know where in the fuck they are and are able to finish sentences. It doesn't even matter at this point if you agree with their politics. They are competent with no mental decline.

Do better.

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Wed, Jul 22, 2020 11:40 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Again, people right now care more about the Virus than the economy and people think Trump is doing a horrible job on that right now. Kinda hard to have a robust economy when the virus is still going on and most of the country is in some stage of shutdown. 

The fact the President got up there yesterday and actually said things are going to get worse than better, mentioned wearing a mask, and noted this may take a bit even shows that. 

Also, LOL that we have a powerful international voice. Yeah...we are the envy of the world right now with all of our Covid cases and shutdowns. Man, people are really looking to us on leadership.....

So Trump is a tyrant according to lefties. Except for when it comes to the virus. Then, he's not tyrannisizing enough. I've never before witnessed a tyrannizing non-tyrant in my life. But there you have it, folks. A new thing has evolved!

We have governors. A non-tyrant would leave individual state mandates to the governors in a non-tyrannized world. But that's not enough.

Lefties want Trump to tyrannize so that they can have their huge fap fest calling him a tyrant. You know you feel the tingle deep in the left one. Don't you? (you can admit it, you're among friends)



CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Wed, Jul 22, 2020 11:40 AM
posted by justincredible

Did you vote in the thread with the poll?

Not yet. Will do so now.

Spock

Senior Member

Wed, Jul 22, 2020 11:43 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Again, people right now care more about the Virus than the economy and people think Trump is doing a horrible job on that right now. Kinda hard to have a robust economy when the virus is still going on and most of the country is in some stage of shutdown. 

The fact the President got up there yesterday and actually said things are going to get worse than better, mentioned wearing a mask, and noted this may take a bit even shows that. 

Also, LOL that we have a powerful international voice. Yeah...we are the envy of the world right now with all of our Covid cases and shutdowns. Man, people are really looking to us on leadership.....

The fake outrage by the leftist media is driving this fear of bad virus killing everyone,  to say Trump is doing a horrible job is just ignoring the stuff that was done on a federal level that worked.

The state and local governments are the ones that need to be doing a better job.  


QuakerOats

Senior Member

Wed, Jul 22, 2020 11:44 AM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Again, people right now care more about the Virus than the economy and people think Trump is doing a horrible job on that right now. Kinda hard to have a robust economy when the virus is still going on and most of the country is in some stage of shutdown. 

The fact the President got up there yesterday and actually said things are going to get worse than better, mentioned wearing a mask, and noted this may take a bit even shows that. 

Also, LOL that we have a powerful international voice. Yeah...we are the envy of the world right now with all of our Covid cases and shutdowns. Man, people are really looking to us on leadership.....


People care about the virus, but they definitely care about the economy more, especially their personal economy.  Despite the panic propaganda most people now realize that the virus is 99.99% survivable, so they are ready to move ahead with keeping the wheels on the economy which they know is the long-lasting issue.

Spock

Senior Member

Wed, Jul 22, 2020 11:46 AM
posted by CenterBHSFan

So Trump is a tyrant according to lefties. Except for when it comes to the virus. Then, he's not tyrannisizing enough. I've never before witnessed a tyrannizing non-tyrant in my life. But there you have it, folks. A new thing has evolved!

We have governors. A non-tyrant would leave individual state mandates to the governors in a non-tyrannized world. But that's not enough.

Lefties want Trump to tyrannize so that they can have their huge fap fest calling him a tyrant. You know you feel the tingle deep in the left one. Don't you? (you can admit it, you're among friends)



This.  "he isnt doing anything about the virus!!!!"

"He is doing too much about protests..."


Now swap topics in each sentence........he cant win with either way.

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Thu, Jul 23, 2020 6:05 PM

Trump cancels his Republican National Comittee events in Jacksonville due to the virus, which is hilarious because he wanted to move it there because Charlotte told him he couldn't have a big event. 

The formal events are still in Charlotte, but I doubt Trump will get his big rally he wants.