Since Impeachment BS......
Trump get $5 million in donations in 24 hours
the fallout of this for Dems is that Biden will be done (I feel like the whistleblower is an anti-Biden person and this was done more for getting dirt on him and less then Trump)
posted by Spock...I feel like the whistleblower is an anti-Biden person and this was done more for getting dirt on him and less then Trump)
That's a possibility. I also sometimes wonder about "manufactured crises" that the Trump campaign orchestrates to embarrass the media and to rally his over how he's been unfairly attacked.
But when I first heard all this about Biden months ago, I wondered how he would avoid a similar investigation to Russia collusion. The Ukraine thing is a much lesser deal, to me, then how his son got $1B from China for a PE fund. That....Does....Not....Happen....He had absolutely no pedigree, nor did his partners have much of a pedigree (I think one of the partners was a Kerry!). The only way they got that money was because of political connections, 100% guaranteed. That doesn't mean any exchange of quid pro quo, but there's 0 doubt China gave them that money in hopes of getting some influence from it.
posted by gutThat's a possibility. I also sometimes wonder about "manufactured crises" that the Trump campaign orchestrates to embarrass the media and to rally his over how he's been unfairly attacked.
But when I first heard all this about Biden months ago, I wondered how he would avoid a similar investigation to Russia collusion. The Ukraine thing is a much lesser deal, to me, then how his son got $1B from China for a PE fund. That....Does....Not....Happen....He had absolutely no pedigree, nor did his partners have much of a pedigree (I think one of the partners was a Kerry!). The only way they got that money was because of political connections, 100% guaranteed. That doesn't mean any exchange of quid pro quo, but there's 0 doubt China gave them that money in hopes of getting some influence from it.
If I were Liz Warren I would announce my VP pick soon. It will wipe Biden out.
Lol Beto goes to Kent State and talks about gun confiscation. You know, where the US gov't shot its' own citizens. What a moron. Gotta be crazy to try and poll above 2%.
Also interesting, Harris not even polling well in her own state. She fell quick.
posted by iclfan2Also interesting, Harris not even polling well in her own state. She fell quick.
She's so incredibly fake because she keeps trying out different images/personalities to project. She's just not likeable (ala Hillary or Ted Cruz).
posted by gutShe's so incredibly fake because she keeps trying out different images/personalities to project. She's just not likeable (ala Hillary or Ted Cruz).
I thought she was drunk last debate.
Well Bernie is done. No way we elect someone that just had heart surgery
I don't think Bernie ever had any chance at the nomination. It's gonna be Warren, right?
posted by justincredibleI don't think Bernie ever had any chance at the nomination. It's gonna be Warren, right?
Looks that way. Not sure Biden will be able to overcome his shortcomings. Gross....
posted by justincredibleI don't think Bernie ever had any chance at the nomination. It's gonna be Warren, right?
It's still 4 months before the first primaries. I don't think it will be Bernie, and the Dems seem committed to burying Biden (IMO, the China stuff is a much bigger scandal than Ukraine = 10X the money in management fees, PER YEAR!!!).
So I think that basically leaves Warren and Buttigieg. Hard for me to imagine Warren actually winning the general - my parents can't stand Trump, but they won't vote for Warren.
posted by Spock
Well Bernie is done. No way we elect someone that just had heart surgery
Wait a minute, he went to a U.S. hospital for his major health procedure, and not Cuba or Canada? WTF.
Wouldnt it be a super troll move for Trump to resign his term as president to prevent an impeachment then run again for 2020?
posted by SpockWouldnt it be a super troll move for Trump to resign his term as president to prevent an impeachment then run again for 2020?
There's no chance they ever get 67 Senators unless he's guilty of actual wrongdoing. Not to mention, if he resigns the NY AG probably has half a dozen prosecutions lined-up for him.
It's becoming pretty apparent that the strategery here is just to say the word "impeachment" as many times as possible over the next 12 months, without actually doing anything about it.
posted by fish82It's becoming pretty apparent that the strategery here is just to say the word "impeachment" as many times as possible over the next 12 months, without actually doing anything about it.
It's kind of funny watching Fox News try to explain this all away with the same diligence and objectivity of the whole Russia collusion thing. First they were all over changing the rule on first-hand knowledge, which was a red herring. Now it's about some conspiracy involving collusion with the Democrats on the intel committee.
Again Trump is his own worst enemy, but I don't know how there isn't enough smoke here to investigate. But on that note, Schiff himself should be impeached (LMAO over Trump calling for his investigation for treason....talk about trampling the line of separation with DOJ).
Dem debate.......these people are getting nowhere.
posted by SpockDem debate.......these people are getting nowhere.
Now I don't watch any debates because they're worthless, but why does a person who clearly doesn't like Democrats watch the Democrat debate? That's really weird to me.
My wife and I watched for a bit last night, maybe 30 minutes. The only candidates worth considering on that stage were Yang, Pete, and Tulsi.
posted by kizer permanenteNow I don't watch any debates because they're worthless, but why does a person who clearly doesn't like Democrats watch the Democrat debate? That's really weird to me.
I watched during tv breaks while watching the new 30 for 30 on the UFC.......I think that watching a little helps solidify your political views either for or against. Or just for the humor of watching people try to outdo each other in the idiot catagory
posted by SpockI watched during tv breaks while watching the new 30 for 30 on the UFC.......I think that watching a little helps solidify your political views either for or against. Or just for the humor of watching people try to outdo each other in the idiot catagory
Well, that's why we read your posts!
posted by SpockI watched during tv breaks while watching the new 30 for 30 on the UFC.......I think that watching a little helps solidify your political views either for or against. Or just for the humor of watching people try to outdo each other in the idiot catagory
I guess so? Debates are the most pointless things in this day and age. i'm not sure why anyone watches them anymore.
posted by kizer permanenteI guess so? Debates are the most pointless things in this day and age. i'm not sure why anyone watches them anymore.
At this stage of the game, they're more or less worthless unless you're just looking for some sort of soundbite to make your point about how one or more people either gets it or is delusional. There just are too many people looking for air time and too little time to elaborate on points to make them have any real meaning beyond that. They're a bit more worthwhile when the field is trimmed to 2-3 primary contenders or it's the actual presidential ones, but I still find skipping them and just hooking myself up with a few articles on what happened to be far more palatable than listening to people give canned answers to generic questions, while trying to throw in whatever catchphrases they're working on as often as possible.
posted by HereticAt this stage of the game, they're more or less worthless unless you're just looking for some sort of soundbite to make your point about how one or more people either gets it or is delusional. There just are too many people looking for air time and too little time to elaborate on points to make them have any real meaning beyond that. They're a bit more worthwhile when the field is trimmed to 2-3 primary contenders or it's the actual presidential ones, but I still find skipping them and just hooking myself up with a few articles on what happened to be far more palatable than listening to people give canned answers to generic questions, while trying to throw in whatever catchphrases they're working on as often as possible.
I have no interest in them and I’m apathetic to either party. If I hated a party as much as Quaker and Spock do, I couldn’t imagine watching said party’s debate.
I really like Tulsi. I think she would easily be a candidate 6 or 8 years ago in a moderate environment
posted by kizer permanenteI have no interest in them and I’m apathetic to either party. If I hated a party as much as Quaker and Spock do, I couldn’t imagine watching said party’s debate.
I do not have much interest in watching a group of Marxists discuss who can steal the most productive labor and redistribute it in order to gain power.