https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/in-blue-seattle-trump-supporters-are-starting-to-come-out-of-hiding/

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/11/democrat-debate-andrew-yang-to-do-something-no-presidential-candidate-has-ever-done/

i might tune in.........

So Tulsi has spoke out against pc culture, unfavorably against 3rd trimester abortions unless medical emergency and saying that she is for free speech even for her political critics. I'm starting to like her more and more.

But, of course, the DNC isn't going to give her any chance to to butt heads with Kamala Harris again or E-Warren. They are effectively cutting her out of everything.

Either Dems are really stupid or they are setting her up for a VP run

....keeping her off the stage with the wackos 

posted by Spock

Either Dems are really stupid or they are setting her up for a VP run

....keeping her off the stage with the wackos 

I think the ticket will either be Biden/Harris or Warren/Buttigieg.  

My darkhorse VP is Booker.  Unfortunately for Tulsi her diversity score just isn't high enough for the Wokecrats.

Democrats debate.....

Yang offering up a lottery with campaign money = illegal and just cost him everything.

Klobochar is done.

Mayor Pete.....no thanks

Bernie.....done listening to him yell.  Could you imagine Bernie dealing with terrorism?

Kamala Harris is just completely fake and unlikable.

With the massive amount of wealth just handed to the Clintons and Obamas, being a Dem POTUS is literally a lottery.  Bernie's old, though, so he'd have to hang it up after 1 term so he had time to cash-in before he died.

Well after another national debate.......not one single person up there that will become or even has a chance to be President.  Matter of fact, they are all scary as hell

https://twitter.com/BetoORourke/status/1172342680178716672

posted by justincredible

https://twitter.com/BetoORourke/status/1172342680178716672

When you're polling at 3% you gotta go cray...

For anyone Nevertrump or some of the dems on here, who would you even be leaning towards right now? They have all said some of the craziest shit out of a mainstream candidate. 

Did Joe Biden really say no one should be in jail for a non-violent crime? What a ding-dong.

posted by justincredible

Did Joe Biden really say no one should be in jail for a non-violent crime? What a ding-dong.

Yes

posted by iclfan2

When you're polling at 3% you gotta go cray...

For anyone Nevertrump or some of the dems on here, who would you even be leaning towards right now? They have all said some of the craziest shit out of a mainstream candidate. 

I've realized the POTUS doesn't really matter - 10.5 years of Obama and Trump have convinced me of that.  The job now is basically giving speeches and raising money while pretending you have the influence to make deals on the world stage.

So with that said, I'll take Biden or Buttigieg or Tulsi.   The rest, maybe except Booker, are commies and/or total nutjobs.  But I'll be voting 3rd party even if I have to write in Bugs Bunny.

posted by gut

I've realized the POTUS doesn't really matter - 10.5 years of Obama and Trump have convinced me of that.  The job now is basically giving speeches and raising money while pretending you have the influence to make deals on the world stage.

So with that said, I'll take Biden or Buttigieg or Tulsi.   The rest, maybe except Booker, are commies and/or total nutjobs.  But I'll be voting 3rd party even if I have to write in Bugs Bunny.

Of the current dems Tulsi is the only one I can see myself voting for. She was the only one level headed other than Biden. Biden is level headed but quite frankly isn't all there where Tulsi is. The rest are nuts (Buttigieg less nuts but still nuts).

posted by iclfan2

When you're polling at 3% you gotta go cray...

For anyone Nevertrump or some of the dems on here, who would you even be leaning towards right now? They have all said some of the craziest shit out of a mainstream candidate. 

If I *had* to vote for a dem it would be Tulsi. 

Otherwise, I have no fucking idea who I'm going to vote for.  At least in '16 I could vote for Johnson. This time around I got no one. I don't know. Might write in Rand Paul.

posted by CenterBHSFan

If I *had* to vote for a dem it would be Tulsi. 

Otherwise, I have no fucking idea who I'm going to vote for.  At least in '16 I could vote for Johnson. This time around I got no one. I don't know. Might write in Rand Paul.

The Libertarian Party is so bad - going backwards when the last 10 years they should have been able to build some momentum.  Then again, the two-party media is probably more effective than DC at burying a third party.

I'm pretty sure Johnson, Weld, and Sarwak (party chair) were all plants meant to destroy the party from within. Otherwise, the incompetence is just mind-boggling.

And it pisses me off that I'm probably going to end up voting for Orange Man Bad.

posted by justincredible

Did Joe Biden really say no one should be in jail for a non-violent crime? What a ding-dong.

Had he said "victimless", I could get on board. I'd still like to see burglars put away.

posted by jmog

Of the current dems Tulsi is the only one I can see myself voting for. She was the only one level headed other than Biden. Biden is level headed but quite frankly isn't all there where Tulsi is. The rest are nuts (Buttigieg less nuts but still nuts).

And Beto, who is no-nuts.

posted by queencitybuckeye

Had he said "victimless", I could get on board. I'd still like to see burglars put away.

Absolutely. If there is no victim, there is no crime.

posted by queencitybuckeye

Had he said "victimless", I could get on board. I'd still like to see burglars put away.

Apparently, according to something I read somewhere, he was trying to refer to non-violent drug crimes (something a lot of us here have essentially supported), but gaffe'd. While that means a debate with him and Trump would be entertaining, with both of them rambling incoherently much of the time while fact-checkers' heads explode on a minute-by-minute basis, that confrontation wouldn't exactly inspire me to feel optimism over the near future.

posted by Heretic

....wouldn't exactly inspire me to feel optimism over the near future.

Between AR-15's and climate change I doubt any of us live long enough for it to matter.

Which Marxist promised the most free stuff last night?

posted by QuakerOats

 

Which Marxist promised the most free stuff last night?

It was like a tornado of free stuff.  

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2019/09/20/mayor-bill-de-blasio-ends-presidential-campaign/

Well he can disappear