Waynedale Football?

• Hunter86

  

  1_beast;1310553 wrote:Also no "quicks" allowing your playmaker a chance to make something happen. With the screen/bubble screen, the defense has too much time to adjust and move to the ball.
  
  
  Just thinking out loud in Apple Creek

  Nothing quick about it when the QB has to run to the sidelines before every darn play
  
  Since the QB is designated the on field leader of the team..............maybe just once allow him to make a decision on his own.
  
  How many delay of game penalty's did we have or timeouts were wasted because of this ?
  
  Not to mention the extra mileage on the QB.
• MOUNTAINBEAR

  And sir that is a great question- that is a good point for X's and O's. But the quarterbacks we have had recently are nowhere good enough to call offensive plays. NO WAY!

  Hunter86;1310574 wrote:Nothing quick about it when the QB has to run to the sidelines before every darn play
  
  Since the QB is designated the on field leader of the team..............maybe just once allow him to make a decision on his own.
  
  How many delay of game penalty's did we have or timeouts were wasted because of this ?
  
  Not to mention the extra mileage on the QB.

• MOUNTAINBEAR

  but please, we do not want to go to the singing gate, or trickerry by deception, or bologna offenses or defense's.
• MOUNTAINBEAR

  SWING NOT SING

  MOUNTAINBEAR;1310583 wrote:but please, we do not want to go to the singing gate, or trickerry by deception, or bologna offenses or defense's.

• MOUNTAINBEAR

  Beast- Trap says Shrock at Chipp? Now that would be justice for em'
• Jmar25

  eyes r burning;1310572 wrote:1) not a coach
  2) not a coach
  3) not a coach
  
  Glad your back JMAR

  You're still a incapable of reading. What's your point?
• Jmar25

  MOUNTAINBEAR;1310599 wrote:Beast- Trap says Shrock at Chipp? Now that would be justice for em'

  Never happen
• 1_beast

  

  It's plausible. He has a bad taste in his mouth, and I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he took the job AND a few of his 35 year asst's. and Chippewa would love to have him. Bank it.
• MOUNTAINBEAR

  Rumer or not, that would be great. serve them right.

  1_beast;1310610 wrote:It's plausible. He has a bad taste in his mouth, and I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he took the job AND a few of his 35 year asst's. and Chippewa would love to have him. Bank it.

• Jmar25

  What are you banking??? That he goes or that he has some follow him if he goes? FYI... The principal wanted someone who would be in the building.... Schrock would not...
• 1_beast

  

  If he takes the job, he will have former assts.
• MOUNTAINBEAR

  Honestly do not think so, but guys, that would be awesome

  1_beast;1310690 wrote:If he takes the job, he will have former assts.

• eyes r burning

  Any chance we could get Shrock? Heck what about Wolf, he out coached us by 22pts. he hung 36 on us at home. Please don't get P.Oed Jamr or Wclfan jus looking back on the historical season.
• BAD_NEWS_BEAR

  I’m glad to see that I’m not the only one who thinks the play calling seems poor. Over the last 5 years I can think of 6 games that were lost or the Bears got cut off at the knees because we threw an interception inside the 10 yd. line after we ran the ball down the field. The intercepted passes inside the 10 have all been thrown to the middle instead of a corner where we either catch it or the ball goes out of bounds. They did it again last week, but B. Stanley caught it for a TD. Face it though, Chippewa’s defense wasn’t the best. The other thing is that we had a left handed QB this year and the coaches kept calling passes where he rolled out to his right and had to throw against his body, something a much better QB has a hard time doing. I can remember 3 passes in the game last week where we did that and all the passes came up short. A better defense would probably have intercepted at least one of those passes.
  
  Furthermore, look at the history over the last 3 years. Three years ago Casto was supposed to be the QB but got hurt in a scrimmage or practice. Z started B. Stanley at QB against Tusky and it was a disaster. Nothing changed and we lost badly to Ridgewood the following game. Next came Triway and Casto was back. This by far was the best game the team played all year, I think we only lost by 7. Casto threw for over 300 yds. However, in that game Stanley and Casto shared time at QB, and it was no surprise to anyone, especially Triway, that if Casto was on the field we were probably going to pass and if Stanley was on the field he would run or hand off to Stausbaugh. Casto, a senior, never saw the field again after that game. I never felt more sorry for a kid, he got shafted big time.
  
  So, after a 1 – 9 season nothing changed. We had a good sized line last year and won 6 games in spite of Z’s coaching. But, what if Z had put in another QB (Constable comes to mind) & ran a power I with Stanley in the backfield? B. Stanley and B. Miller were the best 2 runners on the field. If Stausbaugh would have been moved to tightend, C. Troyer at FB, and B. Stanley at HB, what would have happened? We’ll never know, but just think about it. Constable could throw the ball much better than Stanley and was certainly capable of handing the ball off. Z didn’t like C. Troyer because he told Z at senior camp that his goal was to get more tackles than Z for a single season. Troyer had the most tackles in the county as a junior, but was only given split time on defense his senior year and played offensive line after being a FB the year before. Explain that one.
  
  Those of you who say Z doesn’t relate to the kids are right. Those of you who don’t believe it haven’t had a kid play for him or your kid has played for him and is one of his chosen athletes. The boys could never have fun. I’m guessing most of you played HS football. If you did, I’ll bet you played practical jokes on each other. (Boys being boys). Z squelches that fun. Let’s face it, most of these kids aren’t going to play football past HS. So if you take the fun away, why play? It’s not that the kids don’t want to win or aren’t giving 100%. Over the last 3 years after virtually every loss Z makes the same excuses: the team is young or the team didn’t execute the plays. I say the team did execute the plays – the plays just flat out sucked. And often kids give 100% and still lose. Desire is not the issue here. And think about this year. Again, B. Stanley was a hell of a runner, how many times did he get the ball?
  
  IMHO, Z misses the good old days when he played HS football and all the glory of the past. Yes, he played for Akron, but had a lack luster career there. He only started 16 games at FB and ran for 98-99 yds total. He did a little better receiving the ball. However, I don’t believe there were a lot of reporters waiting to talk to him after the games. Do I think Z wants to win games? You bet I do, but I think it’s more to boost his own ego than for the kids. In most professions, you are not judged on what you did yesterday, but what you’ve done today. In Z’s case that’s just not the way it is. There are too many people that remember him from HS and he’ll survive on that alone.
  
  Anyway, if Z stays at Waynedale, which I suspect he will, there will be a lot of happy people. It’s just that they all live in Jeromesville, West Salem, Creston, Smithville, Rittman, Doylestown, and Dalton.
• eyes r burning

  BAD_NEWS_BEAR;1310835 wrote:I’m glad to see that I’m not the only one who thinks the play calling seems poor. Over the last 5 years I can think of 6 games that were lost or the Bears got cut off at the knees because we threw an interception inside the 10 yd. line after we ran the ball down the field. The intercepted passes inside the 10 have all been thrown to the middle instead of a corner where we either catch it or the ball goes out of bounds. They did it again last week, but B. Stanley caught it for a TD. Face it though, Chippewa’s defense wasn’t the best. The other thing is that we had a left handed QB this year and the coaches kept calling passes where he rolled out to his right and had to throw against his body, something a much better QB has a hard time doing. I can remember 3 passes in the game last week where we did that and all the passes came up short. A better defense would probably have intercepted at least one of those passes.
  
  Furthermore, look at the history over the last 3 years. Three years ago Casto was supposed to be the QB but got hurt in a scrimmage or practice. Z started B. Stanley at QB against Tusky and it was a disaster. Nothing changed and we lost badly to Ridgewood the following game. Next came Triway and Casto was back. This by far was the best game the team played all year, I think we only lost by 7. Casto threw for over 300 yds. However, in that game Stanley and Casto shared time at QB, and it was no surprise to anyone, especially Triway, that if Casto was on the field we were probably going to pass and if Stanley was on the field he would run or hand off to Stausbaugh. Casto, a senior, never saw the field again after that game. I never felt more sorry for a kid, he got shafted big time.
  
  So, after a 1 – 9 season nothing changed. We had a good sized line last year and won 6 games in spite of Z’s coaching. But, what if Z had put in another QB (Constable comes to mind) & ran a power I with Stanley in the backfield? B. Stanley and B. Miller were the best 2 runners on the field. If Stausbaugh would have been moved to tightend, C. Troyer at FB, and B. Stanley at HB, what would have happened? We’ll never know, but just think about it. Constable could throw the ball much better than Stanley and was certainly capable of handing the ball off. Z didn’t like C. Troyer because he told Z at senior camp that his goal was to get more tackles than Z for a single season. Troyer had the most tackles in the county as a junior, but was only given split time on defense his senior year and played offensive line after being a FB the year before. Explain that one.
  
  Those of you who say Z doesn’t relate to the kids are right. Those of you who don’t believe it haven’t had a kid play for him or your kid has played for him and is one of his chosen athletes. The boys could never have fun. I’m guessing most of you played HS football. If you did, I’ll bet you played practical jokes on each other. (Boys being boys). Z squelches that fun. Let’s face it, most of these kids aren’t going to play football past HS. So if you take the fun away, why play? It’s not that the kids don’t want to win or aren’t giving 100%. Over the last 3 years after virtually every loss Z makes the same excuses: the team is young or the team didn’t execute the plays. I say the team did execute the plays – the plays just flat out sucked. And often kids give 100% and still lose. Desire is not the issue here. And think about this year. Again, B. Stanley was a hell of a runner, how many times did he get the ball?
  
  IMHO, Z misses the good old days when he played HS football and all the glory of the past. Yes, he played for Akron, but had a lack luster career there. He only started 16 games at FB and ran for 98-99 yds total. He did a little better receiving the ball. However, I don’t believe there were a lot of reporters waiting to talk to him after the games. Do I think Z wants to win games? You bet I do, but I think it’s more to boost his own ego than for the kids. In most professions, you are not judged on what you did yesterday, but what you’ve done today. In Z’s case that’s just not the way it is. There are too many people that remember him from HS and he’ll survive on that alone.
  
  Anyway, if Z stays at Waynedale, which I suspect he will, there will be a lot of happy people. It’s just that they all live in Jeromesville, West Salem, Creston, Smithville, Rittman, Doylestown, and Dalton.

  Good golly, JMAR he got all the words spelled right, what do you think about that, so it's just not us dumb@#@ country hicks that see the problem, hope you don't run and hide like you buddy wclfan (is he on vacation or something)? or did his wife ban him fromn the computer?
• 1_beast

  

  eyes r burning;1310856 wrote:Good golly, JMAR he got all the words spelled right, what do you think about that, so it's just not us dumb@#@ country hicks that see the problem, hope you don't run and hide like you buddy wclfan (is he on vacation or something)? or did his wife ban him fromn the computer?

  i've been told wcalfan and his IP address are no longer on the Ohio Chatter database. Gone like the wind.
• Jmar25

  eyes r burning;1310856 wrote:Good golly, JMAR he got all the words spelled right, what do you think about that, so it's just not us dumb@#@ country hicks that see the problem, hope you don't run and hide like you buddy wclfan (is he on vacation or something)? or did his wife ban him fromn the computer?

  I know its so nice to have someone on here from Waynedale that has all their teeth and isn't illiterate. On top of that, someone who makes some points and has logical and resonable information to back up their opinion. You should try it sometime even though I don't think you are capable.
  
  You're the Waynedale version of Paul. Trust me... that isn't a compliment.
• eyes r burning

  Jmar25;1310996 wrote:I know its so nice to have someone on here from Waynedale that has all their teeth and isn't illiterate. On top of that, someone who makes some points and has logical and resonable information to back up their opinion. You should try it sometime even though I don't think you are capable.
  
  You're the Waynedale version of Paul. Trust me... that isn't a compliment.

  I think Paul is great, so I will take as one
• 1_beast

  

  Jmar is a tool
• MOUNTAINBEAR

  jmar- help me understand here, why is this coach Z thing got you so defensive? Up in arms so to speak? I am no longer part of the bashing crowd. But you have to admit he has made some grievous errors. Past couple seasons not good and future not looking much brighter. So really come on level here and help us understand why the coach has your loyalty. Just wondering here thats all. No personal attack. You opened my eyes earlier, so help me out again.

  Jmar25;1310996 wrote:I know its so nice to have someone on here from Waynedale that has all their teeth and isn't illiterate. On top of that, someone who makes some points and has logical and resonable information to back up their opinion. You should try it sometime even though I don't think you are capable.
  
  You're the Waynedale version of Paul. Trust me... that isn't a compliment.

• eyes r burning

  1_beast;1311395 wrote:Jmar is a tool

  Pretty sure he is done Beast, really don't think he can defend Z anymore everytime he opens his mouth it shows how much he really knows about being a football coach ( which is nothing). Good bye JMAR!!!!!
• MOUNTAINBEAR

  BEAST STOP PISSN PEOPLE OFF! No just kidding. Still think the two (fan-jmar) are closer to this then just casual. Need a sherlock holmes moment to fiqure it out I guess.

  eyes r burning;1311867 wrote:Pretty sure he is done Beast, really don't think he can defend Z anymore everytime he opens his mouth it shows how much he really knows about being a football coach ( which is nothing). Good bye JMAR!!!!!

• eyes r burning

  MOUNTAINBEAR;1311884 wrote:BEAST STOP PISSN PEOPLE OFF! No just kidding. Still think the two (fan-jmar) are closer to this then just casual. Need a sherlock holmes moment to fiqure it out I guess.

  No, JMAR is a ex teammate and he lives in the past, he was a great great football player (we get it, the boy was a football player). BUT HOW DOES THAT MAKE HIM A COACH???? Just my dumb$#$ thinking here, but the the problem is a little higher up the chain of the southeast local, please when do we vote on the next levy? And when is that borad meeting?
• eaglefutbol33

  eyes r burning;1311891 wrote:No, JMAR is a ex teammate and he lives in the past, he was a great great football player (we get it, the boy was a football player). BUT HOW DOES THAT MAKE HIM A COACH???? Just my dumb$#$ thinking here, but the the problem is a little higher up the chain of the southeast local, please when do we vote on the next levy? And when is that borad meeting?

  so who do you think the problem is then?
• eyes r burning

  eaglefutbol33;1311894 wrote:so who do you think the problem is then?

  Your kidding me right? If the whole district can see( thier are couple out there that can't)what the problem is and the people we have leading this district can"t??? I'm about people being held accountable, if we can't put this programs lapse on the coach then lets climb the chain, please you tell me!! who's next or wants or should be held accountable, if your in this district you should have an opinion, lets hear it!!