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2015-2016 Cleveland Cavaliers World Champions!

  • lhslep134
    Midstate01;1737260 wrote:S&L said what I sorta remembered about him, which is why it was so weird earlier this season when I started hearing his name a lot when talking about next impact players to come over from Europe. Wonder if something has changed with him maybe? I doubt it.
    Kaun rated as the 9th best player in all of the Euroleagues this year in PIR (Performance Index Rating) which is similar to NBA's Efficiency rating, I guess?

    http://www.euroleague.net/main/statistics?mode=Leaders&entity=Players&seasonmode=Single&seasoncode=E2014&cat=Valuation&agg=Accumulated

    My guess is that he received a lot better big man coaching overseas than he did in college. Don't know where that leaves his value now, but I have to imagine it's higher than it was when he came out of college.

    Also, this:
    Commander of Awesome;1737242 wrote:He's still a center though, Bigs get paid and are always in demand.
  • SportsAndLady
    lhslep134;1737271 wrote:Kaun rated as the 9th best player in all of the Euroleagues this year in PIR (Performance Index Rating) which is similar to NBA's Efficiency rating, I guess?

    http://www.euroleague.net/main/statistics?mode=Leaders&entity=Players&seasonmode=Single&seasoncode=E2014&cat=Valuation&agg=Accumulated

    My guess is that he received a lot better big man coaching overseas than he did in college. Don't know where that leaves his value now, but I have to imagine it's higher than it was when he came out of college.

    Also, this:
    Doesn't get much better than Danny manning haha
  • lhslep134
    SportsAndLady;1737278 wrote:Doesn't get much better than Danny manning haha
    I should have rephrased. I meant to say more focused coaching overseas. College big men aren't afforded the same developmental energy as professional teams, especially a powerhouse like CSKA
  • like_that
    It's crazy the draft is tonight. It was nice for once not to think about the draft halfway thru the season.
  • Lovejoy1984
    lhslep134;1737280 wrote:I should have rephrased. I meant to say more focused coaching overseas. College big men aren't afforded the same developmental energy as professional teams, especially a powerhouse like CSKA
    True, and at the same time, Big men almost always take longer to be ready.
  • lhslep134
    like_that;1737284 wrote:It's crazy the draft is tonight. It was nice for once not to think about the draft halfway thru the season.
    I was thinking the same thing a couple hours ago.
  • lhslep134
    HighRoller74;1737285 wrote:True, and at the same time, Big men almost always take longer to be ready.
    At the same time...where the hell did this Kaun development come from? Not the development of him as a player, the development of him as an asset that other teams want. I hadn't heard anything until it came out a couple days ago. It sounds like he's basically a free asset for us, so no complaints.
  • Lovejoy1984
    Cavs finally on the clock.

    Hazell, Tyus Jones, RJ Hunter still on the clock. Or they could stash a foreign guy.
  • wildcats20
    Draft Tyus and then send him to Minny for 31 and 36.
  • Terry_Tate
    HighRoller74;1737343 wrote:Cavs finally on the clock.

    Hazell, Tyus Jones, RJ Hunter still on the clock. Or they could stash a foreign guy.
    Seems like Tyus Jones would be a great pick.
  • Laley23
    Tyus would be great for Cavs IMO.
  • GOONx19
    Makes us better. No complaints.
  • Lovejoy1984
    Tyus was the pick, but trading him to Minny for 31-36.
  • Ytowngirlinfla
    Traded to Minnesota
  • superman
    Windhorst saying traded to Minny. So it might happen.
  • GOONx19
    wildcats20;1737344 wrote:Draft Tyus and then send him to Minny for 31 and 36.
    Good call.
  • se-alum
    What's the point in getting the 31st & 36th picks?
  • ZWICK 4 PREZ
    se-alum;1737352 wrote:What's the point in getting the 31st & 36th picks?
    Save salary? Bout the only thing I can think of.
  • robj55
    Non guaranteed contracts right?
  • wildcats20
    GOONx19;1737351 wrote:Good call.
    I'm only following along on Twitter. So Woj had it long before it was announced.
  • se-alum
    robj55;1737355 wrote:Non guaranteed contracts right?
    #31 would still be a guaranteed contract.
  • Ytowngirlinfla
    robj55;1737355 wrote:Non guaranteed contracts right?
    NVM.

    Just checked but doesn't count against the cap?
  • sleeper
    se-alum;1737352 wrote:What's the point in getting the 31st & 36th picks?
    1st round picks are guaranteed a contract. Nothing is guaranteed for 2nd round picks.
  • sleeper
    se-alum;1737358 wrote:#31 would still be a guaranteed contract.
    No.
  • Lovejoy1984
    Wouldn't be surprised to see the Cavs make a couple more trades tonight.