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  • Commander of Awesome
    We also have interest in Durrant. Like Sleeper said, highly HIGHLY doubt he comes to Cleveland, no bad how lbj wants him.
  • j_crazy
    SportsAndLady;1737165 wrote:I just did a Google search and found nothing about him signing one year deals or about how that could maximize his income.

    Also read a Miami sun time article titled "love opts out of contract and lebron James doesn't want him back."

    Jesus what kind of hack journalism bullshit is that?

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/lebron-james-going-keep-signing-171405013.html;_ylt=A0LEVxai4pJV0KEA9uVXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyM3V1dWMzBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjAzOTVfMQRzZWMDc3I-


    Bird Rights and the new CBA net him $110 more over the next seven years if he signs a 1 yr deal this year and next. the real question is would the Cavs give him 5 years and $202 when he's 33. I ask that because he's had some really tough miles put on that body, seriously gets pummeled like every play.
  • sleeper
    j_crazy;1738035 wrote:http://finance.yahoo.com/news/lebron-james-going-keep-signing-171405013.html;_ylt=A0LEVxai4pJV0KEA9uVXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyM3V1dWMzBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjAzOTVfMQRzZWMDc3I-


    Bird Rights and the new CBA net him $110 more over the next seven years if he signs a 1 yr deal this year and next. the real question is would the Cavs give him 5 years and $202 when he's 33. I ask that because he's had some really tough miles put on that body, seriously gets pummeled like every play.
    The answer is yes.
  • MontyBrunswick
    j_crazy;1738035 wrote:http://finance.yahoo.com/news/lebron-james-going-keep-signing-171405013.html;_ylt=A0LEVxai4pJV0KEA9uVXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyM3V1dWMzBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjAzOTVfMQRzZWMDc3I-


    Bird Rights and the new CBA net him $110 more over the next seven years if he signs a 1 yr deal this year and next. the real question is would the Cavs give him 5 years and $202 when he's 33. I ask that because he's had some really tough miles put on that body, seriously gets pummeled like every play.
    $202 over five years is pretty lousy money. Even I make more than that and I work at the golf course mowing grass.
  • sportswizuhrd
    Cavs and Spurs working on a trade for Haywood's contract, so the Spurs can get Aldridge, I would assume.

    The trade would look something like this...

    Haywood for Mills and Splitter or Diaw.

    I would take it. Diaw can play the 3,4 and the 5. I don't think I would take Splitter as a third string 5, but with Varejao, you might want insurance. Mills gives you that solid backup. Any combination of the three give you championship experience that wouldn't rot on the bench.
  • Commander of Awesome
    That would be an epic deal
  • sleeper
    sportswizuhrd;1738048 wrote:Cavs and Spurs working on a trade for Haywood's contract, so the Spurs can get Aldridge, I would assume.

    The trade would look something like this...

    Haywood for Mills and Splitter or Diaw.

    I would take it. Diaw can play the 3,4 and the 5. I don't think I would take Splitter as a third string 5, but with Varejao, you might want insurance. Mills gives you that solid backup. Any combination of the three give you championship experience that wouldn't rot on the bench.
    I have no faith in Varejao anymore so I like this trade. Mills also provides a little 3-point shooting and guard depth although I don't think he is the solution for buying minutes for Irving.
  • Lovejoy1984
    sportswizuhrd;1738048 wrote:Cavs and Spurs working on a trade for Haywood's contract, so the Spurs can get Aldridge, I would assume.

    The trade would look something like this...

    Haywood for Mills and Splitter or Diaw.

    I would take it. Diaw can play the 3,4 and the 5. I don't think I would take Splitter as a third string 5, but with Varejao, you might want insurance. Mills gives you that solid backup. Any combination of the three give you championship experience that wouldn't rot on the bench.
    Ideally the Cavs would then move Splitter/Diaw to another team for a younger SF.
  • sleeper
    HighRoller74;1738053 wrote:Ideally the Cavs would then move Splitter/Diaw to another team for a younger SF.
    Ideally yes. We have a lot of back court depth but low on wing players. When the Cavs build this team for the next 4-5 years of Lebron's peak career, they are going to need a SF that can buy minutes for Lebron during the regular season. I still expect Lebron to get mid-season vacations from a 'lingering injury' like he did last year.
  • Lovejoy1984
    As he should. I'd advocate that for Love and Kyrie as well. Stagger each of them throughout the 2nd half of the year.
  • Commander of Awesome
    HighRoller74;1738053 wrote:Ideally the Cavs would then move Splitter/Diaw to another team for a younger SF.
    Disagree. I'd keep Splitter/Diaw. Bigs are like pitching, can't have enough. When Anderson goes down 22 games into the season, we're left with Moz as the only true 5. Diaw can play some 3 on offense, TT can guard some 3 on Def. Then have Moz/Splitter or Moz/Diaw to play some 5. Try like hell to move JR for SF backup.
  • Commander of Awesome
  • sleeper
    Commander of Awesome;1738063 wrote:Disagree. I'd keep Splitter/Diaw. Bigs are like pitching, can't have enough. When Anderson goes down 22 games into the season, we're left with Moz as the only true 5. Diaw can play some 3 on offense, TT can guard some 3 on Def. Then have Moz/Splitter or Moz/Diaw to play some 5. Try like hell to move JR for SF backup.
    Disagree with this. Cavs didn't lose because of lack of bigs; they lost because of lack of talent depth. When you have 8 players out of 15 that straight up are hurt(Love, Varejao, Irving) or simply can't play(Marion, Miller, Haywood, Perkins, Harris), you aren't going to win a championship. Cavs need overall depth at every position and shouldn't throw away their one big piece for 2 PF/C on a team that already has plenty of PF/C. We need wing and PG depth badly.

    The backup PG is Delly(love him, but he lacks talent) and the backup SF is James Jones(LOL) and Mike Miller(Bigger LOL), but no let's add more PF/C because Love, TT, Mozgov, and Varejao isn't enough. Remember you only get 15 players on a roster and currently the Cavs have 7 of those roster spots for PF/C.
  • Commander of Awesome
    Mozgov is our only legit center on the roster. TT can't really play it.
  • sleeper
    Commander of Awesome;1738066 wrote:Mozgov is our only legit center on the roster. TT can't really play it.
    Legit centers don't win championships anymore. This isn't the early 2000's with Shaq carrying Kobe Bryant to championships. When's the last time a Center carried a team to a championship? Gasol with the Lakers? It's the exception, not the rule in today's NBA.
  • like_that
    Commander of Awesome;1738064 wrote:
    I hope Dolan is taking notes.
  • Commander of Awesome
    sleeper;1738069 wrote:Legit centers don't win championships anymore. This isn't the early 2000's with Shaq carrying Kobe Bryant to championships. When's the last time a Center carried a team to a championship? Gasol with the Lakers? It's the exception, not the rule in today's NBA.
    Duncan/Splitter and Spurs
  • sleeper
    Commander of Awesome;1738072 wrote:Duncan/Splitter and Spurs
    Yeah Duncan is a legit center. :RpS_lol:

    But yeah way to prove my point. Exception, not the rule. This ain't the 80's bro.
  • Commander of Awesome
    sleeper;1738073 wrote:Yeah Duncan is a legit center. :RpS_lol:

    But yeah way to prove my point. Exception, not the rule. This ain't the 80's bro.
    I'd say heat/gsw are the exception bro

    Hell LBJ would have been able to rest with KI/Love. LBJ to bench, KI/Love can run the offense. Pwning their def with Splitter/Diaw. EZ
  • MontyBrunswick
    ESPN says the Cavs & LeBron are eyeballing Dunleavy.

    What is LeBron's deal with washed-up, white, one-dimensional players?
  • Benny The Jet
    MontyBrunswick;1738082 wrote:ESPN says the Cavs & LeBron are eyeballing Dunleavy.

    What is LeBron's deal with washed-up, white, one-dimensional players?
    With what the Cavs are able to do this offseason with limited cash, he'd be an upgrade to the bench for sure. Dunleavy> Jones, Miller, Marion.
  • Commander of Awesome
    Benny The Jet;1738089 wrote:With what the Cavs are able to do this offseason with limited cash, he'd be an upgrade to the bench for sure. Dunleavy> Jones, Miller, Marion.
    Doubt he's taking the MLE which is all we have to offer.
  • BR1986FB
    Commander of Awesome;1738092 wrote:Doubt he's taking the MLE which is all we have to offer.
    Same with Mo Williams. They keep talking about "mutual interest" but will he take the MLE?
  • Lovejoy1984
    Mo Will probably be a Vet min. guy, same with Dunleavy. Both only made around $3.5m last season, and each are a year older, which means offers will drop.

    Veteran Min deals for both would be around $1.3m, so they could probably make more else where, but not too much more.
  • sleeper
    HighRoller74;1738099 wrote:Mo Will probably be a Vet min. guy, same with Dunleavy. Both only made around $3.5m last season, and each are a year older, which means offers will drop.

    Veteran Min deals for both would be around $1.3m, so they could probably make more else where, but not too much more.
    I am fairly certain you can sign any player to the vet minimum regardless of cap situation.