Cleveland Cavaliers Offseason Thread 2013
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like_that
I said it then and I will still say it now, lbj was a ***** that series. He would just stay at the top of the key and wait until the shot clock expired before taking a long/mid range shot. Somehow he let bitch boy Howard in his head and was too much of a puss to be rejected by him.Commander of Awesome;1518958 wrote:Keep in mind in 2009 we won the first 2 matchups 4-0. We were 8-0 heading into the series against Orlando.
2010 Game 1 against the Celtics, Mo Williams up 20 pts, 5 reb, 6 ast, and 1 steal with only 1 TO while shooting 57%.
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BR1986FB
Someone got into Lebron's head?like_that;1518959 wrote:I said it then and I will still say it now, lbj was a ***** that series. He would just stay at the top of the key and wait until the shot clock expired before taking a long/mid range shot. Somehow he let bitch boy Howard in his head and was too much of a puss to be rejected by him.
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robj55
What about games 2-5 though? I'm not saying you're wrong but I remember that no one on the team could really hit anything from outside, and with the way the team was built that led to their demise. If Lebron had his post mentality that he used in the OKC series and beyond he could have maybe helped them overcome the shooting woes, but he wasn't there as a player yet.Commander of Awesome;1518958 wrote:Keep in mind in 2009 we won the first 2 matchups 4-0. We were 8-0 heading into the series against Orlando.
2010 Game 1 against the Celtics, Mo Williams up 20 pts, 5 reb, 6 ast, and 1 steal with only 1 TO while shooting 57%.
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robj55
How much of that is on coaching though? LBJ certainly deserves some of the blame as though he did have a pretty great series overall, not when it counted. Mike Brown deserves some of the blame for never making adjustments and putting his players(namely Lebron) in a better position to succeed. He's not a good offensive coach and it has shown over his time in the NBA.like_that;1518959 wrote:I said it then and I will still say it now, lbj was a ***** that series. He would just stay at the top of the key and wait until the shot clock expired before taking a long/mid range shot. Somehow he let bitch boy Howard in his head and was too much of a puss to be rejected by him. -
like_that
lol yeah, Lebron being a puss clearly was Mike Brown's fault, even though all year Lebron was taking it to the rim. You are reaching with your blind love of lebron.robj55;1518991 wrote:How much of that is on coaching though? LBJ certainly deserves some of the blame as though he did have a pretty great series overall, not when it counted. Mike Brown deserves some of the blame for never making adjustments and putting his players(namely Lebron) in a better position to succeed. He's not a good offensive coach and it has shown over his time in the NBA. -
Commander of Awesome
"He quit," Gilbert said. "Not just in Game 5, but in Games 2, 4 and 6. Watch the tape. The Boston series was unlike anything in the history of sports for a superstar."
The Cavaliers were beaten by 32 points in Game 5. During the game, James appeared distracted and uninterested, often glaring at Cleveland's coaches as the Cavs tried to foul to get back into the game in the second half. James also made some puzzling postgame comments, saying he had "spoiled" people with his play over seven seasons.
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like_that
It was mike brown's faultCommander of Awesome;1519010 wrote:"He quit," Gilbert said. "Not just in Game 5, but in Games 2, 4 and 6. Watch the tape. The Boston series was unlike anything in the history of sports for a superstar."
The Cavaliers were beaten by 32 points in Game 5. During the game, James appeared distracted and uninterested, often glaring at Cleveland's coaches as the Cavs tried to foul to get back into the game in the second half. James also made some puzzling postgame comments, saying he had "spoiled" people with his play over seven seasons.
^ Yup, quitter
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Pick6
ok im going to be 'that guy'...can we please take the Lebron talk to a new thread?
As for Earl Clark, I'm probably wrong because I don't follow the Lakers closely, but didn't most of his "hype" come from just a good stretch of games (similar to Lin, but not as good obviously)? -
BR1986FB
Sorry. Figured it was pertinent since the Cavs were brought up in the conversation. Mods can feel free to move it to the general NBA forum if they need to.Pick6;1519012 wrote:ok im going to be 'that guy'...can we please take the Lebron talk to a new thread?
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robj55
Playoff defenses are way different than regular season ones, that's a fact. I'm not eliminating Lebron from blame, he deserves a large portion of it. But they weren't creative in finding ways for him to the get the ball and be more effective, anyone who watched that series knows that.like_that;1519005 wrote:lol yeah, Lebron being a puss clearly was Mike Brown's fault, even though all year Lebron was taking it to the rim. You are reaching with your blind love of lebron. -
robj55
I never said that, you're taking a piece of the statement I made and running with it. I said he is a lousy offensive coach, which he is, and that he didn't make any adjustments.like_that;1519011 wrote:It was mike brown's fault
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like_that
I watched that whole series, along with the previous two series (they went 8-0). Lebron went from fearless leader, to a puss who didn't want to be rejected by Howard. Spin it all you want, but Lebron shit down his leg that series. He rose to the occasion for the heat, and simply shit down his leg for the cavs. That's the difference between the 2013 heat and the 2009/2010 Cavs.robj55;1519086 wrote:Playoff defenses are way different than regular season ones, that's a fact. I'm not eliminating Lebron from blame, he deserves a large portion of it. But they weren't creative in finding ways for him to the get the ball and be more effective, anyone who watched that series knows that. -
robj55
I thought we were talking about the Celtics series? Lebron averaged 39,8 and 8 in the Orlando series, they lost that series because they couldn't defend the high ball screen and got torched from the three point line. My previous comments were based on the Celtic series in 2010.like_that;1519089 wrote:I watched that whole series, along with the previous two series (they went 8-0). Lebron went from fearless leader, to a puss who didn't want to be rejected by Howard. Spin it all you want, but Lebron shit down his leg that series. He rose to the occasion for the heat, and simply shit down his leg for the cavs. That's the difference between the 2013 heat and the 2009/2010 Cavs. -
sleeper
He definitely quit. It was a joke of a series and Lebron barely tried.Commander of Awesome;1519010 wrote:"He quit," Gilbert said. "Not just in Game 5, but in Games 2, 4 and 6. Watch the tape. The Boston series was unlike anything in the history of sports for a superstar."
The Cavaliers were beaten by 32 points in Game 5. During the game, James appeared distracted and uninterested, often glaring at Cleveland's coaches as the Cavs tried to foul to get back into the game in the second half. James also made some puzzling postgame comments, saying he had "spoiled" people with his play over seven seasons.
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Pick6
seems Bynum is making some good progress
http://www.ohio.com/blogs/cleveland-cavaliers/cleveland-cavaliers-1.275356/andrew-bynum-down-to-his-playing-weight-inching-closer-to-return-1.437699 -
wes_mantooth
I heard an interesting question the other night on KNR. Would Indy have been better off trading that number 1 overall pick to the Browns for their entire draft (since that was rumored to be on the table)? Would 3-5 more years of Peyton and all those picks been worth giving up on the next "big thing"? I thought it was interesting just because with Peyton, they may have been the odds on favorite to win it this year. Also, the Browns would obviously been screwed since that meant no Trent or no Brandon...lol -
Pick6
wrong threadwes_mantooth;1520711 wrote:I heard an interesting question the other night on KNR. Would Indy have been better off trading that number 1 overall pick to the Browns for their entire draft (since that was rumored to be on the table)? Would 3-5 more years of Peyton and all those picks been worth giving up on the next "big thing"? I thought it was interesting just because with Peyton, they may have been the odds on favorite to win it this year. Also, the Browns would obviously been screwed since that meant no Trent or no Brandon...lol
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wes_mantooth
Lol...my bad.Pick6;1520718 wrote:wrong thread -
Commander of Awesome
Think weeden can call up TT and learn how to throw lefty?
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wes_mantooth
Maybe we should just have one Cleveland thread...a mash of sadness
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robj55
How's the progress with Bynum? Any word when he'll be back?
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Pick6
see post #835. Seems to be ahead of schedule. Participating in 3 on 3 practice drillsrobj55;1520958 wrote:How's the progress with Bynum? Any word when he'll be back? -
robj55
No set timetable?Pick6;1520959 wrote:see post #835. Seems to be ahead of schedule. Participating in 3 on 3 practice drills -
Pick6
I dont think there has ever been a real 'timetable'. They are being extra cautious with him and rightfully so.robj55;1520963 wrote:No set timetable? -
Commander of Awesome
