2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread
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Commander of Awesome
You're joking, this is pretty funny.shook_17;1047096 wrote:Ggimme hue jackson as OC -
SportsAndLady
lhslep134;1047223 wrote:A couple of guys I wouldn't mind the Browns targeting are U of A's Juron Criner and Nick Foles. Foles has great footwork and an NFL arm and can make all the throws, and Criner has special ability, but the team was terrible this year due to 5 new offensive linemen, a terrible defense, and inability to run the football.
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Mulva
[LEFT]Blackmon's dominant performance in the Fiesta Bowl put to rest any notion he benefits from Oklahoma State's wide-open offense.
I don't really get that.
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Pick6
me eitherMulva;1047472 wrote:[LEFT]
I don't really get that.
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shook_17
lol did it sound like im joking? no. thanks though!Commander of Awesome;1047318 wrote:You're joking, this is pretty funny. -
lhslep134
Well Nick Foles is Kiper's 3rd best QB and Criner was a 2nd team All-American last year before dealing with some on and off the field issued this year and still delivered 11 tds.SportsAndLady;1047339 wrote:Bias much?
As much as it seems like bias, these were the only 2 legit prospects (besides Vassalo) on an otherwise terrible team. Watch this video on Criner you may be impressed.
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SportsAndLady
lhslep134;1047770 wrote:Well Nick Foles is Kiper's 3rd best QB and Criner was a 2nd team All-American last year before dealing with some on and off the field issued this year and still delivered 11 tds.
As much as it seems like bias, these were the only 2 legit prospects (besides Vassalo) on an otherwise terrible team. Watch this video on Criner you may be impressed.
[video=youtube;onSTDBS38W8][/video]
Kid I work with graduated from zona he was talking up criner so we looked up the first mock draft we could find with all rounds listed and he was in the seventh round lol I mean okay sure if we wanna take him there. -
lhslep134
Hey, all I said was we should target them, not necessarily which round lol. I think ESPN had him as their #13 WR, which should dictate 5th-undrafted status? All I know is he has big time leaping/catching ability, and at the very least is worth a look.SportsAndLady;1047780 wrote:Kid I work with graduated from zona he was talking up criner so we looked up the first mock draft we could find with all rounds listed and he was in the seventh round lol I mean okay sure if we wanna take him there. -
SportsAndLady
lhslep134;1047789 wrote:Hey, all I said was we should target them, not necessarily which round lol. I think ESPN had him as their #13 WR, which should dictate 5th-undrafted status? All I know is he has big time leaping/catching ability, and at the very least is worth a look.
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SonofanumpMost all of the mock drafts have Kahlil going either 2nd or 3rd.
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BR1986FBScottPetrak Scott Petrak
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports # Browns DB coach Jerome Henderson leaving
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BR1986FBHmmmm....interesting....
[LEFT]QBs make WRS; WRs do not make QBs
All of which brings us to the elephant in the room in Atlanta's 2011 post-mortem of pigskin: Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan simply can't get it done.
He's consistently had trouble getting the ball downfield throughout his career, and has now played poorly in three straight playoff games. In fact, Ryan has statistically stagnated somewhere well below mediocre in his three postseason games, all losses: 72.8 rating in the 2008 playoffs; 69.0 rating in the 2010 playoffs; and 71.1 rating here in the 2011 playoffs.
It doesn't matter how many so-called "weapons" you put around a quarterback. The Shiny Hood Ornament Man Law tells us that quarterbacks make wide receivers, not the other way around. And right now we have four years of evidence saying that Ryan is not good enough to make his receivers better.
In either case, executives and coaches who are unaware of the Shiny Hood Ornament Man Law are like physicists are unaware of Newton's Laws of Motion. They have no business being in the field and need to find another line of work.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/kerry_byrne/01/10/julio.jones.trade/index.html#ixzz1j9mZCXgt[/LEFT] -
GOONx19
BR1986FB;1047892 wrote:ScottPetrak Scott Petrak
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports # Browns DB coach Jerome Henderson leaving
for Dallas to reunite with DC Rob Ryan. Players liked Henderson.
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Commander of Awesome
He's much better than I ever thought he'd be, but lot living up to expectations after having decent seasons. He's a completely different QB away from the home dome.BR1986FB;1047989 wrote:Hmmmm....interesting....
[LEFT]QBs make WRS; WRs do not make QBs
All of which brings us to the elephant in the room in Atlanta's 2011 post-mortem of pigskin: Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan simply can't get it done.
He's consistently had trouble getting the ball downfield throughout his career, and has now played poorly in three straight playoff games. In fact, Ryan has statistically stagnated somewhere well below mediocre in his three postseason games, all losses: 72.8 rating in the 2008 playoffs; 69.0 rating in the 2010 playoffs; and 71.1 rating here in the 2011 playoffs.
It doesn't matter how many so-called "weapons" you put around a quarterback. The Shiny Hood Ornament Man Law tells us that quarterbacks make wide receivers, not the other way around. And right now we have four years of evidence saying that Ryan is not good enough to make his receivers better.
In either case, executives and coaches who are unaware of the Shiny Hood Ornament Man Law are like physicists are unaware of Newton's Laws of Motion. They have no business being in the field and need to find another line of work.
Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/kerry_byrne/01/10/julio.jones.trade/index.html#ixzz1j9mZCXgt[/LEFT] -
buckeyes_wooweeBrowns should give Raheem Morris a call to replace Henderson
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royal_k
Pretty impressive video. Showed good hands, good burst, and the ability to go up and fight for the ball. There's no way he goes undrafted. I'd say no later than the 5th round, unless his issues you spoke of scare teams away. The Browns need play makers. They should take a look at this guy.lhslep134;1047789 wrote:Hey, all I said was we should target them, not necessarily which round lol. I think ESPN had him as their #13 WR, which should dictate 5th-undrafted status? All I know is he has big time leaping/catching ability, and at the very least is worth a look. -
BR1986FBInteresting comments on both RG3 and Kolb in this ....
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/01/cleveland_browns_draft_project_1.html -
royal_k
Kolb would make a lot of sense if he became available. And he looked very good in his games played in Philly.BR1986FB;1048221 wrote:Interesting comments on both RG3 and Kolb in this ....
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/01/cleveland_browns_draft_project_1.html -
like_that
I would def be happy if we somehow got Kolb before the draft. That would give Heckert/Holmgren many options heading into the draft imo. -
Commander of Awesome
I went scouting on the AZ forums and they seem to think KK has a concussion problem and one away from retirement.
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BR1986FB
LOL...When did McCoy play 'at a high level" (first article) this past season? He impressed me in 2010 but, outside of the game winning drive vs Miami, he was just "meh."
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BR1986FB
Perfect fit for the Browns. Sign him! He could be Holmgren's Jeremiah Pharms. :rolleyes:Commander of Awesome;1048299 wrote:I went scouting on the AZ forums and they seem to think KK has a concussion problem and one away from retirement. -
like_that
Who would you take Flynn or Kolb?BR1986FB;1048302 wrote:LOL...When did McCoy play 'at a high level" (first article) this past season? He impressed me in 2010 but, outside of the game winning drive vs Miami, he was just "meh." -
BR1986FB
Of those two I see more upside in Flynn.like_that;1048308 wrote:Who would you take Flynn or Kolb?