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  • bases_loaded
    QB ratings from college.

    Cousins 147(145 senior year)
    Flynn 132(125 senior year)
  • bases_loaded
    Commander of Awesome;1046832 wrote:That's your opinion, I disagree.

    Now that I've provided stats,it should say Cousins WAS not looked
  • Commander of Awesome
    bases_loaded;1046835 wrote:QB ratings from college.

    Cousins 147(145 senior year)
    Flynn 132(125 senior year)
    Cool. Now compare Boise St QB and the Texas Tech QB from when Crabbtree was there and tell me how they did in the NFL.
  • Commander of Awesome
    http://chrissteuber.com/steuberbigboard.html
  • bases_loaded
    Commander of Awesome;1046840 wrote:Cool. Now compare Boise St QB and the Texas Tech QB from when Crabbtree was there and tell me how they did in the NFL.

    Because Michigan State runs the spread and plays in the WAC
  • bases_loaded
    Commander of Awesome;1046840 wrote:Cool. Now compare Boise St QB and the Texas Tech QB from when Crabbtree was there and tell me how they did in the NFL.

    Kellen Moore graduates this year
  • royal_k
    bases_loaded;1046829 wrote:Cousins looks better in college than Flynn ever did.
    I would agree with this. He's better than a lot of you think.
  • bases_loaded
    royal_k;1046870 wrote:I would agree with this. He's better than a lot of you think.

    He's been starting QB for what, 3? 4? years?? In an NFL system
  • Commander of Awesome
    bases_loaded;1046878 wrote:He's been starting QB for what, 3? 4? years?? In an NFL system
    I know, and has been terrible to borderline mediocre every single one of them. Not to mention a total choke artist. I haven't seen anyone throw more idiotic INTs since Derek Anderson.

    He'll be lucky to be a back up in the NFL and doubt he'll ever be a good NFL starter.
  • hangonsloopy
    http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2012/01/grossi-kevin-kolb-would-top-browns-wish-list-upon-release/
  • Commander of Awesome
    Eh I don't see him being available.
  • SportsAndLady
    Commander of Awesome;1046817 wrote:What is up with these\ QBs not wanting to come out?
    Cuz they gettin paid

    It aint rocket science.
  • bases_loaded
    Commander of Awesome;1046895 wrote:I know, and has been terrible to borderline mediocre every single one of them. Not to mention a total choke artist. I haven't seen anyone throw more idiotic INTs since Derek Anderson.

    He'll be lucky to be a back up in the NFL and doubt he'll ever be a good NFL starter.

    Yes a career 147 QB rating means he's terrible.
  • like_that
    lol @ citing QB ratings let alone college QB ratings as your argument.
  • lhslep134
    Cousins was a better college passer than Flynn but that doesn't mean that Flynn's develop up to this point is less than what Cousins could develop into. It's a crapshoot if you take a QB after the first round.

    Give me T-Rich at #4. He is going to be an elite running back.
  • bases_loaded
    What does a QB rating do?
  • Commander of Awesome
    lhslep134;1046988 wrote:It's a crapshoot if you take a QB after the first round.
    I think its a crapshoot regardless of round.
  • like_that
    lhslep134;1046988 wrote:Cousins was a better college passer than Flynn but that doesn't mean that Flynn's develop up to this point is less than what Cousins could develop into. It's a crapshoot if you take a QB after the first round.

    Give me T-Rich at #4. He is going to be an elite running back.
    Yeah, we def need to reach and waste our 4th overall pick on a RB, especially when that RB would drop to the bottom half of the first round /sarcasm
  • lhslep134
    Commander of Awesome;1046990 wrote:I think its a crapshoot regardless of round.
    That's true.
  • bases_loaded
    If Blackmon is gone and you can't move down, you take Claiborne. CB is taken care of for next 6 years and so is the return game.
  • lhslep134
    like_that;1046991 wrote:Yeah, we def need to reach and waste our 4th overall pick on a RB, especially when that RB would drop to the bottom half of the first round /sarcasm
    You don't think teams are regretting letting Peterson slip to 7th? Just because you think he's going to slip doesn't mean he should/doesn't mean he won't be elite.
  • SportsAndLady
    lhslep134;1046999 wrote:You don't think teams are regretting letting Peterson slip to 7th? Just because you think he's going to slip doesn't mean he should/doesn't mean he won't be elite.
    And waht have the Vikings ever won with AP? RB's aren't pivotal to success, a QB and WR's are.

    There's a reason Trent has dropped to the 21st pick in the latest mock draft.
  • like_that
    lhslep134;1046999 wrote:You don't think teams are regretting letting Peterson slip to 7th? Just because you think he's going to slip doesn't mean he should/doesn't mean he won't be elite.
    I have provided my stance on RBs numerous times. They are dime a dozen. You don't need a first round RB in order to find an elite/successful RB. Hillis is a 7th rd pick, Arian Foster was undrafted, etc etc. The best RB in the game (AP), has gotten the Vikings what? 7 wins in the past 2 years?

    I would not be happy with Richardson at 4, especially when we have much bigger needs, and RB is the easiest to figure out.
  • BR1986FB
    like_that;1046991 wrote:Yeah, we def need to reach and waste our 4th overall pick on a RB, especially when that RB would drop to the bottom half of the first round /sarcasm
    +1
  • BR1986FB
    SportsAndLady;1047002 wrote:And waht have the Vikings ever won with AP? RB's aren't pivotal to success, a QB and WR's are.

    There's a reason Trent has dropped to the 21st pick in the latest mock draft.
    +2