2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread
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bases_loaded
Kirk Cousins in the 4th or 5th to develop around a fa stop gap -
Commander of Awesome
I just think the price to get Flynn will be pretty high. I would anticipate the Packers franchising him if they think they can trade him. -
BR1986FB
That's risky. If nobody pays their price they are stuck with a $16 million cap hit when Aaron Rodgers is making about half that.Commander of Awesome;1046684 wrote:I just think the price to get Flynn will be pretty high. I would anticipate the Packers franchising him if they think they can trade him.
And NO MORE friggin "stopgap" QB's. I think Holmgren learned his lesson with Delhomme. We've seen enough of the Delhomme's, Garcia's, etc. Get a young guy worth building around and move forward. -
bases_loaded
With weapons a stop gap still makes you competitive. See Houston. Hell colt could be that stop gap for cousins
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Commander of Awesome
That's what I'm afraid of, I dont think Holmgren has learned his lesson.BR1986FB;1046691 wrote: And NO MORE friggin "stopgap" QB's. I think Holmgren learned his lesson with Delhomme. We've seen enough of the Delhomme's, Garcia's, etc. Get a young guy worth building around and move forward. -
bases_loaded
It's a 3 year project, were in year 1.5...chill out.
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BR1986FB
It's like friggin Groundhog Day...bring in a shitty stopgap, he fails, rinse, repeat. The only time they've pulled the trigger on what could've been thought was a somewhat legit franchise QB was when they drafted Couch. The Quinn selection was dicey at best.bases_loaded;1046728 wrote:It's a 3 year project, were in year 1.5...chill out.
Would rather see a young guy, with upside, brought in than an over the hill (see Jason Campbell) QB on his last legs. -
like_that
Agreed, it seems like he is insisting on molding an unheralded QB, since he did it with 2 QBs. The only difference is he was coaching when he molded the QBs, this time around he has patty boy who would have to try and mold the next QB.Commander of Awesome;1046721 wrote:That's what I'm afraid of, I dont think Holmgren has learned his lesson. -
BR1986FB
That's why I've thought Flynn could be his target. Fits a similar bill to Hasselbeck & Favre. A stopgap wouldn't really be someone he'd "mold/groom."like_that;1046743 wrote:Agreed, it seems like he is insisting on molding an unheralded QB, since he did it with 2 QBs. The only difference is he was coaching when he molded the QBs, this time around he has patty boy who would have to try and mold the next QB. -
bases_loaded
BR1986FB;1046742 wrote:It's like friggin Groundhog Day...bring in a ****ty stopgap, he fails, rinse, repeat. The only time they've pulled the trigger on what could've been thought was a somewhat legit franchise QB was when they drafted Couch. The Quinn selection was dicey at best.
Would rather see a young guy, with upside, brought in than an over the hill (see Jason Campbell) QB on his last legs.
Year one: take care of defense. Check
Year two: take care if offense. April
Year three:fill in holes. Next year -
BR1986FB
With three teams in the division already in the playoffs, they might want to expedite this process.bases_loaded;1046758 wrote:Year one: take care of defense. Check
Year two: take care if offense. April
Year three:fill in holes. Next year -
like_that
Looks like RGIII coming out isn't for sure certain. http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7443615/robert-griffin-iii-meets-baylor-bears-coach-nfl-decision-nears
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BR1986FB
First Barkley, now maybe this? Looks like nobody wants to play for the Browns.like_that;1046785 wrote:Looks like RGIII coming out isn't for sure certain. http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7443615/robert-griffin-iii-meets-baylor-bears-coach-nfl-decision-nears
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bases_loaded
BR1986FB;1046781 wrote:With three teams in the division already in the playoffs, they might want to expedite this process.
When your prior regime drafted 3 busts in the second round,its hard to expedite the process. Unless of course you want a bunch of stop gaps -
BR1986FB
If they deem Flynn their franchise QB, he wouldn't be a stopgap.bases_loaded;1046801 wrote:When your prior regime drafted 3 busts in the second round,its hard to expedite the process. Unless of course you want a bunch of stop gaps -
bases_loaded
I agree. My scenario of drafting Cousins is for when Washington and Miami outbid us of flynn. This off season and draft will adress the offense.
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Commander of Awesome
What is up with these\ QBs not wanting to come out? Seems dumb to me to play another year again and risk injury for Free. Plus staying another year almost never works in their favor see Leinhart. Luck stayed and was still the #1 pick, same with Bradford. Just don't see the benefit. Gotta leave the nest pussies.
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Commander of Awesome
Watching Cousins for most of his career, he's trash.bases_loaded;1046810 wrote:I agree. My scenario of drafting Cousins is for when Washington and Miami outbid us of flynn. This off season and draft will adress the offense. -
wes_mantooth
Cousins is awful...I wouldn't take him if he was an unsigned free agent -
bases_loaded
Commander of Awesome;1046819 wrote:Watching Cousins for most of his career, he's trash.
So was Matt Flynn -
Commander of Awesome
I agree completely.wes_mantooth;1046820 wrote:Cousins is awful...I wouldn't take him if he was an unsigned free agent -
Commander of Awesome
In comparison to Cousins?bases_loaded;1046822 wrote:So was Matt Flynn -
bases_loaded
Cousins looks better in college than Flynn ever did.
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Commander of Awesome
That's your opinion, I disagree.bases_loaded;1046829 wrote:Cousins looks better in college than Flynn ever did. -
BR1986FB
Afraid the Browns would draft them.Commander of Awesome;1046817 wrote:What is up with these\ QBs not wanting to come out? Seems dumb to me to play another year again and risk injury for Free. Plus staying another year almost never works in their favor see Leinhart. Luck stayed and was still the #1 pick, same with Bradford. Just don't see the benefit. Gotta leave the nest pussies.