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  • Hb31187
    thedynasty1998;1015371 wrote:He will argue whatever I say. It's comical. Paul is the 2nd best defensive PG in the NBA and can easily slide over to guard a 2 guard. It's not even up for debate. He's proven it.
    Paul could guard a few 2 guards, but if you put him on most 2 guards for an entire game theyd abuse him. Hes quick and has quick hands but he doesnt have the size to really match up with most NBA 2 guards. Hes good at getting steals but its not like hes Gary Payton
  • Hb31187
    thedynasty1998;1015375 wrote:I don't know the answer, but how many shot attempts did he have?
    Averaged around 20, some games a little mroe some games a little less
  • Pick6
    wildcats20;1015370 wrote:SMH

    NO ONE SAID THEY AREN'T GOOD DEFENDERS.
    Sorry... "average" was the word used. Those two aren't average defenders.
  • robj55
    thedynasty1998;1015375 wrote:I don't know the answer, but how many shot attempts did he have?
    way too many, and the bulls aren't winning anything until he learns how to be an actual pg
  • Laley23
    LeBron should be an elite defender. Top 2/3 defender in the NBA. No 2 or 3 should be able to score on him. But he is lazy most of the game, unlike say a Ron Artest, Gary Payton, Shane Battier etc, etc. Those guys D you up all game long.

    BTW, I think Gordon is a better defender than Paul...if my opinion is worth anything lol.
  • robj55
    Lebron is the most versatile defender in the world, that alone makes him elite imo.
  • Hb31187
    robj55;1015382 wrote:way too many, and the bulls aren't winning anything until he learns how to be an actual pg
    If he was a pass 1st pg they woudlnt of made it past the first round though lol
  • robj55
    Laley23;1015384 wrote:LeBron should be an elite defender. Top 2/3 defender in the NBA. No 2 or 3 should be able to score on him. But he is lazy most of the game, unlike say a Ron Artest, Gary Payton, Shane Battier etc, etc. Those guys D you up all game long.

    BTW, I think Gordon is a better defender than Paul...if my opinion is worth anything lol.
    Not even close to lazy, you want to see lazy watch Amare or Blake Griffin play. I don't know how many games I watched Blake Griffin not running the floor or getting back on D, I know you watch the Clips so you saw the same thing.
  • robj55
    Hb31187;1015386 wrote:If he was a pass 1st pg they woudlnt of made it past the first round though lol
    Great players make others better though, he's gotta find that medium between scoring and passing, Deron Williams is the best at this and the best pg in the league imo.
  • wildcats20
    robj55;1015387 wrote:Not even close to lazy, you want to see lazy watch Amare or Blake Griffin play, I don't know how many games I watched Blake Griffin not running the floor or getting back on D, I know you watch the Clips so you saw the same thing.
    Bron does the same shit. EVERY star in the League does. Even Dwight Howard, who most consider to be the best defender since sliced bread.
  • robj55
    wildcats20;1015389 wrote:Bron does the same ****. EVERY star in the League does. Even Dwight Howard, who most consider to be the best defender since sliced bread.
    You're right, superstars get a pass.
  • thedynasty1998
    Here is a link to some data on the NBA's best defenders at each respective position:

    http://www.backpicks.com/2011/04/11/the-nbas-top-defenders-in-2011/
  • Pick6
    wildcats20;1015389 wrote:Bron does the same shit. EVERY star in the League does. Even Dwight Howard, who most consider to be the best defender since sliced bread.
    Howard isn't a good defender because he fouls a lot. /COA'd /like_that'd /Hb'd
  • thedynasty1998
    FYI, Lebron's opponents shot 30% from the field last year.
  • Pick6
    thedynasty1998;1015393 wrote:Here is a link to some data on the NBA's best defenders at each respective position:

    http://www.backpicks.com/2011/04/11/the-nbas-top-defenders-in-2011/
    now now...lets not use actual stats in this discussion.
  • Hb31187
    Pick6;1015394 wrote:Howard isn't a good defender because he fouls a lot. /COA'd /like_that'd /Hb'd
    Where did i mention anything about fouls in any of my posts? lol fucking idiot
  • Skyhook79
    thedynasty1998;1015393 wrote:Here is a link to some data on the NBA's best defenders at each respective position:

    http://www.backpicks.com/2011/04/11/the-nbas-top-defenders-in-2011/
    I stopped reading when I saw Mike Millers name and defense listed in the same sentence. Just another stupid formula. smh
  • Pick6
    Hb31187;1015401 wrote:Where did i mention anything about fouls in any of my posts? lol fucking idiot
    you didnt.
  • Hb31187
    Pick6;1015407 wrote:you didnt.
    So why would you randomly bring it up?
  • Crimson streak
    Skyhook79;1015405 wrote:I stopped reading when I saw Mike Millers name and defense listed in the same sentence. Just another stupid formula. smh

    Lol +1 let's find some stupid article that supports my view. If lebron is so elite then how come you let Jason terry whose 7 in smaller than you light you up in the nba finals. Point proven
  • Pick6
    Hb31187;1015409 wrote:So why would you randomly bring it up?
    Because, judging by your evaluations of Paul and Lebron, if one part of your game isnt perfect you aren't a good defender.

    Also, the fact that you think Lebron and CP3 are "average" makes you the "fucking idiot"
  • thedynasty1998
    Skyhook79;1015405 wrote:I stopped reading when I saw Mike Millers name and defense listed in the same sentence. Just another stupid formula. smh
    I laughed when I saw that too. But it's actual data. It's not like I created some formula myself to support my argument. It was the first link after a google search. I actually find it to be fairly well done.

    But sorry for bringing some statistics to the debate. I'll just stick to, "I'm right. You're wrong".
  • Hb31187
    Pick6;1015413 wrote:Because, judging by your evaluations of Paul and Lebron, if one part of your game isnt perfect you aren't a good defender.

    Also, the fact that you think Lebron and CP3 are "average" makes you the "****ing idiot"
    Lol and the fact that you think theyre great simply because they make the nba defensive team is pretty funny as well. The defensive team is a popularity contest, if it wasnt the 1st team would be full of people like Mbah amoute(sp), Battier, Gerald Wallace, Arron Afflalo ect. But its not because its full of stars who get put on the team because of their name
  • Pick6
    Hb31187;1015416 wrote:Lol and the fact that you think theyre great simply because they make the nba defensive team is pretty funny as well. The defensive team is a popularity contest, if it wasnt the 1st team would be full of people like Mbah amoute(sp), Battier, Gerald Wallace, Arron Afflalo ect. But its not because its full of stars who get put on the team because of their name
    Check the link dynasty posted. It has actual stats, no popularity involved.
  • Skyhook79
    thedynasty1998;1015415 wrote:I laughed when I saw that too. But it's actual data. It's not like I created some formula myself to support my argument. It was the first link after a google search. I actually find it to be fairly well done.

    But sorry for bringing some statistics to the debate. I'll just stick to, "I'm right. You're wrong".
    The formula is crap. Sample sizes are so small. Not surprised your impressed by it though. smh