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  • Commander of Awesome
    thedynasty1998;1015298 wrote:You realize I said Paul can guard the 2 guard?
    Not a 2 guard with any height, like say Kobe.
  • Pick6
    Commander of Awesome;1015296 wrote:You realize there is more to basketball than offense right? Love how you add "basically" which means he wasn't but you're going to spin it to your idiotic argument. Cue you're failspn.
    if Mo isnt good enough to guard the 2, Paul can. I hardly ever agree with dynasty but all he is saying is that he can play alongside Paul, which is true.
  • Commander of Awesome
    lol its amazing how Crynasty's idiocy come out when he tries to discuss basketball. Pretty sad consider he played pick up league ball at his local community college.
  • lhslep134
    thedynasty1998;1015297 wrote:Actually 4 did.
    Yeah I had my splits wrong. So 4 did: Love, Howard, Randolph, and his teammate Griffin. Of those, only D12 and Love had more than 12.2.

    To put DeAndre Jordan in that stratosphere doesn't make sense.
  • Commander of Awesome
    Pick6;1015302 wrote:if Mo isnt good enough to guard the 2, Paul can. I hardly ever agree with dynasty but all he is saying is that he can play alongside Paul, which is true.
    Not on defense he can't. I've had the pleasure of watching Mo Williams up close as a Cavs fan, terrible defender and gives up a lot of size to any #2 in the NBA. Trust me, that's not a winning formula.
  • Commander of Awesome
    lhslep134;1015305 wrote:Yeah I had my splits wrong. So 4 did: Love, Howard, Randolph, and his teammate Griffin. Of those, only D12 and Love had more than 12.2.

    To put DeAndre Jordan in that stratosphere doesn't make sense.
    Gotta love Crynasty, even when his own stats smack him in the face, he tries to get you on the technicality card. Might as well just say "I have nothing, I'm an idiot and can't discuss the issue at hand".
  • thedynasty1998
    lhslep134;1015305 wrote:Yeah I had my splits wrong. So 4 did: Love, Howard, Randolph, and his teammate Griffin. Of those, only D12 and Love had more than 12.2.

    To put DeAndre Jordan in that stratosphere doesn't make sense.
    Maybe 13 is a stretch. Maybe not. He will get every opportunity this year, and all they will ask him to do is defend and rebound. Physically, he should be an elite rebounder. My original point was that LAC is set at center, and I believe they are. Playing alongside Paul will only inflate his production.
  • thedynasty1998
    Commander of Awesome;1015306 wrote:Not on defense he can't. I've had the pleasure of watching Mo Williams up close as a Cavs fan, terrible defender and gives up a lot of size to any #2 in the NBA. Trust me, that's not a winning formula.
    Comprehension fail. I will put it simple:
    On defense Mo guards the PG and Paul guards the SG
    On offense Paul is the PG and Williams plays off the ball
  • Laley23
    DeAndre Jordan is too stupid and commits to many fouls to play enough minutes to get to 13 rebounds. He played what 25 minutes a game last year? I watched a lot of Clippers games (EJ is my favorite player) and DeAndre wasnt taken out cause of youth or anything. Its cause he is a retard.
  • Laley23
    Not to mention, I personally find it tough to get that many rebounds when on missed FTs Griffin will take most (cheap boards usually go to the stars, for stats. Sad but true). Then Griffin is so active, he gets most of the offensive rebounds for the Clips. If not most, enough that it will be tough for Jordan to get to 13 a game. Its tough to have 2 guys over 12 a game, and Griffin is simply a better rebounder.
  • wildcats20
    Bulls sign Rip Hamilton. Really good move IMO.
  • thedynasty1998
    Laley23;1015315 wrote:Not to mention, I personally find it tough to get that many rebounds when on missed FTs Griffin will take most (cheap boards usually go to the stars, for stats. Sad but true). Then Griffin is so active, he gets most of the offensive rebounds for the Clips. If not most, enough that it will be tough for Jordan to get to 13 a game. Its tough to have 2 guys over 12 a game, and Griffin is simply a better rebounder.
    That's a good point. But Kaman averaged 7 last year, so from that position they got 14. I just think Jordan will continue to improve and will play 32+ minutes a game this year.
  • thedynasty1998
    wildcats20;1015316 wrote:Bulls sign Rip Hamilton. Really good move IMO.
    Very good addition. He fits their style of play really well.
  • Commander of Awesome
    Def is, he is a number 2 and can guard the number 2. Unlike Chris Paul is an average defender and would love to see him try and guard Kobe while Mo Williams is guarding anybody.
  • robj55
    wildcats20;1015316 wrote:Bulls sign Rip Hamilton. Really good move IMO.
    Twolves sign JJ Barea as well
  • Commander of Awesome
    thedynasty1998;1015319 wrote:That's a good point. But Kaman averaged 7 last year, so from that position they got 14. I just think Jordan will continue to improve and will play 32+ minutes a game this year.
    Kaman was injured and missed a lot of games last season.
  • sleeper
    Clippers got raped if CP3 doesn't sign a long term extension. If he doesn't, say goodbye to Blake Griffin too.
  • Laley23
    thedynasty1998;1015319 wrote:That's a good point. But Kaman averaged 7 last year, so from that position they got 14. I just think Jordan will continue to improve and will play 32+ minutes a game this year.
    Keep in mind Kaman missed a ton of time. What did each average when they played together? I dont even know if that stat exists. But Jordan had some monster games (like pushing 20 boards IIRC) when Kaman was out. But then he also provided us with some duds. I think he is pretty good and a very good rebounder. Id say just under 10 is a good estimate. Id say like 9.7.
  • Pick6
    Commander of Awesome;1015321 wrote:Def is, he is a number 2 and can guard the number 2. Unlike Chris Paul is an average defender and would love to see him try and guard Kobe while Mo Williams is guarding anybody.
    did you just call chris paul an average defender?
  • Commander of Awesome
    Pick6;1015333 wrote:did you just call chris paul an average defender?
    Did you watch CP3 play last season? Reputation is one thing, but after watching him play last season I'd say an avg defender fits the bill. I would wager that to be part of his knee issue, first few yrs in the league he was def a solid defender. Perception was skewed a bit due to his steal numbers, much like Larry Hughes in Washington.
  • Hb31187
    Pick6;1015333 wrote:did you just call chris paul an average defender?
    On ball hes nothign special. Plays the passing lanes well though. Kinda like AI
  • thedynasty1998
    Commander of Awesome;1015321 wrote:Def is, he is a number 2 and can guard the number 2. Unlike Chris Paul is an average defender and would love to see him try and guard Kobe while Mo Williams is guarding anybody.
    Like_that, can you translate this for us?
  • Pick6
    Commander of Awesome;1015334 wrote:Did you watch CP3 play last season?
    He has been first team NBA all-defensive, and 2nd team all defensive twice, including last season. Hardly "average"
  • wildcats20
    Hb31187;1015335 wrote:On ball hes nothign special. Plays the passing lanes well though. Kinda like AI
    Ding, ding.
  • wildcats20
    Pick6;1015337 wrote:He has been first team NBA all-defensive, and 2nd team all defensive twice, including last season. Hardly "average"
    What are your opinions of Kobe as a defender?