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  • Hb31187
    Pick6;1015337 wrote:He has been first team NBA all-defensive, and 2nd team all defensive twice, including last season. Hardly "average"
    So has LBJ, just because he gets flashy blocks. He doesnt play more than average on ball defense. Theres plenty of wings who D up better than LBJ but he still makes the team
  • Pick6
    wildcats20;1015340 wrote:What are your opinions of Kobe as a defender?
    I think Kobe is a good defender when he wants to be. That has nothing to do with this conversation, though.
  • thedynasty1998
    Hb31187;1015342 wrote:So has LBJ, just because he gets flashy blocks. He doesnt play more than average on ball defense. Theres plenty of wings who D up better than LBJ but he still makes the team
    Lebron is an elite defender.
  • Pick6
    Hb31187;1015342 wrote:So has LBJ, just because he gets flashy blocks. He doesnt play more than average on ball defense. Theres plenty of wings who D up better than LBJ but he still makes the team
    so, do you think lebron is an average defender?
  • Commander of Awesome
    thedynasty1998;1015336 wrote:Like_that, can you translate this for us?
    Sure. Translation, "you're a idiot". Mo Williams can not play the 2 guard just because he shoots a decent percentage from the 3. He'll get killed by good SGs as he doesn't have the size, shot making ability, skill, length, without the ball movement to play a decent 2 guard. He can spot up around the 3 pt line and knock down an open look. On the defensive side he's an even bigger liability. He's a terrible defender at the PG spot and truly pathetic at the SG. Again like I and many other posters have stated which you ignore, he would get killed on defense at the 2 spot. Imagine him trying to guard Kobe, Eric Gordon, Dwayne Wade, Mayo, etc...they all have size on him and would score at will. And your fantasy idea of CP3 moving to the 2 spot on defense is laughable. CP3 doesn't have the defensive ability to do it, nor the size. Like HB stated, he plays passing lanes well, but on the ball defender he leaves a lot to be desired.
  • wes_mantooth
    thedynasty1998;1015346 wrote:Lebron is an elite defender.

    Nah, he is weak on the ball. Off the ball he is amazing though
  • Hb31187
    thedynasty1998;1015346 wrote:Lebron is an elite defender.
    He has the tools to be an elite defender. But an elite defender who has like 8 inches on another player doesnt let said player light him up (Jason Terry)
  • Hb31187
    Pick6;1015347 wrote:so, do you think lebron is an average defender?
    On ball, yes
  • Skyhook79
    thedynasty1998;1015346 wrote:Lebron is an elite defender.
    How do you know he never guards anyone who can actually score except for a few possessions here and there.
  • Pick6
    wes_mantooth;1015353 wrote:Nah, he is weak on the ball. Off the ball he is amazing though
    did you see what he did to Rose in the ECF?
  • Commander of Awesome
    thedynasty1998;1015346 wrote:Lebron is an elite defender.
    lol
  • Pick6
    Hb31187;1015355 wrote:On ball, yes
    whether on ball or not, COA called Chris Paul an average defender, which is not even close to being accurate.
  • Hb31187
    Pick6;1015357 wrote:did you see what he did to Rose in the ECF?
    Didnt rose get his still?
  • Pick6
    Hb31187;1015360 wrote:Yeah, he held Rose to 25 and 8 a game....lock down
    He didnt guard Rose the whole game. What were Rose's stats the final couple of minutes when Lebron was on him?
  • Commander of Awesome
    Pick6;1015359 wrote:whether on ball or not, COA called Chris Paul an average defender, which is not even close to being accurate.
    You think he's worse?
  • Pick6
    If you guys says people like Lebron and CP3 aren't good defenders, I'd really like to see who you think are good defenders.
  • Commander of Awesome


    lol elite defender lol
  • wes_mantooth
    Pick6;1015357 wrote:did you see what he did to Rose in the ECF?

    No, I didn't watch the games. I am just going on his Cleveland days. I agree with others that he had the tools, but he is lazy.
  • wildcats20
    Pick6;1015364 wrote:If you guys says people like Lebron and CP3 aren't good defenders, I'd really like to see who you think are good defenders.
    SMH

    NO ONE SAID THEY AREN'T GOOD DEFENDERS.
  • Hb31187
    Game 1. Rose 28-6
    Game 2. 21-8-6
    Game 3. 20-5-5
    Game 4. 23-6
    game 5. 25-8-5

    He did a decent job, but id hardly call that great defense
  • thedynasty1998
    Pick6;1015359 wrote:whether on ball or not, COA called Chris Paul an average defender, which is not even close to being accurate.
    He will argue whatever I say. It's comical. Paul is the 2nd best defensive PG in the NBA and can easily slide over to guard a 2 guard. It's not even up for debate. He's proven it.
  • Hb31187
    Pick6;1015361 wrote:He didnt guard Rose the whole game. What were Rose's stats the final couple of minutes when Lebron was on him?
    For short periods of time if he WANTS he can be a great on ball defender. But more times than not he doesnt even try, he just goes for steals and weak side blocks.
  • robj55
    Hb31187;1015342 wrote:So has LBJ, just because he gets flashy blocks. He doesnt play more than average on ball defense. Theres plenty of wings who D up better than LBJ but he still makes the team
    IDK about that, how many SF's could lock up DRose the way he did, none.
  • thedynasty1998
    Hb31187;1015369 wrote:Game 1. Rose 28-6
    Game 2. 21-8-6
    Game 3. 20-5-5
    Game 4. 23-6
    game 5. 25-8-5

    He did a decent job, but id hardly call that great defense
    I don't know the answer, but how many shot attempts did he have?
  • wes_mantooth
    Hb31187;1015373 wrote:For short periods of time if he WANTS he can be a great on ball defender. But more times than not he doesnt even try, he just goes for steals and weak side blocks.

    This pretty much sums it up