Cavs Continue to Roll in Preseason

• Commander of Awesome

  

  thedynasty1998;528642 wrote:Only reason he was ever listed as such is because he came into the league alongside Robinson. He guards the opposing teams centers, plays in the paint and fits all the criteria that would classify someone as a center.
  
  It really doesn't matter, but don't say someone doesn't have a clue when it's pretty apparent that although he may be listed as a PF at times, he's truly the center.

  
  I guess he only played the PF position last season was because he was playing along side Oberto? Only reason he is playing the PF this season is because of Blair? He's played PF his WHOLE career. Give it up.
• thedynasty1998

  

  Commander of Awesome;528652 wrote:I guess he only played the PF position last season was because he was playing along side Oberto? Only reason he is playing the PF this season is because of Blair? He's played PF his WHOLE career. Give it up.

  
  This coming from the guy who said:
  

  Commander of Awesome;528557 wrote:So? LeBron was our SF, but was really the PG. Wade was the SG for the Heat, but was really their PG. If you actually watch and know the game of basketball, which clearly you two don't, you would understand this.

  Which way is it? We have to list guys at their listed position, or the position they really play?
  
  Of the guys I listed, Duncan is the ONLY guy that you can argue is not a center, which is fine. But he plays the center position. Oberto guarded the opposing teams PF.
• thedynasty1998

  

  Chad Ford on Cavs:

  Predicted finish: 13 in East
  
  Without Lebron, the Cavs are a hodgepodge collection of solid role players who will struggle to win 30. Can vets like Mo Williams, Anderson Varejao, Ramon Sessions and Antawn Jamison improve now that they're no longer under Lebron's shadow? Can Harrison Barnes save the team next year?

• jordo212000

  

  KR1245;528579 wrote:"Numerous team have inquired about Varejao"..... Its crazy how these NBA GM's want a guy with no talent isnt it?
  
  According to Ken Berger of CBS Sports, "sources say numerous teams have inquired about [Anderson] Varejao, but the Cavs won't even entertain such talks unless they're getting a superstar in return."

  
  1. Uh, in the NBA teams trade for guys all the time with no talent. (expiring contracts?) I mean why else would a team ever want to trade for Eddy Curry? But if you've paid attention lately his name has popped up in the 'Melo talks.
  
  I'm not saying Varejao is on Curry's level. Varejao is solid. I never said he wasn't good, just that he is overpaid IMO. Hustle guys who get less than 7 rebounds per game over their career are a dime a dozen. Just making the point that teams trade for terrible players all the time.
  
  2. Looks like Varejao is a Cavalier for life if they want a superstar in return. They could maybe pull off a deal for the toxic Gilbert Arenas with Varejao being the center piece, but they wouldn't get much more than Arenas
• KR1245

  

  thedynasty1998;528642 wrote:Only reason he was ever listed as such is because he came into the league alongside Robinson. He guards the opposing teams centers, plays in the paint and fits all the criteria that would classify someone as a center.
  
  It really doesn't matter, but don't say someone doesn't have a clue when it's pretty apparent that although he may be listed as a PF at times, he's truly the center.

  
  Heres the thing though, hes not listed as a PF "at times".....Tim Duncan is a PF. I dont care how often he guards the opposing teams center, the guy is a PF. I can understand that you dont want to give up on this argument but sometimes you have to lick your wounds and admit when you're wrong. Its not uncommon for players to guard opponents that dont play the same position, this stuff happens all the time.
  
  Heres a link to Tim Duncans profile on NBA.com.....Tim Duncan #21 Forward
  
  http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tim_duncan/
• KR1245

  

  When was the last time Chad Ford got something right?
• thedynasty1998

  

  Commander of Awesome;528557 wrote:So? LeBron was our SF, but was really the PG. Wade was the SG for the Heat, but was really their PG. If you actually watch and know the game of basketball, which clearly you two don't, you would understand this.

  KR1245;528676 wrote:Heres the thing though, hes not listed as a PF "at times".....Tim Duncan is a PF. I dont care how often he guards the opposing teams center, the guy is a PF. I can understand that you dont want to give up on this argument but sometimes you have to lick your wounds and admit when you're wrong. Its not uncommon for players to guard opponents that dont play the same position, this stuff happens all the time.
  
  Heres a link to Tim Duncans profile on NBA.com.....Tim Duncan #21 Forward
  
  http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tim_duncan/

  
  Okay, he's a PF. Of all the things discussed on this thread, that's the one thing you can point out about me being wrong about.
• thedynasty1998

  

  KR1245;528676 wrote:Heres the thing though, hes not listed as a PF "at times".....Tim Duncan is a PF. I dont care how often he guards the opposing teams center, the guy is a PF. I can understand that you dont want to give up on this argument but sometimes you have to lick your wounds and admit when you're wrong. Its not uncommon for players to guard opponents that dont play the same position, this stuff happens all the time.
  
  Heres a link to Tim Duncans profile on NBA.com.....Tim Duncan #21 Forward
  
  http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tim_duncan/

  
  Okay, he's a PF. Of all the things on this thread, that's the one thing I was wrong on.
  
  As for Chad Ford, I really don't know much about him. Just saw his previews on Twitter and it's the first one I've read. He's obviously an idiot, as am I, because he doesn't think the Cavs have much talent.
• like_that

  

  KR1245;528680 wrote:When was the last time Chad Ford got something right?

  
  +1. Chad Ford lost all credibility when he cited a server at a Chicago restaurant stating LeBron will be coming to Chicago. Might as well link us to the sports pickle, or some random nba forum.
• jordo212000

  

  I think Chad Ford was one of the guys who had a boner for Darko during the draft a few years back. If you look back and read some of his comments, they're pretty funny now
• Hb31187

  

  [video=youtube;woWqSmichOo][/video] best darko comments ever hahah
• like_that

  

  All you need to know about Chad Ford.
  
  http://deadspin.com/5575825/chad-ford-reduces-lebron-sweepstakes-to-their-absurd-essence
• thedynasty1998

  

  Like I said above, I don't know anything about Chad Ford, but are we going to discredit him for being wrong about Lebron's destination? EVERY single analyst across the country had their "sources" who were telling them different things.
• thedynasty1998

  

  That Darko video is the GOAT! I think he just became one of my favorite players!
• like_that

  

  thedynasty1998;528719 wrote:Like I said above, I don't know anything about Chad Ford, but are we going to discredit him for being wrong about Lebron's destination? EVERY single analyst across the country had their "sources" who were telling them different things.

  
  No I am going to discredit him for being an idiot and actually quoting a SERVER at a Chicago restaurant.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  thedynasty1998;528683 wrote:Okay, he's a PF. Of all the things on this thread, that's the one thing I was wrong on.
  
  As for Chad Ford, I really don't know much about him. Just saw his previews on Twitter and it's the first one I've read. He's obviously an idiot, as am I, because he doesn't think the Cavs have much talent.

  
  Considering you "played college basketball" I would think you would know that. Sorry thats pitiful that you didn't know one of the greatest most celebrated player's position, and still claim to know enough about the NBA to try and argue with us.
  
  for such a sports fan as you claim to be, I doubt you have never heard/read Chad Ford before either. This all part of your act, you start shit, talk out of your ass, get pwned then try to act innocent. I bet you make a gay joke for your next post after this whipping. do some reasearch, learn about the game/sport, asks some questions and get in on some intelligent conversations instead of coming on here on your high horse acting like Mr. Know-It-All.
• thedynasty1998

  

  Commander of Awesome;528722 wrote:Considering you "played college basketball" I would think you would know that. Sorry thats pitiful that you didn't know one of the greatest most celebrated player's position, and still claim to know enough about the NBA to try and argue with us.
  
  for such a sports fan as you claim to be, I doubt you have never heard/read Chad Ford before either. This all part of your act, you start shit, talk out of your ass, get pwned then try to act innocent. I bet you make a gay joke for your next post after this whipping. do some reasearch, learn about the game/sport, asks some questions and get in on some intelligent conversations instead of coming on here on your high horse acting like Mr. Know-It-All.

  
  That's comical. So, someone can be listed at SF, but really be a PG, according to you? Well IMO Tim Duncan is a C listed as a PF, and that's pretty much a fact. Don't be such a moron.
  
  I never said I haven't heard of Chad Ford. Reading comprehension isn't taught in grad school? I said I don't know much about him, because I don't read his stuff. Most of his stuff is for insiders, and I'm not registered for it.
  
  The only thing pitiful on here is your ignorance. You are just so predictable. You get cut by your HS basketball team as a freshman. You go home and cry to mom and the random guy who was around the house on that night and they convince you to go out for wrestling with all the other losers who weren't good enough. You get your ass kicked daily in wrestling practice, but walk around the school with you chest out wearing your varsity jacket, not knowing everything is laughing at you. Then you pretend like you are so much better than the players on the basketball team for four years that you get this sense that you know more about the game than the one's that actually play it. And now it carries over to a message board. It's really clear.
• GOONx19

  

  thedynasty1998;528565 wrote:Ben Wallace was never a top center.

  
  This is the funniest post on this thread.
  
  Top 5s, Per RealGM.com/ESPN.com:
  2000/01: 3rd in NBA in rebounding, 4th in steals among PFs and centers
  2001/02: 1st in NBA in rebounding, 1st in NBA in blocks, 2nd in steals among PFs and centers, 5th in minutes/game among centers
  2002/03: 1st in NBA in rebounding, 2nd in NBA in blocks, 5th in steals among PFs and centers, 1st in minutes/game among centers
  2003/04: 3rd in NBA in rebounding, 2nd in NBA in blocks, 1st in steals among PFs and centers, 1st in minutes/game among centers
  2004/05: 2nd in NBA in rebounding, 5th in NBA in blocks, 4th in steals among PFs and centers, 2nd in minutes/game among centers
  2005/06: 5th in NBA in rebounding, 1st in steals among PFs and centers, 5th in minutes/game among centers
  2006/07: 1st in steals among PFs and centers, 4th in minutes/game among centers
• KR1245

  

  thedynasty1998;528733 wrote:That's comical. So, someone can be listed at SF, but really be a PG, according to you? Well IMO Tim Duncan is a C listed as a PF, and that's pretty much a fact. Don't be such a moron..

  
  Pretty much a fact? Except that it isnt........the guy is a PF, if he was a center he would be listed as a center.
• hoops23

  

  Sometimes I think thedynasty was born in 1998.
• Sage

  

  Tim Duncan is a fucking center, I don't give a shit what anybody says. I can choose to call my Ford Pinto a Lexus, and insist people call it a Lexus, but it doesn't make it a fucking Lexus. It's still a god damn Ford Pinto. Tim Duncan is a god damn center.
• Sage

  

  hoops23;529315 wrote:Sometimes I think thedynasty was born in 1998.

  
  LOL
• lhslep134

  

  Sage;530541 wrote:Tim Duncan is a fucking center, I don't give a shit what anybody says. I can choose to call my Ford Pinto a Lexus, and insist people call it a Lexus, but it doesn't make it a fucking Lexus. It's still a god damn Ford Pinto. Tim Duncan is a god damn center.

  
  Quit philisophosizing
  
  I agree though.
• Swamp Fox

  I think we are letting our general hatred for anything connected to LeBron color our judgement when it comes to the capacity of this years Cavs to make the play-offs or win 45-50 games. Eventually the Cavs will be back to respectability and will be a regular in the play-offs, but this season may be a learning year. I would say 35-40 wins would be a very successful start in the "Post LeBron" era. I think that 30-34 would be closer to the actual number of Cav victories this season. I hope I'm wrong.
• jordo212000

  

  Nobody at ESPN has the Cavs making the playoffs.
  http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/preview2010/news/story?page=Predictions1011-Cavaliers