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  • Con_Alma
    queencitybuckeye;1799821 wrote:Some groups can be legally discriminated against and some cannot, even if not American citizens.
    Yes, not only am I aware of such protections but remain in agreement with them.
  • Con_Alma
    Just recently the house rejected efforts to ban illegal immigrants from enlisting in the military.

    ...not a lot of gun control efforts there. We are apparently willing as a nation to let federal law breakers have assault rifles but restrict* citizens from having them.
  • salto
    like_that;1799743 wrote:Schindler.
    "I would argue that people like John Rabe or Oskar Schindler were not Nazis anymore, when they chose to act against the regime. They might have been on paper, but they have detached themselves from the ideology and acted against the regime's interests."
  • like_that
    said;1799842 wrote:"I would argue that people like John Rabe or Oskar Schindler were not Nazis anymore, when they chose to act against the regime. They might have been on paper, but they have detached themselves from the ideology and acted against the regime's interests."
    You can't think for yourself said?
  • like_that
    Speaking of guns, when did blaming Indiana for Chicago's gun crime become a thing?
  • gut
    like_that;1799846 wrote:Speaking of guns, when did blaming Indiana for Chicago's gun crime become a thing?
    That's been the excuse for a while.

    It may not be far off the mark, though. Read where 200k guns are lost or stolen every year - you're not going to sell those in a pawn shop.
  • like_that
    gut;1799847 wrote:That's been the excuse for a while.

    It may not be far off the mark, though. Read where 200k guns are lost or stolen every year - you're not going to sell those in a pawn shop.
    What's LA's excuse then?
  • O-Trap
    gut;1799847 wrote:That's been the excuse for a while.

    It may not be far off the mark, though. Read where 200k guns are lost or stolen every year - you're not going to sell those in a pawn shop.
    Yep. Heard a lot about that when I used to live out in Indiana. The argument was that Chicago's ban on guns is only ineffective because people can just get the guns outside Chicago and bring them in.

    I would submit that whether or not that is the actual avenue taken by gun owners in Chicago, it wouldn't have to be. See: heroin
  • iclfan2
    gut;1799847 wrote:That's been the excuse for a while.

    It may not be far off the mark, though. Read where 200k guns are lost or stolen every year - you're not going to sell those in a pawn shop.
    How about blaming the pieces of shit that live in Chicago?


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  • gut
    iclfan2;1799917 wrote:How about blaming the pieces of shit that live in Chicago?
    That's kind of a separate issue from where the guns are coming from, isn't it?
  • FatHobbit
    gut;1799847 wrote:That's been the excuse for a while.

    It may not be far off the mark, though. Read where 200k guns are lost or stolen every year - you're not going to sell those in a pawn shop.
    They should make stealing guns illegal
  • superman
    FatHobbit;1800039 wrote:They should make stealing guns illegal
    They should just outlaw murder.
  • thavoice
    jmog;1799019 wrote:I agree with everything you said.

    However a few clarifications.

    Assault rifles are already banned. By definition an assault rifle is an automatic firing rifle similar to what the Armed Forces use.

    An AR-15 is not an Assault Rifle, it is not "high powered" even. It has been given this moniker by those that have no clue what they are talking about due to ignorance and political views.

    A good explanation is this website:

    http://zombieprepared.com/guns/assault-rifles-assault-weapons-and-why-your-arak-pattern-rifle-isnt-one

    I know the main website is a conspiracy zombie nut, but the article is true.

    An AR-15 fires the same round and the same speed (semi automatic) as many basic hunting rifles. It gets the moniker as an "assault rifle" because of how it looks instead of reality. It is made to LOOK like an Army issue weapon when it isn't even close to what they actually use.

    Good info.

    Also, getting or making the weapon full auto makes it very difficult to fire accurately unless you have it on a bipod and it goes through a magazine very, very quickly. You have very little control over an assault rifle if you fire in full auto.

    I zipped through probably 60 or so rounds in a few magazines last weekend in full auto mode and yeah, you aint hitting much with it!
  • salto
    like_that;1799844 wrote:You can't think for yourself said?
    Quoting a previously linked thread, instead other rewording.

    Hope this helps.
  • like_that
    said;1800168 wrote:Quoting a previously linked thread, instead other rewording.

    Hope this helps.
    So you can't think for yourself. Got it.
  • QuakerOats
    <tt>51% OF AMERICAN MUSLIMS WANT SHARIA...

    ISLAMIC SPEAKER ADMITS: KILLING GAYS IS 'MODERATE' BELIEF...


    A couple rather unsettling articles.</tt>

  • ptown_trojans_1
    QuakerOats;1800186 wrote:<tt>51% OF AMERICAN MUSLIMS WANT SHARIA...

    ISLAMIC SPEAKER ADMITS: KILLING GAYS IS 'MODERATE' BELIEF...


    A couple rather unsettling articles.</tt>

    Again, GTFO. Can you for once not post parrot right wing false websites? Those sites have been widely discredited.
    Damn, that information is so freaking wrong or just not wholly accurate that is a joke.

    You are making yourself look like a complete idiot and bigot.
  • Raw Dawgin' it
    ptown_trojans_1;1800187 wrote:Again, GTFO. Can you for once not post parrot right wing false websites? Those sites have been widely discredited.
    Damn, that information is so freaking wrong or just not wholly accurate that is a joke.

    You are making yourself look like a complete idiot and bigot.
    He is
  • QuakerOats
    So obviously you think the poll is inaccurate, and all the quotes are wrong. Perhaps they are, what links do you have that contradicts the poll and quote? Thanks.
  • QuakerOats
    ptown_trojans_1;1800187 wrote:You are making yourself look like a complete idiot and bigot.

    By the way, if one wants to be governed by a representative republic free from Sharia law, does that make him a bigot? Interesting.
  • queencitybuckeye
    How does one contradict something completely made up?
  • ptown_trojans_1
    QuakerOats;1800196 wrote:So obviously you think the poll is inaccurate, and all the quotes are wrong. Perhaps they are, what links do you have that contradicts the poll and quote? Thanks.
    QuakerOats;1800198 wrote:By the way, if one wants to be governed by a representative republic free from Sharia law, does that make him a bigot? Interesting.
    I don't have the time nor patience to deal with your stupidity.
    Just use more credible polling or research sites, like Pew instead of some right wing hack sites.
  • QuakerOats
    I figured as much.

    and rah rah Hillary ...............
  • like_that
    ptown_trojans_1;1800202 wrote:I don't have the time nor patience to deal with your stupidity.
    Just use more credible polling or research sites, like Pew instead of some right wing hack sites.
    You don't have the time yet you keep responding to him... LOL
  • superman
    ptown_trojans_1;1800202 wrote:I don't have the time nor patience to deal with your stupidity.
    Just use more credible polling or research sites, like Pew instead of some right wing hack sites.
    According to the article, the research came from Pew.