2017 OSU Football Discussion

• Ironman92

  

  I'm ready for Joe. I pray for a new OC, an improved line and greatly developed receivers.
• slingshot4ever

  JT is our starter unless he transfers. Interested to see how many on D decide to enter the draft early
• wildcats20

  

  Raekwon, Hooker, Lattimore, Conley, Lewis will all be gone. Hubbard will be back, per his tweet. But I don't see any of those other guys coming back. No reason to.
• Ironman92

  

  slingshot4ever;1830698 wrote:JT is our starter unless he transfers. Interested to see how many on D decide to enter the draft early

  Yeah hopefully don't lose too many to draft....but not worried about defensive side.
  
  I didn't say Joe was going to be the QB...just stating that I'm ready for Joe. Tired of the sideways shit. I know the line struggled but JT...I just don't see it. He isn't a very good passer period. Joe can make the Sunday passes. If it's the same OC and QB next year....it'll be the same in big games IMO.
• slingshot4ever

  wildcats20;1830699 wrote:Raekwon, Hooker, Lattimore, Conley, Lewis will all be gone. Hubbard will be back, per his tweet. But I don't see any of those other guys coming back. No reason to.

  hooker previously stated he was 100% coming back...not sure if he is wavering now
• SportsAndLady

  

  Ironman92;1830700 wrote:Yeah hopefully don't lose too many to draft....but not worried about defensive side.
  
  I didn't say Joe was going to be the QB...just stating that I'm ready for Joe. Tired of the sideways shit. I know the line struggled but JT...I just don't see it. He isn't a very good passer period. Joe can make the Sunday passes. If it's the same OC and QB next year....it'll be the same in big games IMO.

  I agree with this. I'm not saying just bench JT. But I would like to see urban bring in another QB every now and then if it's clear JT can make the vertical throws.
• Ironman92

  

  I would think Hooker's stock is about as high as it could get
• mcburg93

  

  What happened to Jt from 2014 to now? He was so good in 2014 and now its like a complete different player. I know not having a line that can hold a block hurts as well. Maybe even the receivers are to blame since they cannot get open. Hope if he stays something gets worked out.
  
  I have read that Haskens(sp) was tearing up our first team defense in a few practices. It sounds like he is going to be a good one. Burrows looked good in clean up duty. He throws a nice ball.
  
  I am not to concerned with our defense. Our offense needs some work. New coordinators would help out tremendously.
• SportsAndLady

  

  mcburg93;1830706 wrote:What happened to Jt from 2014 to now? He was so good in 2014 and now its like a complete different player. I know not having a line that can hold a block hurts as well. Maybe even the receivers are to blame since they cannot get open. Hope if he stays something gets worked out.
  
  I have read that Haskens(sp) was tearing up our first team defense in a few practices. It sounds like he is going to be a good one. Burrows looked good in clean up duty. He throws a nice ball.
  
  I am not to concerned with our defense. Our offense needs some work. New coordinators would help out tremendously.

  He receivers were getting open last night, JT just missed them on a lot of throws.
• Benny The Jet

  

  Ironman92;1830700 wrote:Yeah hopefully don't lose too many to draft....but not worried about defensive side.
  
  I didn't say Joe was going to be the QB...just stating that I'm ready for Joe. Tired of the sideways shit. I know the line struggled but JT...I just don't see it. He isn't a very good passer period. Joe can make the Sunday passes. If it's the same OC and QB next year....it'll be the same in big games IMO.

  The way it's been sounding, Haskins may be next man up...really soon. Lot of praise from coaches and players the last few weeks.
  
  Give me a new OC, new WR coach and a set of REAL WR...not athletes who are trying to learn the position
• Benny The Jet

  

  SportsAndLady;1830709 wrote:He receivers were getting open last night, JT just missed them on a lot of throws.

  I agree with this, sort of. First half JT actually looked pretty good. Was 8-12 at 1 point with 2 drops. The 2nd half though was ALL on JT. Overthrows and underthrows galore
• Ironman92

  

  Benny The Jet;1830710 wrote:The way it's been sounding, Haskins may be next man up...really soon. Lot of praise from coaches and players the last few weeks.
  
  Give me a new OC, new WR coach and a set of REAL WR...not athletes who are trying to learn the position

  Whatever and whoever.....this cannot happen. I expect better if they were playing the Seahawks in Seattle
  
  
• ironman02

  JT does seem to have regressed as a passer. He had a lot of things working against him this year though. The offensive line has been atrocious in pass pro against good D-lines, so he has happy feet. His receiving corps has been pretty sub par for most of the season as well. His main problems, though, in my opinion are Tim Beck and Ed Warriner. I don't think it's a coincidence that JT has struggled since Beck began coaching the QBs. Beck can recruit well, but he apparently can't coach QBs or help call plays. Warriner has been pretty awful as the OC as well. Seems like he needs to go back to being an O-line coach exclusively. That said, Urban Meyer is ultimately responsible for his offensive staff and for developing an offensive game plan. He has done a piss poor job the last two seasons and Ohio State has looked awful offensively with an immense amount of talent at the skill positions. Obviously I'm no football coach, but that's my opinion, and I don't think it's far from the truth.
  
  Now, despite that, Ohio State is 61-6 since Urban came to Columbus, and they're recruiting better than ever. There's gonna be a spectacular recruiting class coming in next season that should start to address the needs at WR and help replace the losses in the secondary. I don't see JT leaving unless he just wants out for some reason, so I imagine he'll be the starter. If he does end up leaving, it'll be a close battle between Burrow and Haskins, and I like them both as passers. The offense should return basically everyone outside of Elflein and probably Samuel. Defensively, there will be some key losses, but I really like the young talent on that side of the ball. If Meyer and his staff can put together a competent offensive game plan next season, they should be one of the best teams in the country.
• salto

  

  slingshot4ever;1830698 wrote:JT is our starter unless he transfers. Interested to see how many on D decide to enter the draft early

  God I hope not. JT is not very good.
• vball10set

  mcburg93;1830706 wrote:What happened to Jt from 2014 to now? He was so good in 2014 and now its like a complete different player.

  Tom. Herman.
• Spock

  

  wildcats20;1830699 wrote:Raekwon, Hooker, Lattimore, Conley, Lewis will all be gone. Hubbard will be back, per his tweet. But I don't see any of those other guys coming back. No reason to.

  
  
  really? I dont see any of them leaving
• vball10set

  just a local OSU beat writer expressing his opinion, but I tend to agree with it...
  
  http://www.bcsn.tv/news_article/show/739526?referrer_id=878183
  

  Wholesale staff changes are never advised — and, really, who are we to question Meyer? — but Ohio State can’t risk keeping the status quo. At the least, Meyer should move on from co-offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach Tim Beck.
  Beck came to Ohio State last year after four seasons as the offensive coordinator at Nebraska, where his teams never threw well and quarterback Taylor Martinez failed to develop as anticipated. The Huskers’ passing offenses in those years ranked 104th, 91st, 97th and 82nd nationally.
  We’ve seen the same pattern at Ohio State.
  Although there are many factors — including the protection and the receivers’ lack of development — Barrett’s confidence as a passer has clearly frayed since his record-setting 2014 season under the instruction of Tom Herman, his QB rating falling from second in the country as a redshirt freshman to 55th as a junior this season. For as much as Meyer preaches balance, the Buckeyes’ passing game ranked 100th and 82nd the past two years.

• Heretic

  

  vball10set;1830849 wrote:just a local OSU beat writer expressing his opinion, but I tend to agree with it...
  
  http://www.bcsn.tv/news_article/show/739526?referrer_id=878183

  As do I. Never been high on Beck and the results show. When you get a shit-ton of 4- and 5-star guys and they're performing at this level and injuries aren't the (main, at least) reason for that, the onus falls on coaching.
• Benny The Jet

  

  Hooker makes it official, entering 2017 draft
• Ironman92

  

  Benny The Jet;1830892 wrote:Hooker makes it official, entering 2017 draft

  Good for him. What a season he had.
• ironman02

  Benny The Jet;1830892 wrote:Hooker makes it official, entering 2017 draft

  Great potential at the next level. Good decision to go and get his money.
  
  Conley and Lattimore will probably follow soon. OSU is putting DBs in the NFL at a crazy rate.
• wildcats20

  

  But, but he said he was coming back a month and a half ago.
• slingshot4ever

  Yah, he is a liar...moving on
• wildcats20

  

  slingshot4ever;1830903 wrote:Yah, he is a liar...moving on

  Lol.
• Benny The Jet

  

  slingshot4ever;1830903 wrote:Yah, he is a liar...moving on

  What did you want him to say when he was asked? Everyone with half a brain knew that he was pretty much gone. Just waited until after the season to announce. He's making the right choice