Tressel forwarding emails to TP's mentor

• se-alum

  

  Why are people talking like this is all Pryor's fault? There were other players involved, and this happened when most of them were Freshmen. Let's be honest, the kids were punished much more than they should of been, and Tress deserves everything he has coming to him(assuming he didn't forward the emails to Smith/compliance.
• password

  

  lhslep134;725382 wrote:Doesn't ANY of this strike you as odd? Tressel forwarded, but NOT to compliance, and he's been a straight shooter who has never hid anything from compliance? Then during the news conference, when asked if he forwarded the emails, Tressel said hm mmm, then Smith intervened and said he can't answer that?
  
  I'm not a conspiracy theorist but as the days go by I'm thinking more and more that Tressel is taking the fall instead of the entire program.

  
  
  You are either a kid in 6th grade who always gets picked last for the kick ball game OR you are really Mrs. Tressel under a false name trying to do damage control for her husband. He has never been a straight shooter with the NCAA, just look at YSU and OSU past problems that have been reported by players about his involvement with them. Have you ever thought that the college found out about the emails he forwarded to the so called mentor of Pryor when they found the emails he received from the lawyer? They may have been trying to investigate more in depth and see who else was involved but Yahoo forced their hand. The only person Tressel is taking the fall for is Jim Tressel.
• lhslep134

  

  password;726661 wrote:You are either a kid in 6th grade who always gets picked last for the kick ball game OR you are really Mrs. Tressel under a false name trying to do damage control for her husband. He has never been a straight shooter with the NCAA, just look at YSU and OSU past problems that have been reported by players about his involvement with them. Have you ever thought that the college found out about the emails he forwarded to the so called mentor of Pryor when they found the emails he received from the lawyer? They may have been trying to investigate more in depth and see who else was involved but Yahoo forced their hand. The only person Tressel is taking the fall for is Jim Tressel.

  
  Since no one really knows the facts of the case yet, your strong stance opposite my opinion is just as "ignorant" as you're implying mine to be. No side is right since no one really knows for sure yet who exactly Tressel forwarded the emails to. The only people who know, supposedly if they even know the whole truth, is the NCAA. And last time I checked, you don't work for them, and neither do I, so really, your comment is just as asinine as mine.
• karen lotz

  

  I know everyone on here hates Bruce Hooley, but...
  
  http://brucehooley.com/opinion/ncaa-tressel-thursday/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
• sherm03

  

  karen lotz;726896 wrote:I know everyone on here hates Bruce Hooley, but...
  
  http://brucehooley.com/opinion/ncaa-tressel-thursday/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

  
  The paragraph I found most interesting in that article...

  Tressel lied on the NCAA compliance form he signed in September, misled OSU investigators twice in December, played two players (Pryor and Posey) all season who he had a strong suspicion were in violation of NCAA rules and did not admit to knowing about those possible violations since April until Ohio State searched his email inbox in January after a request for its contents from Yahoo Sports.

  So is Yahoo actually responsible for this whole thing after all?!?! From what I read on here...they are just a bunch of hack journalists who had a leak in the NCAA office and didn't actually do any investigating. So am I to believe that what I read here on the OC was wrong concerning Yahoo?
• LJ

  

  sherm03;726913 wrote:The paragraph I found most interesting in that article...
  
  
  So is Yahoo actually responsible for this whole thing after all?!?! From what I read on here...they are just a bunch of hack journalists who had a leak in the NCAA office and didn't actually do any investigating. So am I to believe that what I read here on the OC was wrong concerning Yahoo?

  
  Thats the first place I have ever seen that claim
• password

  

  lhslep134;726781 wrote:Since no one really knows the facts of the case yet, your strong stance opposite my opinion is just as "ignorant" as you're implying mine to be. No side is right since no one really knows for sure yet who exactly Tressel forwarded the emails to. The only people who know, supposedly if they even know the whole truth, is the NCAA. And last time I checked, you don't work for them, and neither do I, so really, your comment is just as asinine as mine.

  
  I just don't understand how some people can still think Tressel must be covering for OSU because he could never do anything wrong. The more that comes out about this, the more it is looking like he attempted to hide information from everyone. OSU could not be that stupid to help hide information from the NCAA, knowing that it would make things worse and I would hope they would not ruin everything that the school stood for because of a few bad seeds that were caught trying to beat the system. You know that if Tressel is found guilty of trying to hide information from the NCAA and OSU, there will still be people that will claim he took the fall for the school. Yes,I will agree that my comment may have been just as asinine as some of the rest, maybe we all need to read our post twice before posting.
• lhslep134

  

  password;727029 wrote:I just don't understand how some people can still think Tressel must be covering for OSU because he could never do anything wrong.

  
  If you're putting me in that grouping of people, then you either didn't read what I said or you're being an ass.
  
  Firstly, I don't think he "must be" covering up for Ohio State. For that to be true, I'd have to have the facts to back that up. I only bring it up within the realm of possibility because of the stench of fishiness I perceive to be stemming from this whole thing. And you cannot deny it is within the realm of possibility, since the facts are not known yet.
  
  Secondly, even if I did think he was covering up for Ohio State, it wouldn't be because he could never do anything wrong. It is documented mistakes he has made in the past, whether his fault or not (although not many on here know what really happened at YSU). The only basis I have for considering in the realm of possibility him covering up is because of the magnificent consequences the entire program could face.
  
  Again, I am only offering something that is within the realm of possibility at this point. I don't have any facts, and I certainly don't offer up my opinion with any certainty behind it.
• jordo212000

  

  Why would Tress take the fall for Gene Smith? Tress is a much bigger name at the university and he has a reputation to uphold. Tress has carefully managed his reputation/public perception for years and I doubt that he would throw that all away now.
  
  Ohio State also fined him a substantial amount of money. Once again I find it hard to believe that they would levy this fine on Tress if they were the real guilty party. I mean, wouldn't you want the fall guy to look at you favorably?
• Scarlet_Buckeye

  

  se-alum;726607 wrote:Why are people talking like this is all Pryor's fault? There were other players involved, and this happened when most of them were Freshmen. Let's be honest, the kids were punished much more than they should of been, and Tress deserves everything he has coming to him(assuming he didn't forward the emails to Smith/compliance.

  
  Because Pryor is the star on the team. If you're going to be the starting QB of one of the most prominent college football teams in the country, then you better damn well not f- it up by doing something stupid like selling memorabilia and exchanging signatures for free tats.
  
  
  Glory and praise don't come free.
• password

  

  lhslep134;727110 wrote:If you're putting me in that grouping of people, then you either didn't read what I said or you're being an ass.
  
  Firstly, I don't think he "must be" covering up for Ohio State. For that to be true, I'd have to have the facts to back that up. I only bring it up within the realm of possibility because of the stench of fishiness I perceive to be stemming from this whole thing. And you cannot deny it is within the realm of possibility, since the facts are not known yet.
  
  Secondly, even if I did think he was covering up for Ohio State, it wouldn't be because he could never do anything wrong. It is documented mistakes he has made in the past, whether his fault or not (although not many on here know what really happened at YSU). The only basis I have for considering in the realm of possibility him covering up is because of the magnificent consequences the entire program could face.
  
  Again, I am only offering something that is within the realm of possibility at this point. I don't have any facts, and I certainly don't offer up my opinion with any certainty behind it.

  I just don't think that the university would ever be that stupid to try and hide this from the NCAA? With the possible sanctions against the school and the football program at stake, you would think that Smith and Gee would never knowingly hide violations from the NCAA. They have to be smarter than that and realize it would be best to just take the suspensions or whatever the NCAA would have gave them in April when this all started. I just think that Tressel thought he had more power than anyone else at the college and he could do as he wanted. We may never know the truth because OSU will put their own spin on it and the NCAA will do their think also. Maybe Tressel has more to hide about the players than has been released and he had talked to the players and threatened to turn them in if they did not agree to return for the next season and he figured that they would never say anything for fear of them being suspended, so there are all kind of possible theories out their and you are right, the truth may never be known.
• vball10set

  I really wish Pryor would've declared for the draft..it may not have kept OSU from any of the penalties is has and will incur, but just seeing him on the field will be a reminder of all that has happened over the last year or so. Is he the sole reason all this came down? of course not, but IMO he's the biggest reason that it did.
• LJ

  

  vball10set;727464 wrote:I really wish Pryor would've declared for the draft..it may not have kept OSU from any of the penalties is has and will incur, but just seeing him on the field will be a reminder of all that has happened over the last year or so. Is he the sole reason all this came down? of course not, but IMO he's the biggest reason that it did.

  
  Tressel made his own decisions, period
• thedynasty1998

  

  Tressel covering for Gene Smith is about as dumb as the conspiracy theorists who say we never walked on the moon.
• vball10set

  LJ;727471 wrote:Tressel made his own decisions, period

  
  I realize that, it's just that I think TP's wore out his welcome, at least as far as this fan is concerned--as far as I'm concerned, it's time to enter the Braxton Miller era.
• Tobias Fünke

  

  vball10set;727777 wrote:I realize that, it's just that I think TP's wore out his welcome, at least as far as this fan is concerned--as far as I'm concerned, it's time to enter the Braxton Miller era.

  
  +1 billion
• WebFire

  And Braxton already has tats. So unless he wants sleeves, you shouldn't have much to worry about.
• vball10set

  WebFire;727854 wrote:And Braxton already has tats. So unless he wants sleeves, you shouldn't have much to worry about.

  
  LOL-okay, webbie, I'll give you that one--but the "tat" jokes are getting a little stale, don't ya' think?
  
  oh, I almost forgot.....9-1
• Mortgagestar1

  The bigger the money the bigger the corruption! The NCAA is as corrupt as a Chicago politician at a union rally. The main reason we don't have a playoff system in major college football is the huge dollars prostituted by corporate sponsors and the conferences as it's pimps. OSU is the biggest cash register for the Big Ten and The Big Ten is the central bank for the NCAA. The biggest roadblock for major college playoff system is The Big Ten. Research it yourselves!
  
  Had this been a non BCS conference, the ax would have come down. It's like Obama trash talking Wall Street while gladly taking Wall Street's money for political campaign funds. Not a thing will happen and the NCAA has no teeth in that dog. Let's see Tressel and the " Boys " be suspended from the LAST five games & allow them to participate in the first five contests. that would send a message.
• sherm03

  

  Mortgagestar1;727875 wrote: Let's see Tressel and the " Boys " be suspended from the LAST five games & allow them to participate in the first five contests. that would send a message.

  I don't agree with that. People were very upset that the NCAA did not suspend the players immediately and allowed them to play in the bowl game. But now you're suggesting that the NCAA hold off suspensions. I do not agree with that at all...and think that could set some bad precedents.
• WebFire

  vball10set;727866 wrote:LOL-okay, webbie, I'll give you that one--but the "tat" jokes are getting a little stale, don't ya' think?

  No, I don't think so.
  
  57–44–6
• jordo212000

  

  add me to the group of people who want TP and Devier Posey to go away
• WebFire

  Even the student paper is ripping on Pryor. Ouch!
  
  http://www.thelantern.com/sports/commentary-terrelle-pryor-has-failed-in-his-time-at-ohio-state-1.2125970
• Tobias Fünke

  

  WebFire;727902 wrote:Even the student paper is ripping on Pryor. Ouch!

  I would estimate something like ~75% of the campus hates Pryor as a person.
• vball10set

  WebFire;727900 wrote:No, I don't think so.
  
  57–44–6

  
  seriously? you really are desperate!!!
  

  WebFire;727902 wrote:Even the student paper is ripping on Pryor. Ouch!
  
  http://www.thelantern.com/sports/commentary-terrelle-pryor-has-failed-in-his-time-at-ohio-state-1.2125970

  old news, webbie--you're slipping, skunkbear, you can't even troll effectively anymore