How Much Trouble Is OSU and Tressel in Now?!

• queencitybuckeye

  Fidmeister;703850 wrote:Take it a step further then. There are plenty of Cooper-era players in the NFL. Imagine if they decided to drop 250 large on a pair of gold pants. I'm sure they mean that much in sentimental value to them.
  
  Or if random rich fan who isn't a booster drops 150 grand on a Big Ten title ring because it's worth that much to him?
  
  That's an incredibly slippery slope.
  
  Don't want selling the pants/rings to be an extra bennie, give them to every student on campus. Then, it's nothing special for being on the football team. Problem solved.
  
  Or just recruit more players who understand it's a bad thing to violate NCAA rules they were warned about.

  
  Or quit pretending that these kids are just like the other 50,000, let them make a little money this way without costing the program a dime.
• bo shemmy3337

  centralbucksfan;703869 wrote:This coming from a fan of Izzo, who had to sit out a game this past year? And MSU football under Williams? Give me a break...

  
  And a guy who just said a Michigan player deserved a ball thrown at him after the game.
• Cleveland Buck

  

  As I said before, just give the players six figure signing bonuses. Then you have nothing to worry about with the NCAA and they don't have to trade their gold pants for tattoos.
• Writerbuckeye

  

  Fidmeister;703850 wrote:Take it a step further then. There are plenty of Cooper-era players in the NFL. Imagine if they decided to drop 250 large on a pair of gold pants. I'm sure they mean that much in sentimental value to them.
  
  Or if random rich fan who isn't a booster drops 150 grand on a Big Ten title ring because it's worth that much to him?
  
  That's an incredibly slippery slope.
  
  Don't want selling the pants/rings to be an extra bennie, give them to every student on campus. Then, it's nothing special for being on the football team. Problem solved.
  
  Or just recruit more players who understand it's a bad thing to violate NCAA rules they were warned about.

  
  Well shit, let's just make up a scenario where just about ANYTHING that's now okay for players to do is blown up because a player decides to take the big bucks.
  
  It can happen anytime, anywhere by anyone. You can't possibly control everything that goes on.
  
  The NCAA should stick to policing things that give a CLEAR COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE to one team over another -- like over signing. Instead, they continuously get involved in piddly crap like this.
  
  To make my case even clearer -- this particular rule wasn't even in effect 10 years ago (or thereabouts). The NCAA is always paranoid that players will get ANYTHING that a regular college player doesn't have or have access to. Which is pathetically stupid, because all college scholarship players already have access to lots of stuff a regular student doesn't.
  
  Yet they keep using that as their benchmark for making these silly rules.
• Automatik

  

  Zoltan;703866 wrote:The good things is OSU seems to have found the email before Yahoo got it. OSU self reported that JT should have caught this during the investigation, but the Yahoo report is making it public before the appeal is over.
  
  There is nothing new here to OSU, but they are being forced to address before they planned.

  Where did you hear this?
• ytownfootball

  

  Writerbuckeye;703876 wrote:Well shit, let's just make up a scenario where just about ANYTHING that's now okay for players to do is blown up because a player decides to take the big bucks.
  
  It can happen anytime, anywhere by anyone. You can't possibly control everything that goes on.
  
  The NCAA should stick to policing things that give a CLEAR COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE to one team over another -- like over signing. Instead, they continuously get involved in piddly crap like this.
  
  To make my case even clearer -- this particular rule wasn't even in effect 10 years ago (or thereabouts). The NCAA is always paranoid that players will get ANYTHING that a regular college player doesn't have or have access to. Which is pathetically stupid, because all college scholarship players already have access to lots of stuff a regular student doesn't.
  
  Yet they keep using that as their benchmark for making these silly rules.

  
  While I agree in principle, at the end of the day a rule is a rule.
• dwccrew

  

  wes_mantooth;703722 wrote:If Tressel was to step down, I wonder if we could get Charlie Sheen? He is available.

  Undefeated every year. All he does is win every second.
  

  bo shemmy3337;703801 wrote:Also the only thing I see happening would be the kids who are already suspended being removed from the team and maybe tress gets a warning. I would let the kids go just because this is clearly not going away until they are gone IMO.

  
  Why would the players be removed from the team? They have already been punished for what they did, these allegations are directed at Tressel and have nothing to do with the players. You're smarter than that, at least I think you are.
• Automatik

  

  A friend in Cbus just texted me and said he just heard on the radio that most believe a suspension for Tress is coming.
  
  
  per Tim May of the Dispatch
• Fab1b

  

  Zoltan - where did you hear of an email?? Haven't seen anything of the sort.
• dlazz

  10tv says he's (Tressel) getting a 2 game suspension
• bo shemmy3337

  dwccrew;703882 wrote:Undefeated every year. All he does is win every second.
  
  
  
  Why would the players be removed from the team? They have already been punished for what they did, these allegations are directed at Tressel and have nothing to do with the players. You're smarter than that, at least I think you are.

  
  I would let them go just to get this all out of the way before the season and so no one has to hear about it all year. Just think what the only topic will be after week 5.
• wildcats20

  

  bo shemmy3337;703888 wrote:I would let them go just to get this all out of the way before the season and so no one has to hear about it all year. Just think what the only topic will be after week 5.

  
  And you don't think it would be the story of the season if they let the players go?? Come on now.
• ytownfootball

  

  bo shemmy3337;703888 wrote:I would let them go just to get this all out of the way before the season and so no one has to hear about it all year. Just think what the only topic will be after week 5.

  
  It'll be discussion all year whether they're there or not, you can bank on it.
• bo shemmy3337

  wildcats20;703889 wrote:And you don't think it would be the story of the season if they let the players go?? Come on now.

  
  not nearly as much.
• Fidmeister

  Writerbuckeye;703876 wrote:Well shit, let's just make up a scenario where just about ANYTHING that's now okay for players to do is blown up because a player decides to take the big bucks.
  
  It can happen anytime, anywhere by anyone. You can't possibly control everything that goes on.
  
  The NCAA should stick to policing things that give a CLEAR COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE to one team over another -- like over signing. Instead, they continuously get involved in piddly crap like this.
  
  To make my case even clearer -- this particular rule wasn't even in effect 10 years ago (or thereabouts). The NCAA is always paranoid that players will get ANYTHING that a regular college player doesn't have or have access to. Which is pathetically stupid, because all college scholarship players already have access to lots of stuff a regular student doesn't.
  
  Yet they keep using that as their benchmark for making these silly rules.

  
  If you want to discuss the ridiculous rules the NCAA has, I'm with ya dude. There are some stupid ones. I was half convinced they'd say the Wake Forest baseball coach violated extra benefit rules for giving a player one of his kidneys. After all, he wouldn't have done it for a biology major.
  
  But, you can't break a rule just because you think it's stupid.
• imex99

  

  ok this is from my source
  Here it goes:
  
  Tressel is informed in April - Hence the compliance meetings and no further sales of items.
  
  Tressel informs the University compliance office.
  Compliance office visits Tattoo parlor.
  
  Feds step in and say you can't say anything - this is an active investigation of the Tattoo parlor owner.
  
  OSU keeps their mouth shut at the direction of the Feds
  
  Feds finish investigation in December. OSU immediately announces what they know.
  
  Quick disposition of punishments and players allowed to play.
  
  Tressel and OSU knew. Unable to say anything because of Feds. Fits timelines.
  
  Quick disposition of punishments and players allowed to play.
  
  (hoping this is the story...)
  
  Sent from my Sprint HTC EVO 4G using Tapatalk
• lhslep134

  

  From the Dispatch article it seemed as though Tressel received the info in April from a lawyer, but felt that because it was from a lawyer there really wasn't much to do about it because it was part of an ongoing investigation (or something like that?)
  
  http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2011/03/08/0308-osu-to-hold-news-conference-tonight.html?sid=101
• Fidmeister

  And a two-game suspension would be a joke. Doubt they need him for Akron and Toledo.
  
  It has weight if it's the first to Big 10+2 games. Then he'd miss Nebraska. That would make a difference.
• bo shemmy3337

  imex99;703899 wrote:ok this is from my source
  Here it goes:
  
  Tressel is informed in April - Hence the compliance meetings and no further sales of items.
  
  Tressel informs the University compliance office.
  Compliance office visits Tattoo parlor.
  
  Feds step in and say you can't say anything - this is an active investigation of the Tattoo parlor owner.
  
  OSU keeps their mouth shut at the direction of the Feds
  
  Feds finish investigation in December. OSU immediately announces what they know.
  
  Quick disposition of punishments and players allowed to play.
  
  Tressel and OSU knew. Unable to say anything because of Feds. Fits timelines.
  
  Quick disposition of punishments and players allowed to play.
  
  
  
  Sent from my Sprint HTC EVO 4G using Tapatalk

  
  we will see in 6 mins if you are right,
  
  Sent from my girlfriends laptop while sitting in the living room drinking a diet mountain dew and thinking about throwing in a dip of Grizzly mint.
• Automatik

  

  So actually its just a bunch of bullshit?
  
  Whew!
• ytownfootball

  

  Fidmeister;703903 wrote:And a two-game suspension would be a joke. Doubt they need him for Akron and Toledo.
  
  It has weight if it's the first to Big 10+2 games. Then he'd miss Nebraska. That would make a difference.

  
  Because that's what would make you happy?
• Def Leopard

  The answer to this and the SI cover question, "What are coaches to do"?
  Recruit kids with better character. The day coaches threw out heart and character for vertical jump and shuttle time is the day problems with athletes on campus began. Athletes have always been given perks at big time programs, but they were content with that and considered it a priveledge. The kids on campus today have grown up entitled and take that attitude with them to college. They aren't satisfied with a couple hundred a month and a car, nothing is sacred and everything is for sale in the name of cash.
• Fidmeister

  If they knew in April, would have been simple to suspend these guys for a violation of team rules. That way, you can say it's anything and never reveal what it was.
• bo shemmy3337

  Fidmeister;703909 wrote:If they knew in April, would have been simple to suspend these guys for a violation of team rules. That way, you can say it's anything and never reveal what it was.

  
  That would work haha
• se-alum

  

  OSU has been working w/ the NCAA on this violation since January. Yahoo broke nothing new to OSU or NCAA.