How Much Trouble Is OSU and Tressel in Now?!

• bo shemmy3337

  sleeper;702546 wrote:It's Yahoo.
  
  Anyone can post rumors.

  
  Agree, a Yahoo report alone is never going to get anyone in trouble.
• DeyDurkie5

  

  spartybbcoach;703765 wrote:What is so funny about this is all of the Ohio State fans who bash other programs are now seeing the beloved Buckeye football program in trouble. Isn't this ironic that this comes up at the same time as the Sports Illustrated article came out about the number of programs that had players with criminal records. Yes, OSU had seven. Just shows that every program has skeletons in the closet, looks like OSU might become "Thug U." I must admit that I am snickering a bit, never an OSU fan.

  and you act like this has been confirmed...until anything is set in stone, don't get ahead of yourself. Hopefully this is nothing, so we can laugh at your gay ass
• bo shemmy3337

  Also the only thing I see happening would be the kids who are already suspended being removed from the team and maybe tress gets a warning. I would let the kids go just because this is clearly not going away until they are gone IMO.
• se-alum

  

  Article states Tress is facing possible sanction(singular) or fine. I think that pretty much means it's nothing serious.
  
  http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/sports/stories/2011/03/08/0308-osu-to-hold-news-conference-tonight.html?sid=101
• jordo212000

  

  Disappointed in Tress. I had always thought more of him. I think the first time I realized that Tress was human was when he played all of those in the bowl game. I know the rules/NCAA said that they could play, but I thought the "Tress thing to do" would be to bench them
• LJ

  

  lol, how funny would it be if the media made all this hoopla and Tress gets suspended the first game of the season and fined $100k
• Writerbuckeye

  

  johngrizzly;703768 wrote:I can't believe there are people on here who think Tressel is going to get in trouble.

  
  I've been monitoring stuff all day and my PR "spidey" sense says JT is going to face some punishment tonight. No, I don't think he'll be fired or resign, but he might get suspended w/o pay for a few games or something similar.
  
  OSU may also have to vacate a few games as a result of this if JT didn't do his diligence in following up a report that some players were selling their stuff for tattoos or whatever (which I still say is one of the lamest rules in NCAA history).
  
  My best guess is that JT thought he had followed up on something but didn't follow exact protocol, and now he and possibly the team are going to pay a price.
  
  I have nothing to base this on other than the fact that Gee has already stated they are looking into a perceived violation, so that tells me this is about doing something (or not doing something) that falls into a gray area so far as compliance matters go.
  
  In any event, you don't have a press conference, bring an AD back from duties elsewhere, and cancel the coach's book signing just to say everything is wonderful and nothing questionable happened. Something is being looked into, whether it is a violation or not -- remains to be seen because I'm sure OSU has been on the phone with the NCAA all day figuring that out, along with appropriate punishment.
  
  Those who rag on JT and OSU and live for these kinds of things (there are more than a few on these forums) forget that Ohio State has ALWAYS been among the best of the big schools at self policing, self reporting, and are very quick to take action when anything is found that is a violation. They aren't like USC, Auburn or lots of other schools that obfuscate and delay, hoping it goes away.
  
  OSU will take its medicine and move forward -- hopefully continuing to win with class and dignity as they've typically done during JT's tenure.
• jordo212000

  

  Writer, you do realize the slippery slope that could arise if you allowed players to sign autographs/sell their stuff for money/goods/services right? Haha I mean think about it. They could simply sell their ring to a booster and the booster can give him a wink wink payday and simply claim "that's how much it is worth!"
• Writerbuckeye

  

  jordo212000;703826 wrote:Writer, you do realize the slippery slope that could arise if you allowed players to sign autographs/sell their stuff for money/goods/services right? Haha I mean think about it. They could simply sell their ring to a booster and the booster can give him a wink wink payday and simply claim "that's how much it is worth!"

  
  They already have rules in effect that prohibit players from taking ANYTHING from a booster. Selling your own trinkets that you get for winning titles shouldn't be a violation. Either it's your property or it's not. If the NCAA wants to get this "nanny-ish" then simply ban championship rings, gold pants and the like -- or make schools put them in storage for players until after they use up their eligibility.
• Fab1b

  

  I do agree if they can't sell it and it's not "theirs" until eligibility is exhausted the University should store it until said time.
• bo shemmy3337

  Writerbuckeye;703838 wrote:They already have rules in effect that prohibit players from taking ANYTHING from a booster. Selling your own trinkets that you get for winning titles shouldn't be a violation. Either it's your property or it's not. If the NCAA wants to get this "nanny-ish" then simply ban championship rings, gold pants and the like -- or make schools put them in storage for players until after they use up their eligibility.

  
  rules are rules, and anything over 99 dollars is a violation. We will see what happens at 7.
• bo shemmy3337

  Fab1b;703846 wrote:I do agree if they can't sell it and it's not "theirs" until eligibility is exhausted the University should store it until said time.

  
  
  Here is my problem. It is not like this happens all the time so clearly there is a rule in place against this.
• Fidmeister

  Writerbuckeye;703838 wrote:They already have rules in effect that prohibit players from taking ANYTHING from a booster. Selling your own trinkets that you get for winning titles shouldn't be a violation. Either it's your property or it's not. If the NCAA wants to get this "nanny-ish" then simply ban championship rings, gold pants and the like -- or make schools put them in storage for players until after they use up their eligibility.

  
  Take it a step further then. There are plenty of Cooper-era players in the NFL. Imagine if they decided to drop 250 large on a pair of gold pants. I'm sure they mean that much in sentimental value to them.
  
  Or if random rich fan who isn't a booster drops 150 grand on a Big Ten title ring because it's worth that much to him?
  
  That's an incredibly slippery slope.
  
  Don't want selling the pants/rings to be an extra bennie, give them to every student on campus. Then, it's nothing special for being on the football team. Problem solved.
  
  Or just recruit more players who understand it's a bad thing to violate NCAA rules they were warned about.
• se-alum

  

  bo shemmy3337;703849 wrote:Here is my problem. It is not like this happens all the time so clearly there is a rule in place against this.

  I would imagine it does happen much more often than we hear about.
• bo shemmy3337

  Again, this does not happen all the time so there must be rules against this.
• Fidmeister

  Anyone else think there's no chance the NCAA shrinks the suspensions now?
• bo shemmy3337

  se-alum;703851 wrote:I would imagine it does happen much more often than we hear about.

  
  Thats the problem, everyone always says everyone is doing it. Well who?
• Fidmeister

  bo shemmy3337;703858 wrote:Thats the problem, everyone always says everyone is doing it. Well who?

  
  Antonio Pittman says so.
• Fab1b

  

  Fidmeister;703857 wrote:Anyone else think there's no chance the NCAA shrinks the suspensions now?

  
  Agree
• se-alum

  

  bo shemmy3337;703858 wrote:Thats the problem, everyone always says everyone is doing it. Well who?

  
  You're a better poster than that bo, don't stoop to ridiculous statements like this. So you are telling me you believe every college football team that hasn't been caught doing something wrong is clean?? C'mon.
• jordo212000

  

  There is a reason they have the rule while they are currently playing. Like I said, it could be used as a copout any time money changes hands.
  
  If somebody were to get busted for accepting large amounts of money from anybody (not just boosters) they could simply say "this is how much the memoribilia is worth"
• Zoltan

  The good things is OSU seems to have found the email before Yahoo got it. OSU self reported that JT should have caught this during the investigation, but the Yahoo report is making it public before the appeal is over.
  
  There is nothing new here to OSU, but they are being forced to address before they planned.
• ytownfootball

  

  5 and not 4 was to allow them to play in the bowl game (didn't agree with that but obviously not my call) so I didn't expect a reduction anyway. It was worth a shot though.
• centralbucksfan

  spartybbcoach;703765 wrote:What is so funny about this is all of the Ohio State fans who bash other programs are now seeing the beloved Buckeye football program in trouble. Isn't this ironic that this comes up at the same time as the Sports Illustrated article came out about the number of programs that had players with criminal records. Yes, OSU had seven. Just shows that every program has skeletons in the closet, looks like OSU might become "Thug U." I must admit that I am snickering a bit, never an OSU fan.

  
  This coming from a fan of Izzo, who had to sit out a game this past year? And MSU football under Williams? Give me a break...
• bo shemmy3337

  se-alum;703864 wrote:You're a better poster than that bo, don't stoop to ridiculous statements like this. So you are telling me you believe every college football team that hasn't been caught doing something wrong is clean?? C'mon.

  
  No no, I think most schools do break rules but this particular situation does not happen all the time IMO.