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Disgusted with Trump administration - Part I

  • rocketalum
    Again if this were normal I would agree. Trump hacked the system though. He figured out that not every issue can be a big issue if you're creating 5 big issues a day. It makes the opposition look like whiny bitches even if they're right. I'm not saying they aren't big I'm saying this isn't normal and tactics have to evolve. Death by a thousand cuts will never work with this guy. I don't have the answer as to which one of the issues is the right one to go all in on but that's the only path that can work. You cannot chase every rabbit hole this guy is going to send you down.
  • sleeper
    FatHobbit;1835441 wrote:Do you mean when Russia was sanctioned for exposing how the Democrats were manipulating the election?

    I love how Hillary gets caught sending classified info through unsecure email and the left tries to brand it as "just emails." They get caught manipulating the election to be sure Bernie doesn't win and somehow that is Russia manipulating the election because they exposed it. Did anyone ever prove it was Russia that did it? I thought wiki leaks said Russia was not their source?
    They were manipulating their primaries, not the election.

    And yes those sanctions. The sanctions which contingent on removal gave a 19.5% bank stake to an unknown buyer. There was a report out earlier of a similar deal connected to Trump owned companies that fell through; and bam, he becomes President and removes Russian sanctions.

    We've been duped. America was bought and sold and the fascists defend it.
  • sleeper
    rocketalum;1835445 wrote:Again if this were normal I would agree. Trump hacked the system though. He figured out that not every issue can be a big issue if you're creating 5 big issues a day. It makes the opposition look like whiny bitches even if they're right. I'm not saying they aren't big I'm saying this isn't normal and tactics have to evolve. Death by a thousand cuts will never work with this guy. I don't have the answer as to which one of the issues is the right one to go all in on but that's the only path that can work. You cannot chase every rabbit hole this guy is going to send you down.
    Simple. Pick one of the many scandals and use laser like focus to get him impeached. He's 14 days in and he makes Nixon look like a saint.
  • FatHobbit
    sleeper;1835447 wrote:They were manipulating their primaries, not the election.
    I'm glad you're OK with corruption inside the democratic party.

    They fucked Bernie, paid him off, and now somehow the sjws still think he's the people's candidate because he promised to let them get a bachelor of arts for "free".

    Don't forget they were giving Hillary the debate questions before the debate.
  • CenterBHSFan
    The question itself is interchangeable and malleable, according to who is asking it (imagine that!)

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/01/americans-support-donald-trumps-immigration-ban-oppose-poll/

    http://www.salon.com/2017/01/30/does-the-temporary-ban-on-muslims-entering-the-united-states-enhance-national-security/

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/01/31/reuters_ipsos_muslim_ban_poll_finds_support_for_order.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/02/polls-widespread-backing-trump-travel-ban

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-poll-exclusive-idUSKBN15F2MG
  • QuakerOats
    FatHobbit;1835450 wrote:I'm glad you're OK with corruption inside the democratic party.

    They fucked Bernie, paid him off, and now somehow the sjws still think he's the people's candidate because he promised to let them get a bachelor of arts for "free".

    Don't forget they were giving Hillary the debate questions before the debate.

    And Seth Rich is still deceased.
  • rocketalum
    sleeper;1835447 wrote:They were manipulating their primaries, not the election.

    And yes those sanctions. The sanctions which contingent on removal gave a 19.5% bank stake to an unknown buyer. There was a report out earlier of a similar deal connected to Trump owned companies that fell through; and bam, he becomes President and removes Russian sanctions.

    We've been duped. America was bought and sold and the fascists defend it.
    Exactly my point again! Maybe we should just hit pause on being outraged about dumb shit comments about Frederick Douglas and TV Rating and spend every press resource on finding out what the hell is going on here. Between Paul Manifort's connections, the Christopher Steele dossier containing a reference to a deal offering 19% of Rosneft then after the election there happens to be a 19.5% stake sold off to a series of unknown shell companies, and Russian hackers being charged with Treason for cooperation with US....that sure is a lot of smoke for there not to be a fire.

    I don't think it's ok that he talks about crowd size at a CIA memorial or TV rating at a prayer breakfast it's embarrasing and totally beneath the office but we have to apply some perspective to this clown show. Those moments do not equal what we may or may not (again do your jobs and find out!) know about Russia
  • sleeper
    FatHobbit;1835450 wrote:I'm glad you're OK with corruption inside the democratic party.

    They fucked Bernie, paid him off, and now somehow the sjws still think he's the people's candidate because he promised to let them get a bachelor of arts for "free".

    Don't forget they were giving Hillary the debate questions before the debate.
    Russians had hacked GOP servers too and decided to not release the information. You are beyond naive if you don't think the GOP had a favored candidate either.

    You've been duped. Keep defending it.
  • sleeper
    rocketalum;1835454 wrote:Exactly my point again! Maybe we should just hit pause on being outraged about dumb shit comments about Frederick Douglas and TV Rating and spend every press resource on finding out what the hell is going on here. Between Paul Manifort's connections, the Christopher Steele dossier containing a reference to a deal offering 19% of Rosneft then after the election there happens to be a 19.5% stake sold off to a series of unknown shell companies, and Russian hackers being charged with Treason for cooperation with US....that sure is a lot of smoke for there not to be a fire.

    I don't think it's ok that he talks about crowd size at a CIA memorial or TV rating at a prayer breakfast it's embarrasing and totally beneath the office but we have to apply some perspective to this clown show. Those moments do not equal what we may or may not (again do your jobs and find out!) know about Russia
    Exactly! The world doesn't look kindly upon those that would commit treason except by Republicans.

    Party over country. Hail Trump!
  • Commander of Awesome
    The Hill ✔ @thehill JUST IN: House strikes down Obama-era regulation that blocked gun sales to mentally ill http://hill.cm/GVElnjB
    1:20 PM - 2 Feb 2017




    Other than corporate profits for the industry, I still fail to see the logic here
  • superman
    sleeper;1835434 wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-loosens-sanctions-russia-prevent-intelligence-agencies-cyberspying-hacking-a7559871.html

    And there it is. Sanctions for Russia substantially reduced. This needs to be fully investigated on the involvement with Trump manipulating the election for personal gain. The American people deserve answers. Our country is NOT for sale to foreign interests and is NOT for one individual's gain.

    When are Republicans going to grow a spine and impeach this clown?

    We have elected the enemy.
    Hahaha. #anothersleeperlie

    This story was debunked in less than an hour. This is a tweaking of the sanctions. The tweak was actually made by the Obama administration but didn't go into effect until now.
  • sleeper
    Commander of Awesome;1835463 wrote:The Hill ✔ @thehill JUST IN: House strikes down Obama-era regulation that blocked gun sales to mentally ill http://hill.cm/GVElnjB
    1:20 PM - 2 Feb 2017




    Other than corporate profits for the industry, I still fail to see the logic here
    So Trump can get one.
  • superman
    Commander of Awesome;1835463 wrote:The Hill ✔ @thehill JUST IN: House strikes down Obama-era regulation that blocked gun sales to mentally ill http://hill.cm/GVElnjB
    1:20 PM - 2 Feb 2017




    Other than corporate profits for the industry, I still fail to see the logic here
    In pretty pro gun and tend to agree with you. The only issue i had with the ban was the lack of a very concrete definition of mentally ill.
  • fish82
    "Love Trumping Hate" involves more arson and assault than I expected.
  • Commander of Awesome
    superman;1835466 wrote:In pretty pro gun and tend to agree with you. The only issue i had with the ban was the lack of a very concrete definition of mentally ill.
    The article explicitly states the following: "The rule required reporting people who receive disability benefits and have a mental health condition to the FBI’s background check system."

    So no, it doesn't have anything to do with your girlfriend calling you a psychopath and filling a police report.

    As someone who has dealt with trying to get a loved one with a mental illness disability benefits, let me tell you it's not easy.
  • superman
    Commander of Awesome;1835469 wrote:The article explicitly states the following: "The rule required reporting people who receive disability benefits and have a mental health condition to the FBI’s background check system."

    So no, it doesn't have anything to do with your girlfriend calling you a psychopath and filling a police report.

    As someone who has dealt with trying to get a loved one with a mental illness disability benefits, let me tell you it's not easy.
    I understand is not easy but I still am way about taking Constitutional rights from people without a more concrete definition.
  • sleeper
    superman;1835471 wrote:I understand is not easy but I still am way about taking Constitutional rights from people without a more concrete definition.
    I wish Republicans thought this about all constitutional rights, not just the 2nd.
  • Commander of Awesome
    superman;1835471 wrote:I understand is not easy but I still am way about taking Constitutional rights from people without a more concrete definition.
    Why, we take away all sorts of rights. See voting.
  • Commander of Awesome
    sleeper;1835472 wrote:I wish Republicans thought this about all constitutional rights, not just the 2nd.
    Bingo, no $$$ there tho. NRA is fucking powerful.
  • sleeper
    Commander of Awesome;1835475 wrote:Bingo, no $$$ there tho. NRA is fucking powerful.
    NRA is really the worst organization out there. KKK is a close second.
  • Commander of Awesome
    sleeper;1835476 wrote:NRA is really the worst organization out there. KKK is a close second.
    Eh maybe. They may be idiots and scumbags, but I'd put a lot of organizations out there that are actively killing/harming people over ones that spew ignorance.
  • superman
    Commander of Awesome;1835474 wrote:Why, we take away all sorts of rights. See voting.
    I have to have ID to buy a gun.
  • HitsRus
    fish82;1835467 wrote:"Love Trumping Hate" involves more arson and assault than I expected.
    Haha! +1 and reps
  • O-Trap
    sleeper;1835472 wrote:I wish Republicans thought this about all constitutional rights, not just the 2nd.
    Reps.
    superman;1835479 wrote:I have to have ID to buy a gun.
    And it's bullshit.
  • Commander of Awesome
    superman;1835479 wrote:I have to have ID to buy a gun.
    Technically, all you need to do to show residency within a state is proof of residence.

    Take source with a grain of salt, but https://thinkprogress.org/why-its-easier-to-buy-an-assault-weapon-than-to-vote-in-one-graphic-f9a96846f90a#.kogrm588i

    More on this (State here is Virginia) http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2012/feb/27/janet-howell/sen-janet-howell-says-its-easier-guns-virginia-vot/

    "To cast a ballot, you must show identification or sign a statement -- subject to felony conviction for false information -- that you are the registered voter you represent yourself to be. This requirement is being altered by the General Assembly this year, a point we’ll address later.

    To buy a gun from a licensed dealer in Virginia, you must show primary and secondary forms of identification. The primary document must be a state-issued photo ID. The secondary identification just needs to contain your current address and can be a utility bill, voter registration card, bank check or hunting or fishing license.

    But in the case of private guns sales -- if you buy a firearm from an individual who is not a licensed dealer -- the identification requirements go away."

    So actually, no you do not (depending on state). Might be harder to accomplish in practice at a retail store, but the ideology that you're referring to is incorrect.

    My assumption, the disparity and challenges to owning a gun will get easier with Trump, and voting will become harder.