Disgusted with Trump administration - Part I

• superman

  sleeper;1835390 wrote:http://www.businessinsider.com/us-military-officials-trump-ordered-raid-in-yemen-that-killed-us-navy-seal-was-approved-without-sufficient-intelligence-2017-2
  
  Where's the outrage by Republicans? Trump ordered a SEAL to death without sufficient evidence. American lives were lost due to the incompetence in the White House. We need a full investigation into this issue!

  So he listened to the military advisors and you are mad at him, but when he said he knew more than them, you were mad at him?
• HitsRus

  

  Commander of Awesome;1835398 wrote:But Hilary emails and Benghazi!

  Not a Trump fan, but this is not even remotely analogous.
  Besides .....What difference does it make!
• ppaw1999

  SportsAndLady;1835366 wrote:ppaw, batshit crazy people don't run billion dollar hotel companies and get elected president of the United States.
  
  You're just extremely gullible and are being manipulated by the media to believe he is crazy.
  
  He's not crazy, he's just an asshole. He says a lot of dumb shit. He's also already done a lot of good.
  
  But yeah, keep reading occupy democrat Facebook posts, it makes you sound really intelligent!

  I think Howard Hughes was batshit crazy too. You don't have to be sane to be a millionaire. I must be crazy too because I could have swore I actually heard Trump comment on his huge inauguration crowd biggest of all time. I thought I heard him comment about all the illegal votes that prevented him from winning the popular vote. And I damn well know I heard him say he knew more than our military leaders. I wish the liberal news would quit airing what actually comes out of Trump's mouth. Maybe then I wouldn't be so gullible.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  Gallup poll just came out that has 55% against the Travel Ban, 42% for it60% oppose border wall with Mexico
  58% oppose suspension of Syrian Refugee program
• wkfan

  Commander of Awesome;1835407 wrote:Gallup poll just came out that has 55% against the Travel Ban, 42% for it60% oppose border wall with Mexico
  58% oppose suspension of Syrian Refugee program

  Same polling that predicted an HRC victory?
  
  Polls are nothing more than a slightly educated guess......
• Commander of Awesome

  

  Reuters is reporting that the "countering violent extremism" program will now be re-positioned to only focus on Muslim activities abandoning white supremacist groups and other terrorist groups. No surprise there and completely asinine.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  wkfan;1835408 wrote:Same polling that predicted an HRC victory?
  
  Polls are nothing more than a slightly educated guess......

  So polls mean something when they support your view point, got it.
• HitsRus

  

  I'm surprised that even that many want the wall.... I know a lot of Trump supporters, most don't give a shit about the "wall", but all want stricter immigration policies or at least, enforcement of immigration law.
• wkfan

  Commander of Awesome;1835410 wrote:So polls mean something when they support your view point, got it.

  Not at all.....
  
  I put as much stock in any political poll as I do in a weather forecast........
  
  zero.
• Commander of Awesome

  

  wkfan;1835415 wrote:Not at all.....
  
  I put as much stock in any political poll as I do in a weather forecast........
  
  zero.

  Selective facts
  
  Ignorance is bliss amirite?
• QuakerOats

  Heretic;1835379 wrote:That's the Quaker way. Rail against biased media and follow up with stuff gleaned from even more biased media.

  
  I cited the study by a university professor the other day regarding voter fraud, and it is fact that California has an honor system.
  
  Keep shooting the messenger though.
• QuakerOats

  sleeper;1835384 wrote:https://www.buzzfeed.com/tomnamako/donald-trump-national-prayer-breakfast?utm_term=.pybj2lQBE#.keX1yJRN6
  
  The clown show gets worse and even more embarrassing. Trump talking about Apprentice TV ratings at the National Prayer Breakfast today.
  
  But at least he's making liberals cry! kappa.

  Only you and CNN thought he was serious.
  
  
  I actually listened to what he said; some of the better brief comments I have heard from a politician in a long time.
  
  
  Take care.
• QuakerOats

  He gets the press twisted in pretzels over meaningless comments, all the while going about The People's business and getting the actual work performed. Hilarious that they keep taking the bait.
• QuakerOats

  Commander of Awesome;1835407 wrote:Gallup poll just came out that has 55% against the Travel Ban, 42% for it60% oppose border wall with Mexico
  58% oppose suspension of Syrian Refugee program

  
  BIT
• fish82

  

  Commander of Awesome;1835410 wrote:So polls mean something when they support your view point, got it.

  Along those lines...two other polls favor the travel ban, 49-41 and 57-33.
• rocketalum

  Here's one place we totally agree. The press has no idea how to deal with him and keeps looking foolish chasing headlines that don't really matter. Do I think he looked like a fool talking about crowd sizes, the apprentice ratings etc. Yep! You may not and that's fine. I'd prefer someone that didn't speak in word salad format but it doesn't preclude you from doing the job.
  
  Where we'll probably part ways is my belief that the press isn't being hard enough on him in the right areas. Who gives a flip about what dumb thing came out of his mouth. Hammer his cabinet picks, do some investigative journalism into why the f Bannon has such a position of influence, beat him up on how poorly orchestrated the immigration EO was executed (Not the policy of it because again policy is debatable...execution is not...it was s*&t show of an implementation), actually investigate Russian ties instead of just throw out unsourced accusations (or stfu if there's really nothing there but do the f'ing work to find out).
  
  I don't think we have as much of a fake news problems as we have a lazy news problem. And a revenue first approach to news problem. Why do real journalistic work, which costs a lot from a man hours and resource perspective, when you can throw together a clickbait headline that will make 50% of the population go nuts thus driving more traffic and ad revenue.
  
  Just to be clear I still really really dislike Trump. I almost equally dislike the way the press and left have chosen to approach his dipshitery though.
• rocketalum

  QuakerOats;1835425 wrote:He gets the press twisted in pretzels over meaningless comments, all the while going about The People's business and getting the actual work performed. Hilarious that they keep taking the bait.

  Here's one place we totally agree. The press has no idea how to deal with him and keeps looking foolish chasing headlines that don't really matter. Do I think he looked like a fool talking about crowd sizes, the apprentice ratings etc. Yep! You may not and that's fine. I'd prefer someone that didn't speak in word salad format but it doesn't preclude you from doing the job.
  
  Where we'll probably part ways is my belief that the press isn't being hard enough on him in the right areas. Who gives a flip about what dumb thing came out of his mouth. Hammer his cabinet picks, do some investigative journalism into why the f Bannon has such a position of influence, beat him up on how poorly orchestrated the immigration EO was executed (Not the policy of it because again policy is debatable...execution is not...it was s*&t show of an implementation), actually investigate Russian ties instead of just throw out unsourced accusations (or stfu if there's really nothing there but do the f'ing work to find out).
  
  I don't think we have as much of a fake news problems as we have a lazy news problem. And a revenue first approach to news problem. Why do real journalistic work, which costs a lot from a man hours and resource perspective, when you can throw together a clickbait headline that will make 50% of the population go nuts thus driving more traffic and ad revenue.
  
  Just to be clear I still really really dislike Trump. I almost equally dislike the way the press and left have chosen to approach his dipshitery though.
• sleeper

  

  QuakerOats;1835423 wrote:Only you and CNN thought he was serious.
  
  
  I actually listened to what he said; some of the better brief comments I have heard from a politician in a long time.
  
  
  Take care.

  Right, an appropriate place to talk about your TV show ratings is the National Prayer Breakfast.
  
  Just like an appropriate place to lie about your inauguration attendance numbers is in front of the fallen CIA officers memorial.
  
  Shame!
• sleeper

  

  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-loosens-sanctions-russia-prevent-intelligence-agencies-cyberspying-hacking-a7559871.html
  
  And there it is. Sanctions for Russia substantially reduced. This needs to be fully investigated on the involvement with Trump manipulating the election for personal gain. The American people deserve answers. Our country is NOT for sale to foreign interests and is NOT for one individual's gain.
  
  When are Republicans going to grow a spine and impeach this clown?
  
  We have elected the enemy.
• rocketalum

  sleeper;1835433 wrote:Right, an appropriate place to talk about your TV show ratings is the National Prayer Breakfast.
  
  Just like an appropriate place to lie about your inauguration attendance numbers is in front of the fallen CIA officers memorial.
  
  Shame!

  sleeper;1835434 wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-loosens-sanctions-russia-prevent-intelligence-agencies-cyberspying-hacking-a7559871.html
  
  And there it is. Sanctions for Russia substantially reduced. This needs to be fully investigated on the involvement with Trump manipulating the election for personal gain. The American people deserve answers. Our country is NOT for sale to foreign interests and is NOT for one individual's gain.
  
  When are Republicans going to grow a spine and impeach this clown?
  
  We have elected the enemy.

  A perfect example of what I was just talking about. In a normal Presidency the first two should be news. With Trump you almost have to ignore them because they only serve to distract from the bigger issues. E.g. Russia, Bannon, Billionaire crony cabinet, talking to allies like they're contestants on his reality show. There's plenty of real issue to take with this guy. Chasing every mean, stupid, offensive thing he says only weakens your position if you try to come at him. It makes the press look petty and "after him" and he knows that. He may be a disaster President but he's a brilliant marketer and manipulator and he's playing his opposition like a fiddle right now.
• sleeper

  

  rocketalum;1835435 wrote:A perfect example of what I was just talking about. In a normal Presidency the first two should be news. With Trump you almost have to ignore them because they only serve to distract from the bigger issues. E.g. Russia, Bannon, Billionaire crony cabinet, talking to allies like they're contestants on his reality show. There's plenty of real issue to take with this guy. Chasing every mean, stupid, offensive thing he says on weakens your position if you try to come at him. It makes the press look petty and "after him" and he knows that. He may be a disaster President but he's a brilliant marketer and manipulator and he's playing his opposition like a fiddle right now.

  All of the above are big issues. Trump thumpers can't keep themselves straight on all his scandals.
• FatHobbit

  

  rocketalum;1835430 wrote: I don't think we have as much of a fake news problems as we have a lazy news problem. And a revenue first approach to news problem. Why do real journalistic work, which costs a lot from a man hours and resource perspective, when you can throw together a clickbait headline that will make 50% of the population go nuts thus driving more traffic and ad revenue.

  I couldn't agree more here. Did the press ever care to investigate? They sure don't now.
• FatHobbit

  

  sleeper;1835434 wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-loosens-sanctions-russia-prevent-intelligence-agencies-cyberspying-hacking-a7559871.html
  
  And there it is. Sanctions for Russia substantially reduced.

  Do you mean when Russia was sanctioned for exposing how the Democrats were manipulating the election?
  
  I love how Hillary gets caught sending classified info through unsecure email and the left tries to brand it as "just emails." They get caught manipulating the election to be sure Bernie doesn't win and somehow that is Russia manipulating the election because they exposed it. Did anyone ever prove it was Russia that did it? I thought wiki leaks said Russia was not their source?
• like_that

  

  fish82;1835428 wrote:Along those lines...two other polls favor the travel ban, 49-41 and 57-33.

  What were the questions posed for each poll?
• CenterBHSFan

  

  FatHobbit;1835441 wrote:Do you mean when Russia was sanctioned for exposing how the Democrats were manipulating the election?
  
  I love how Hillary gets caught sending classified info through unsecure email and the left tries to brand it as "just emails." They get caught manipulating the election to be sure Bernie doesn't win and somehow that is Russia manipulating the election because they exposed it. Did anyone ever prove it was Russia that did it? I thought wiki leaks said Russia was not their source?

  
  You don't need hard evidence evidence, anymore.