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Disgusted with Trump administration - Part I

  • sleeper
    QuakerOats;1857666 wrote:Comey just admitted orchestrating the leak.

    Nice.
    It's not a classified memo so it doesn't matter.
  • Heretic
    ptown_trojans_1;1857656 wrote:Yeah, +1 here. I read a little bit of it while at an event. The Flynn stuff looks just idiotic and dumb. Legally, nothing there technically, but the President does look like an idiot saying that. It does nothing to change Trump's view to many that he is a creepy dude.

    Trump is not getting impeached, but the perception of him as an idiot and aloof will continue.
    But at least this provides us with a larger catalog of DERP photos than perhaps every other president in our nation's history combined, since that seems to be one of his default expressions.
  • sleeper
    gut;1857684 wrote:While the memos are real (allegedly - still hasn't provided them to Congress), how they were presented and characterized wasn't exactly what I would call journalism.

    They intimated Trump may have committed a crime, or obstruction or whatever other sensational BS you drooled over. Oh, and they excluded the fact that Trump, in fact, was not a target of the investigation (one that is counter intel, not criminal....a fact often ignored).

    So what really happened here was a memo was used to manufacture an opinion piece - one that was inaccurate and incomplete at best - and presented as fact/journalism. That certainly IS one definition of fake news. This was going to be a bombshell, remember? Then when Comey himself addresses the memos, it ends up being a great big nothingburger (like we told you, repeatedly). Guess you can't believe everything you read in NYT and CNN.

    We've gone from Trump committing crimes, to Trump colluding, to Trump obstructing to... ."who cares just impeach him".
    I consider obstruction of justice a "bombshell" but that's just me. But yeah keep telling yourself you aren't a partisan hack.
  • gut
    sleeper;1857694 wrote:I consider obstruction of justice a "bombshell" but that's just me. But yeah keep telling yourself you aren't a partisan hack.
    Even when the FBI Director himself - the source of said "obstruction" - says it isn't obstruction. And there's no evidence the POTUS has as much as even steered or influenced thing (notwithstanding the obvious question of HOW he could even do that with 4 separate Congressional investigations and a special prosecutor).

    Congrats, you've just demonstrated that you believe Fake News if it says what you want it to say. Even CNN is walking this back (without going into the legal issues that don't support what people think it does). Sorry, I know how badly you want all of this - any of it - to be true....but the simple fact is Trump didn't have to do any of this because he could just pardon Flynn if anything happened to him.

    You would be better off to take a deep breath....and then wait a week or two before reading CNN after they've had ample time to correct the erroneous opinions they are injecting into their "news" reporting.
  • BR1986FB
    Heretic;1857678 wrote:Impression I got from reading is that he came off as a senile, rambling doofus.
    So, in other words, just a normal day for McCain?
  • sleeper
    gut;1857696 wrote:Even when the FBI Director himself - the source of said "obstruction" - says it isn't obstruction. And there's no evidence the POTUS has as much as even steered or influenced thing (notwithstanding the obvious question of HOW he could even do that with 4 separate Congressional investigations and a special prosecutor).

    Congrats, you've just demonstrated that you believe Fake News if it says what you want it to say. Even CNN is walking this back (without going into the legal issues that don't support what people think it does). Sorry, I know how badly you want all of this - any of it - to be true....but the simple fact is Trump didn't have to do any of this because he could just pardon Flynn if anything happened to him.

    You would be better off to take a deep breath....and then wait a week or two before reading CNN after they've had ample time to correct the erroneous opinions they are injecting into their "news" reporting.
    I guess we should just cancel the special prosecutor because it's a waste of time. Sounds like you got it all figured it out. Why not re-hire Flynn since that was all leaks and fake news?

    Say it with me now: "P A R T I S A N H A C K".
  • Spock
    sleeper;1857644 wrote:Nothing we didn't already know was revealed. You could easily argue that Trump committed obstruction of justice by firing Comey for the Russia stuff and trying to ask for a loyalty pledge from an independent organization.

    If Trump was a Democrat or if the Democrats owned Congress, Trump would be impeached and out the door before the end of the month. GOP continues to choose party over country.
    I didnt read through this thread feed today nor did I watch the hearing but you and your stupid comments need called out. Comey was fired because he leaked classified information to the press. HTF would that lead you to think Trump should be impeached for obstruction?
  • sleeper
    Spock;1857700 wrote:I didnt read through this thread feed today nor did I watch the hearing but you and your stupid comments need called out. Comey was fired because he leaked classified information to the press. HTF would that lead you to think Trump should be impeached for obstruction?
    He asked Comey to drop the Flynn investigation. Comey did not drop the Flynn investigation. Trump then fired Comey because he wouldn't comply.

    These are all facts now. That is text book obstruction of justice.
  • Heretic
    Spock;1857700 wrote:I didnt read through this thread feed today nor did I watch the hearing but you and your stupid comments need called out. Comey was fired because he leaked classified information to the press. HTF would that lead you to think Trump should be impeached for obstruction?
    Oh, the irony.
  • ptown_trojans_1
    Spock;1857700 wrote:I didnt read through this thread feed today nor did I watch the hearing but you and your stupid comments need called out. Comey was fired because he leaked classified information to the press. HTF would that lead you to think Trump should be impeached for obstruction?
    It was not classified information....
    It was just a conversation between him and the President.
  • jmog
    sleeper;1857644 wrote:Nothing we didn't already know was revealed. You could easily argue that Trump committed obstruction of justice by firing Comey for the Russia stuff and trying to ask for a loyalty pledge from an independent organization.

    If Trump was a Democrat or if the Democrats owned Congress, Trump would be impeached and out the door before the end of the month. GOP continues to choose party over country.
    I see you are doubling down on your buffoonery. "Comey, Comey, Comey"....then when his sworn testimony gives nothing, you just keep saying the same crap anyway.

    Your schtick is getting just comical at this point, zero substance, all comedy.
  • QuakerOats
    sleeper;1857701 wrote:He asked Comey to drop the Flynn investigation. Comey did not drop the Flynn investigation. Trump then fired Comey because he wouldn't comply.

    These are all facts now. That is text book obstruction of justice.


    Big if true.
  • sleeper
    jmog;1857704 wrote:I see you are doubling down on your buffoonery. "Comey, Comey, Comey"....then when his sworn testimony gives nothing, you just keep saying the same crap anyway.

    Your schtick is getting just comical at this point, zero substance, all comedy.
    I'll definitely take constructive criticism from someone who actually thinks the world was flooded 6,000 years ago and 2 of every animal fit onto a single boat in the Middle East. LOL
  • sleeper
    QuakerOats;1857705 wrote:Big if true.
    Put Trump under oath to refute it.
  • ptown_trojans_1
    QuakerOats;1857705 wrote:Big if true.
    Kinda true...
    Trump asked Comey to drop Flynn investigation. Comey wouldn't and then said the Russia investigation as a whole kept going. Trump got angry and said he fired Comey cause of the Russia.
    Trump himself said he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation. That is beyond doubt and no one disputed that today.
  • jmog
    sleeper;1857706 wrote:I'll definitely take constructive criticism from someone who actually thinks the world was flooded 6,000 years ago and 2 of every animal fit onto a single boat in the Middle East. LOL
    Sucks to realize when you are out of your league huh?
  • sleeper
    jmog;1857710 wrote:Sucks to realize when you are out of your league huh?
    No, you're just not worth my time. Stupid is stupid and I don't put more than .00005% of effort into stupid.
  • QuakerOats
    sleeper;1857707 wrote:Put Trump under oath to refute it.
    Nothing there.


    Let's do tax reform, repeal obamaKare, and get BIG government off our ass. The People deserve it.
  • sleeper
    QuakerOats;1857712 wrote:Nothing there.


    Let's do tax reform, repeal obamaKare, and get BIG government off our ass. The People deserve it.
    Put Trump under oath and ask him the same question. What could go right? LOL
  • ptown_trojans_1
    QuakerOats;1857712 wrote:Nothing there.


    Let's do tax reform, repeal obamaKare, and get BIG government off our ass. The People deserve it.
    According to the FBI and DOJ, there is still something there.....just saying.
  • jmog
    sleeper;1857711 wrote:No, you're just not worth my time. Stupid is stupid and I don't put more than .00005% of effort into stupid.
    This is quite obvious by most of your rants, rather stupid and you don't put any time/effort into them.
  • sleeper
    jmog;1857719 wrote:This is quite obvious by most of your rants, rather stupid and you don't put any time/effort into them.
    Why would I? You guys don't want reality, you want to be assured that your life view is accurate and that you are morally righteous. From reading your posts on here, I don't believe you to be an intelligent human with an open mind but rather a redneck religious nutjob hell bent on validating your own world view rather than reality.

    Sorry!
  • fish82
    sleeper;1857706 wrote:I'll definitely take constructive criticism from someone who actually thinks the world was flooded 6,000 years ago and 2 of every animal fit onto a single boat in the Middle East. LOL
    Coming from the guy who thinks that the POTUS can handpick which Circuit Court hears District Court appeals.

    Good stuff.
  • sleeper
    fish82;1857721 wrote:Coming from the guy who thinks that the POTUS can handpick which Circuit Court hears District Court appeals.

    Good stuff.
    Ah yes fish82. Tell me more about how you don't watch Fox News but everything you post, when you aren't flaming me, is exactly Fox News talking points.

    Tell me more please.
  • CenterBHSFan
    sleeper;1857723 wrote:Ah yes fish82. Tell me more about how you don't watch Fox News but everything you post, when you aren't flaming me, is exactly Fox News talking points.

    Tell me more please.

    Says the guy who rehashes everything that is said on the Vox website lol
    sleeper;1857268 wrote:That would require the GOP to choose country over party.
    https://www.vox.com/2017/6/8/15762458/comey-republicans-dont-care