Republican debates/primaries.
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ptown_trojans_1
On the R side: 2008, McCain. And he blew it by picking an idiot running mate.queencitybuckeye;1798263 wrote:
When is the last time a decent human being ran for this office?
I would say Obama is a decent human being, but I know most on here do not think that. -
BoatShoeslike_that;1798179 wrote:Anyone else find it ironic the majority of people who bring up race are liberals/democrats? In the libtard world, only republicans and conservatives are capable of being racist or prejudice. Anytime somebody says something that can be slightly construed as "racist" (98% a reach), liberals/dems blow a gasket playing the race card. It is intellectually lazy and pathetic. It's the biggest cop out/security blanket tactic we see day to day.
It's also sad how a lot of people eat that shit up and vote based on it. Apparently the dems got another victim in ptown. I am sure ptown will come on here and let us know how much smarter he is than anyone else on this site and why he is right and everyone else is wrong though. All this while eating his own shit, since he is so full of himself.
Ptown was pointing out how GOP leader Paul Ryan was the one who intimated Trump was a racist and isadore is a troll account. I will have to say the "I am not a hardcore conservative but I hate shitlibs and SJW's so damn much that I will tacitly support a buffoon over the dems who r teh real racists" is my favorite type of GOP voter. -
BoatShoesNot even
Not even close. Keep telling yourself that though while scores of rational republicans disavow the buffoon and lavish praise on Crooked Hillary. And, for that matter...the last time a non-decent human being overall occupied the office was probably Warren Harding or Woodrow Wilson.queencitybuckeye;1798263 wrote:On the ludicrous scale, if he's 10.0, she's easily a 9.7, 9.8.
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BoatShoes
Liberal cry babies like Paul Ryan, Jeff Flake, Mark Kirk and Hugh Hewitt. George W. Bush is going to vote for Hillary. You should too.QuakerOats;1798165 wrote:The law firm bringing the suit and the judge appear to be one-and-the-same; gee, how convenient. So the judge gets called out for a potential glaring bias, and all the liberal crybabies can do is play the racist card. To be expected. -
queencitybuckeye
Did you mean to say this or the opposite?BoatShoes;1798268 wrote:the last time a non-decent human being overall occupied the office was probably Warren Harding or Woodrow Wilson. -
jmog
I actually think Obama is a decent human being, just don't agree with his politics.ptown_trojans_1;1798264 wrote:On the R side: 2008, McCain. And he blew it by picking an idiot running mate.
I would say Obama is a decent human being, but I know most on here do not think that.
I also thought Romney was as well. The best human being we have had as actual POTUS in a long time, as much as the liberals don't want to believe it, was GWBush. Disagree with the war or his politics, the man was/is a good man.
The best human being of the 3 left in this election is by far Sanders, he just is almost as clueless as to how the world works as Palin was. -
jmog
On the ludicrous scale if Trump is a 10 (and I don't disagree with this), then Hillary is most definitely a 9. Of course, I count corruption and outright lying for no good reason (we were under sniper fire!) being ludicrous.BoatShoes;1798268 wrote:Not even
Not even close. Keep telling yourself that though while scores of rational republicans disavow the buffoon and lavish praise on Crooked Hillary. And, for that matter...the last time a non-decent human being overall occupied the office was probably Warren Harding or Woodrow Wilson. -
CenterBHSFan
Uhh... John Edwards? No?queencitybuckeye;1798263 wrote:When is the last time a decent human being ran for this office?
hmm... John Kerry? Not him, either?
Obama, Romney, Trump, Clinton, Sanders? aww, shucks!!! -
QuakerOatsBoatShoes;1798269 wrote:Liberal cry babies like Paul Ryan, Jeff Flake, Mark Kirk and Hugh Hewitt. George W. Bush is going to vote for Hillary. You should too.
Some people support the establishment; most others are willing to let it burn. I can understand the trial lawyers and others feeding at the trough running a little scared right now; without the criminal bitch in the WH, their game plans may have to change.
For God sakes, the criminality of selling influence from the State Dept for personal political gain is simply immeasurable. For anyone on here, or anywhere, to think that is ok and give it a pass is astounding.
I look forward to having someone who will get federal agencies off the asses of business and The People, and approaching trade agreements with the American worker in mind, as opposed to personal enrichment. I also look forward to some of Trump's announced SC nominee candidates getting Senate approval someday; that alone is worth voting for him instead of the criminal. -
ppaw1999I for one could never vote for Trump. His statement that McCain and the other prisoners of war are not heroes because they were captured should exclude him from ever being commander-in-chief. This from someone that had 4 deferments for school and 1 deferment for medical to avoid serving during Viet Nam. Anyone that has, is or will be wearing a uniform in service of our country should never support this individual.
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QuakerOatsHow about the lying former Sec of State who knowingly and falsely blamed the Benghazi deaths on a video, and lied directly to the family members. She ought to be imprisoned.
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ppaw1999I agree. I wish there was a viable 3rd option. Once as someone who has served in the military Trump will never get my vote.
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like_that
It's hilarious that people like you and ptown are still too blind to understand why people would vote AGAINST Hillary. You all must smoke the good shit in the libtard world [emoji23].BoatShoes;1798265 wrote:Ptown was pointing out how GOP leader Paul Ryan was the one who intimated Trump was a racist and isadore is a troll account. I will have to say the "I am not a hardcore conservative but I hate shitlibs and SJW's so damn much that I will tacitly support a buffoon over the dems who r teh real racists" is my favorite type of GOP voter. -
Heretic
Can't argue with that. Personally, I didn't agree with his war, but he just exuded a certain natural vibe that made him seem like the perfect guy to have a burger and beer with while chatting informally about stuff. Obama kind of had that, but it feels a bit more manufactured and less natural to me. Neither Hillary nor Trump are remotely even on the radar as far as that goes. To the level of "would rather die than be seen with either of them".jmog;1798272 wrote:I actually think Obama is a decent human being, just don't agree with his politics.
I also thought Romney was as well. The best human being we have had as actual POTUS in a long time, as much as the liberals don't want to believe it, was GWBush. Disagree with the war or his politics, the man was/is a good man.
The best human being of the 3 left in this election is by far Sanders, he just is almost as clueless as to how the world works as Palin was. -
ptown_trojans_1
For me it is easy.like_that;1798282 wrote:It's hilarious that people like you and ptown are still too blind to understand why people would vote AGAINST Hillary. You all must smoke the good shit in the libtard world [emoji23].
To me, I do not believe anything Trump says or does. He has not concept of Government, he is an empty suit., Everything he has ever stood for is a facade and he actually has no idea how to govern and would be a disaster.
He has no Government experience, has no ideology, does not understand anything regarding to how to govern, how to change or run a bureaucracy, how American power works, and most importantly how foreign affairs operates and the international economic order works.
He has the potential to absolutely destroy the U.S. economy with his trade wars, start wars for no reason, tick off allies, and completely undo everything we have established since 1945.
Again, if you vote for him, you are voting to radically alter the American foreign policy system that has kept world peace since 1945.
That, to me, is why I will vote and accept Clinton over Trump. He is an actual threat to the security of this country.
I am not alone either. That is why the national security field of Rs have revolted against Trump. -
ptown_trojans_1
Completely agree. I actually forgot about Romney. He is a very good guy.jmog;1798272 wrote:I actually think Obama is a decent human being, just don't agree with his politics.
I also thought Romney was as well. The best human being we have had as actual POTUS in a long time, as much as the liberals don't want to believe it, was GWBush. Disagree with the war or his politics, the man was/is a good man.
The best human being of the 3 left in this election is by far Sanders, he just is almost as clueless as to how the world works as Palin was.
Also agree on W. His work on Africa and the way he carried himself, especially his 2nd term, was great. -
like_that
Again, that's not the point. You keep giving us the reason why you are voting for Hillary over trump. We already know your reasons since you have repeated them over 100 times. 95% of us here agree with all the shit you have said about trump. We still don't think those red flags out weigh the red flags that come with Hillary.ptown_trojans_1;1798289 wrote:For me it is easy.
To me, I do not believe anything Trump says or does. He has not concept of Government, he is an empty suit., Everything he has ever stood for is a facade and he actually has no idea how to govern and would be a disaster.
He has no Government experience, has no ideology, does not understand anything regarding to how to govern, how to change or run a bureaucracy, how American power works, and most importantly how foreign affairs operates and the international economic order works.
He has the potential to absolutely destroy the U.S. economy with his trade wars, start wars for no reason, tick off allies, and completely undo everything we have established since 1945.
Again, if you vote for him, you are voting to radically alter the American foreign policy system that has kept world peace since 1945.
That, to me, is why I will vote and accept Clinton over Trump. He is an actual threat to the security of this country.
I am not alone either. That is why the national security field of Rs have revolted against Trump.
That's the point. You can't comprehend that people actually hate Hillary that much. The hate actually comes from legitimacy too, not all these liberal talking points you hear (zomg they hate Hillary because she is a women!!). The same "why the fuck would anyone vote for trump" feeling you get is shared the same way with Hillary haters as well. You're not a dumb poster, so you must purposely be acting ignorant in order to sway voters away from Trump. That's really the only explanation for your recycled narrative at this point.
Ideally all of the #nevertrump and #neverhillary supporters should vote for Gary Johnson, but none of us are willing to concede to the other evil. This election is the epitome of "lesser of two evils" and you are currently playing the dumb card on that.
As I said before, if you are using the OC as your venue to repeat your reasons for choosing Hillary, just to make yourself feel better... Then by all means go for it.
Cliff notes: both sides share equal amount of hatred for the opposing candidate. Both share that hatred for different but equally concerning issues. -
BoatShoes
Sigh. I get why people may not vote for Hillary. On pure lesser of two evils analysis the choice is Hillary if you have to choose between the two even,for a,co,servative, But millions will vote for a ludicrous buffoon who would embarass the United States instead.like_that;1798282 wrote:It's hilarious that people like you and ptown are still too blind to understand why people would vote AGAINST Hillary. You all must smoke the good shit in the libtard world [emoji23]. -
BoatShoes
I think the majority of presidents and candidates for president have been onthe whole decent men and women who love their country. I would say that Warren Harding and Woodrow Wilson, probably, onthe whole were not so decent. I would say Noxon and LBJ for their apparent flaws, were on the whole decent men.queencitybuckeye;1798270 wrote:Did you mean to say this or the opposite? -
jmog
Regardless of political views, G. Bush was absolutely the right man to be our POTUS in the days/weeks following 9/11.ptown_trojans_1;1798290 wrote:Completely agree. I actually forgot about Romney. He is a very good guy.
Also agree on W. His work on Africa and the way he carried himself, especially his 2nd term, was great. -
BoatShoesAs an aside, would be interesting if there were a voting system that could incorporate votes against specific candidates
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jmog
I agree, this would also be the year, if the US wasn't so entrenched in a 2 party system, that a Libertarian would win I believe. A more moderate libertarian, not a "abolish the Federal Reserve" type libertarian.BoatShoes;1798296 wrote:As an aside, would be interesting if there were a voting system that could incorporate votes against specific candidates
Unfortunately we are so deep in the 2 party system that a libertarian like Paul has to run as an R, and the "strong defense" side of the Republican voters kill him in the primaries.
A libertarian, conservative on taxes and liberal on social/defense policies is really the true middle ground between both sides and would whip the pants off both Hillary and Trump...except everyone in the US is too "R vs D" instead of voting the best real candidate. -
QuakerOatsBoatShoes;1798293 wrote:Sigh. I get why people may not vote for Hillary. On pure lesser of two evils analysis the choice is Hillary if you have to choose between the two even,for a,co,servative, But millions will vote for a ludicrous buffoon who would embarass the United States instead.
I know; just think how terrible it would be to have a couple decent conservatives added to the supreme court; or to actually correct our ridiculous corporate tax situation; or to put a halt to radical executive orders that assault business on a daily basis; or to actually negotiate trade deals that will not injure American workers; or to support our military and have the backs of the police; or halt illegal aliens from pouring in and receiving taxpayer paid benefits; or signing the bill to repeal obamaKare.
Please, give me the buffoon. -
BoatShoesjmog;1798299 wrote:I agree, this would also be the year, if the US wasn't so entrenched in a 2 party system, that a Libertarian would win I believe. A more moderate libertarian, not a "abolish the Federal Reserve" type libertarian.
Unfortunately we are so deep in the 2 party system that a libertarian like Paul has to run as an R, and the "strong defense" side of the Republican voters kill him in the primaries.
A libertarian, conservative on taxes and liberal on social/defense policies is really the true middle ground between both sides and would whip the pants off both Hillary and Trump...except everyone in the US is too "R vs D" instead of voting the best real candidate.
Personally I think Trump,disproves the notion most voters are basically economic libertarians and I would have agreed with you before this year. Turns out that is not even true for,most GOP voters who chose economic,protectionism.
The avg voter does not want to compete in a free market. They want to be protected. -
BoatShoes
Just to be clear, are you rank and,file GOP apparatchiks now against free trade since Trump has taken the reigns in contrast to the Reaganomics orthodoxy?QuakerOats;1798300 wrote:I know; just think how terrible it would be to have a couple decent conservatives added to the supreme court; or to actually correct our ridiculous corporate tax situation; or to put a halt to radical executive orders that assault business on a daily basis; or to actually negotiate trade deals that will not injure American workers; or to support our military and have the backs of the police; or halt illegal aliens from pouring in and receiving taxpayer paid benefits; or signing the bill to repeal obamaKare.
Please, give me the buffoon.