Republican debates/primaries.

• Con_Alma

  ptown_trojans_1;1798103 wrote:Ok, I figured.
  So a racist in the white house, which is what Paul Ryan called him, is better than a Clinton.
  
  Got you all.

  However you wish to label Mr. Trump, and there are many ways you could do so, he is preferable to me than Mrs. Clinton.
  
  He's still not my choice for President, however.
• Con_Alma

  ptown_trojans_1;1798108 wrote:...
  
  But, if some on here say he is better than Clinton, then so be it.

  Agreed. Each individual voter has the ability to use whatever criteria the choose to determine how they will cast their vote.
  
  That includes you and me.
• Heretic

  

  iclfan2;1798101 wrote:X 1000. Ptown used to have decent thoughts on here, but for a long time it has just been liberal regurgitation. Anyone supporting Hillary on her merits has to be mental.
  
  
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  I KNOW!!! And on a site where most everyone else does nothing but conservative regurgitation!! THE HORROR!!!!
  
  Especially since anyone supporting Trump on his (self-proclaimed) merits is equally mental.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  SportsAndLady;1798111 wrote:Do you not understand that politicians say shit during elections to get elected? Do you actually think he's going to start a trade war with China? Or a war with Russia?
  
  I mean, yes he'd be the president. But he doesn't have free reign to do whatever the fuck he wants.

  So you are just trusting him?
  What on earth makes you think he won't do that?
  
  Everything you read about the internal fighting inside his campaign and the way he makes decisions leads me to believe he will do whatever the hell he wants.
• Con_Alma

  Trust in candidate is probably not the route to go when trying to espouse the merits of Mrs. Clinton. The electorate has a pretty low view of trustworthiness when it comes to her...and yet some will vote for her in spite of it. Pretty ironic considering the route of this conversation.
• ptown_trojans_1

  

  I trust Clinton will stay within the confines of the existing international system and will not start a trade war or upset allies with off the cuff comments.
  That is the trust I am talking about.
• Con_Alma

  I have no doubt that you do but the electorate doesn't equate trust and Mrs. Clinton when asked.
  
  Does a candidate for the executive office deserve trust on some issues but not others???? Some see fit to give her that while others do not. I'm still lad we get to decide individually if we want to make that distinction.
• isadore

  fish82;1798071 wrote:#isaderp :laugh:

  gosh a ruddies nice to hear from a supporter of Donald Duke
• jmog

  ptown_trojans_1;1798103 wrote:Ok, I figured.
  So a racist in the white house, which is what Paul Ryan called him, is better than a Clinton.
  
  Got you all.

  I can't stand Trump at all I think Trump is an arrogant asshole, but please feel free to give me an exact quote from Trump (not some liberal media site regurgitation) that makes him racist.
• jmog

  SportsAndLady;1798111 wrote:
  I mean, yes he'd be the president. But he doesn't have free reign to do whatever the fuck he wants.

  Someone needs to tell this to Obama as well.
• jmog

  ptown_trojans_1;1798119 wrote:So you are just trusting him?
  What on earth makes you think he won't do that?
  
  Everything you read about the internal fighting inside his campaign and the way he makes decisions leads me to believe he will do whatever the hell he wants.

  There's no way you can use "trusting a candidate" and still support Hillary all in the same belief system. Unless you are so far in the tank for the left that you can't see your own hypocrisy.
  
  I truly believe that either of these candidates will be the worst POTUS we have had since Jimmy Carter (or farther back). However, Hillary is more corrupt than Nixon ever was, she makes him look like a Boy Scout. There is not nearly a thing she has campaigned on that she hasn't either switched stances on or outright lied about and been caught doing so.
  
  Think about this, can you remember ever having a POTUS candidate that was under a federal investigation by the FBI and the State Department during the campaign and STILL be the leading candidate?
  
  Now, you are 100% correct in what you say about Trump (except for maybe the racist part, I would like to see some quotes from him proving so before I agree with you). He says some stupid crap about international relations. But to use that as evidence you can 'trust' Hillary more is hypocritical unless you are blinded by her.
• QuakerOats

  ptown_trojans_1;1798103 wrote:Ok, I figured.
  So a racist in the white house, which is what Paul Ryan called him, is better than a Clinton.
  
  Got you all.

  
  Sometimes context matters ........the guy thinks he may not get a fair shake in a class action lawsuit brought by plaintiff's lawyers; he may well be correct.
  
  NEW YORK – The federal judge presiding over the Trump University class action lawsuit is a member of the San Diego La Raza Lawyers Association, a group that while not a branch of the National Council of La Raza, has ties to the controversial organization, which translates literally “The Race.”
  
  
  U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel, who has been criticized by Donald Trump as a “hater” appointed by President Obama who should be recused from the case, listed his membership in the “La Raza Lawyers of San Diego” on a judicial questionnaire he filled out when he was selected to be a federal judge. He was named in a brochure as a member of the selection committee for the organization’s 2014 Annual Scholarship Fund Dinner & Gala. Meanwhile, the San-Diego based law firm representing the plaintiffs in the Trump University case, Robbins Geller Rudman & Dowd, was listed as a sponsor of the event.
  
  WND reported the San Diego firm paid $675,000 to the Clintons for speeches, and the firm’s founder is a wealthy San Diego lawyer who served a two-year sentence in federal prison for his role in a kickback scheme to mobilize plaintiffs for class-action lawsuits.
  
  
  And this from several years ago ---
  WASHINGTON — In 2001, Sonia Sotomayor, an appeals court judge, gave a speech declaring that the ethnicity and sex of a judge “may and will make a difference in our judging.”
  In her speech, Judge Sotomayor questioned the famous notion — often invoked by Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and her retired Supreme Courtcolleague, Sandra Day O’Connor — that a wise old man and a wise old woman would reach the same conclusion when deciding cases.
  “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life,” said Judge Sotomayor, who is now considered to be near the top of President Obama’s list of potential Supreme Court nominees.
  http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/us/15judge.html?_r=0
  
  
  
  So, should he have phrased it the way he did, probably not, but the crux of the matter is what is important.
• isadore

  gosh a ruddies all that is BS. Donald Duke attack the judge because "he's a Mexican." Gosh the guy is as much an American as Donald, born a Hoosier.
• QuakerOats

  The law firm bringing the suit and the judge appear to be one-and-the-same; gee, how convenient. So the judge gets called out for a potential glaring bias, and all the liberal crybabies can do is play the racist card. To be expected.
• QuakerOats

  ptown_trojans_1;1798119 wrote:So you are just trusting him?

  
  So you are just trusting her ..... a career politician; serial liar; money-laundering phony; criminal bitch.
  
  Mind numbing.
• isadore

  lol gosh a ruddies, "racist card." Donald Duke makes an unbelievably racist statement and that is your defense. Birds of a feather.
• Heretic

  

  QuakerOats;1798165 wrote:The law firm bringing the suit and the judge appear to be one-and-the-same; gee, how convenient. So the judge gets called out for a potential glaring bias, and all the liberal crybabies can do is play the racist card. To be expected.

  I think the main guy playing the racist card is Trump with his "But, but, but he won't be fair to me because HE'S A MEXICAN!!!!!!" whining.
• like_that

  

  isadore;1798024 wrote:gosh a ruddies, the Donald is doing his best to corral the racist vote.

  isadore;1798035 wrote:gosh a ruddies while is efforts to win the white racist vote do wonders for him on this website, it does have its limitations in the rest of America.

  ptown_trojans_1;1798103 wrote:Ok, I figured.
  So a racist in the white house, which is what Paul Ryan called him, is better than a Clinton.
  
  Got you all.

  isadore;1798167 wrote:lol gosh a ruddies, "racist card." Donald Duke makes an unbelievably racist statement and that is your defense. Birds of a feather.

  Anyone else find it ironic the majority of people who bring up race are liberals/democrats? In the libtard world, only republicans and conservatives are capable of being racist or prejudice. Anytime somebody says something that can be slightly construed as "racist" (98% a reach), liberals/dems blow a gasket playing the race card. It is intellectually lazy and pathetic. It's the biggest cop out/security blanket tactic we see day to day.
  
  It's also sad how a lot of people eat that shit up and vote based on it. Apparently the dems got another victim in ptown. I am sure ptown will come on here and let us know how much smarter he is than anyone else on this site and why he is right and everyone else is wrong though. All this while eating his own shit, since he is so full of himself.
• isadore

  like_that;1798179 wrote:Anyone else find it ironic the majority of people who bring up race are liberals/democrats? In the libtard world, only republicans and conservatives are capable of being racist or prejudice. Anytime somebody says something that can be slightly construed as "racist" (98% a reach), liberals/dems blow a gasket playing the race card. It is intellectually lazy and pathetic. It's the biggest cop out/security blanket tactic we see day to day.
  
  It's also sad how a lot of people eat that shit up and vote based on it. Apparently the dems got another victim in ptown. I am sure ptown will come on here and let us know how much smarter he is than anyone else on this site and why he is right and everyone else is wrong though. All this while eating his own shit, since he is so full of himself.

  gosh a ruddies, "slightly construed as 'racjst'" There is nothing slight about Donald Duke's statements about this Hoosier born Judge.
• HitsRus

  

  
• QuakerOats

  Pretty good speech by Trump last night. He also alluded to a much more pointed speech upcoming Monday that seemed to imply he would be focusing on her criminality. That ought to be fun.
• Spock

  

  QuakerOats;1798227 wrote:Pretty good speech by Trump last night. He also alluded to a much more pointed speech upcoming Monday that seemed to imply he would be focusing on her criminality. That ought to be fun.

  Trump has the money to make sure people talk.
• BoatShoes

  Lol Senator Mark Kirk disavows Trump. Paul Ryan and Senator Flake call him a racist and Hugh Hewitt says they ought to find a new candidate. Yet, the OC conservatives cannot accept that Hillary is a better candidate than him if even for the low bar that she is not completely ludicrous. Same inability to accept reality that gave Obama 300electoral votes with 8% unemployment. Go Trump!
• BoatShoes

  HitsRus;1798218 wrote:

  The GOP nominated Donald Trump lol. Rest assured George W. Bush, John McCain and Mitt Romney will secretly vote for Hillary. You should too.
• queencitybuckeye

  BoatShoes;1798258 wrote:Lol Senator Mark Kirk disavows Trump. Paul Ryan and Senator Flake call him a racist and Hugh Hewitt says they ought to find a new candidate. Yet, the OC conservatives cannot accept that Hillary is a better candidate than him if even for the low bar that she is not completely ludicrous.

  On the ludicrous scale, if he's 10.0, she's easily a 9.7, 9.8.
  
  When is the last time a decent human being ran for this office?