Republican debates/primaries.

• Midstate01

  

  I can't believe we are about to have to choose between Trump and Hillary. Sad day for America.
  
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• Devils Advocate

  

  Heretic;1794758 wrote:Yeah, but it will be fun over the next six months watching Quaker going crazy trying to convince himself and anyone who actually pretends to take him seriously that Trump will (if he takes office) immediately change from a flamboyantly over-the-top asshole

  I wonder if he would actually bet his balls on it?
• ppaw1999

  wildcats20;1794763 wrote:Kasich is out.

  Was he ever in? If there is a third party on the ballot they get my vote. It will be a wasted vote no matter who I vote for :RpS_bored:
• CenterBHSFan

  

  like_that;1794749 wrote:Yes, but add isadore for Hillary.

  And add Ptown for any democrat.
• CenterBHSFan

  

  FatHobbit;1794762 wrote:This is the one thing that tempts me to vote for Trump. Once Hillary is elected the second amendment is doomed.

  Just write-in Ted Nugent lol!
  
  [video=youtube;wv5HJkp5sY0][/video]
• QuakerOats

  sleeper;1794757 wrote:Lower tax rates do not necessarily generate higher tax revenues. It's a curve; so finding the optimal balance is the important part and I think we are significantly lower than optimal with our current individual tax structure. On corporate tax rates, I would agree that they are far too high and not competitive with the rest of the world. I'd like to see individual rates rise slightly for everyone(1%) and the creation of a new tax bracket for income over $2M at 48%. In addition, corporate tax rates should be reduced to 25% to fall more in line with the rest of the world. I'd also add a one-time provision allowing for companies to repatriate any international cash holdings at a rate of 15%; then in the same motion, ban any future provisions allowing for this to happen again.
  
  The $800B went to increases in the entitlement programs from more and more Boomers retiring. Glad to see you are willing to cut entitlement programs by 33% though; good luck in convincing politicians to cut money from old people! I agree on eliminating the DoE but not the EPA although I would certainly be more than open to reducing the size of scope of all federal agencies. There's a ton of waste in government.

  
  I agree on the corp tax side and would hope we can figure out a good way to repatriate the $2 trillion. Although doing that makes little sense when those businesses would do well not to risk that capital in the US so long as we have marxists and other WH radicals in charge who are completely anti-business. I would not re-invest a dime until they were gone.
  
  And no, the extra $800B did not go to boomers, it was the TARP plan and related bailouts etc..... It was 'one-time'; why has the spending not dropped back to pre-Tarp levels? Oh wait, unemployment is really 20%+, so we are keeping them afloat.
• QuakerOats

  Heretic;1794758 wrote:Yeah, but it will be fun over the next six months watching Quaker going crazy trying to convince himself and anyone who actually pretends to take him seriously that Trump will (if he takes office) immediately change from a flamboyantly over-the-top asshole into a bastion of conservative values.

  Who said that he would do that??!! Keep making shit up, though.
  
  I clearly, and simply, laid out the policy differences in one paragraph, period. I am sorry you had to go off on a tangent again to re-define my points.
• rrfan

  

  Cruz made a lot of huge mistakes but I am glad to see him go. Kasich got off to one of the worst starts ever possible and finally makes the right choice to get out.
• sleeper

  

  QuakerOats;1794794 wrote:I agree on the corp tax side and would hope we can figure out a good way to repatriate the $2 trillion. Although doing that makes little sense when those businesses would do well not to risk that capital in the US so long as we have marxists and other WH radicals in charge who are completely anti-business. I would not re-invest a dime until they were gone.
  
  And no, the extra $800B did not go to boomers, it was the TARP plan and related bailouts etc..... It was 'one-time'; why has the spending not dropped back to pre-Tarp levels? Oh wait, unemployment is really 20%+, so we are keeping them afloat.

  Keep telling yourself that. The reality is, the entitlement programs will soon eat the entire budget minus some scraps for everything else. The government will only have enough money for entitlements, interest on the national debt, and some change for national defense.
  
  I doubt we will ever see a decrease to the corporate tax rate or any adjustment to the individual rate no matter who is President. Financials issues are usually kicked down the road until the whole dance stops.
• sleeper

  

  rrfan;1794809 wrote:Cruz made a lot of huge mistakes but I am glad to see him go. Kasich got off to one of the worst starts ever possible and finally makes the right choice to get out.

  Have you read Trump's foreign policy interview yet and provided a response as to why you still want that shit as President?
  
  He literally talks about his concern for nuclear proliferation and then 2 seconds later talks about how Korea and Japan need their own nukes. LOL. Moron is being nice; he's a moron.
• QuakerOats

  So the 'non-moron' who led our foreign policy disasters globally, and sat idle while 4 American diplomats were killed by terrorists, and then lied about it, and then covered it up, is the better choice.
  
  
  WOW.
  
  Talk about moronic.
• sleeper

  

  QuakerOats;1794820 wrote:So the 'non-moron' who led our foreign policy disasters globally, and sat idle while 4 American diplomats were killed by terrorists, and then lied about it, and then covered it up, is the better choice.
  
  
  WOW.
  
  Talk about moronic.

  Spare me the hyperbole.
  
  Trump. LOL
• QuakerOats

  You can have her /// good luck; you will need that, and more.
• sleeper

  

  QuakerOats;1794836 wrote:You can have her /// good luck; you will need that, and more.

  Donald Trump. That's your guy, you OWN IT!
• Terry_Tate

  

  I have no idea how any reasonable thinker could support Donald Trump. I don't like Hillary Clinton at all but I'd easily take her over Trump.
• Crimson streak

  

  Terry_Tate;1794840 wrote:I have no idea how any reasonable thinker could support Donald Trump. I don't like Hillary Clinton at all but I'd easily take her over Trump.

  As an average person who isn't huge in politics, I'll say this... I'm tired of the same old shit. The country is in terrible debt, unemployment is awful, the country has turned into weak ass pussies, obamacare is a fucking joke, we have become such a weak country and Hillary Clinton isn't going to change that. Could trump be horrible? Yes he could but at the same time no one knows what he will bring. At least what we know we will get from trump is that we won't be god damn pussies any more and the free hand outs will stop. At least trump is qualified enough to help our economy grow and create some jobs where the middle class won't struggle to make ends meet. I'm willing to give him the chance over Hillary will it will be the same old shit for another 4 years
• iclfan2

  

  Terry_Tate;1794840 wrote:I have no idea how any reasonable thinker could support Donald Trump. I don't like Hillary Clinton at all but I'd easily take her over Trump.

  But supporting Hillary is reasonable? Just as bad as a trump supporter. She blamed 4 American deaths on a YouTube video. Oh and stayed with her husband screwing everyone for political gain.
  
  I don't plan on voting for either btw, but may get swayed to vote Trump simply because of the Supreme Court nomination, bc of the 2nd amendment.
• Belly35

  

  FatHobbit;1794762 wrote:This is the one thing that tempts me to vote for Trump. Once Hillary is elected the second amendment is doomed.

  from my cold dead hand will I give up my weapons, to any politician or laws passed without a American vote on the second amendment, 15 crazy Vietnam vets will stand beside me armed and ready to fight .... You can give up your registration weapons but some of us registrated our weapons under the documentation of freedom, liberty and we as American citizen and those of us as soldiers have the right of weapon ownership end of story.
• like_that

  

  Trump already talking about how he is open to raising the min wage LOL. Now that he has his base of voters on the right, he is going to try and steal hillarys group by leaning to the left on some issues.
• sleeper

  

  Belly35;1794846 wrote:from my cold dead hand will I give up my weapons, to any politician or laws passed without a American vote on the second amendment, 15 crazy Vietnam vets will stand beside me armed and ready to fight .... You can give up your registration weapons but some of us registrated our weapons under the documentation of freedom, liberty and we as American citizen and those of us as soldiers have the right of weapon ownership end of story.

  Internet tough guy.
• HitsRus

  

  http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/278704-trump-interested-in-vetting-kasich-for-vp
  
  
  LOL...Trump interested in vetting Kasich for VP.
  
  I don't know if I can vote for Trump, but I do know I won't vote for Clinton or Sanders. I could vote third party if they fit my convictions enough to outweigh throwing my vote away. If Trump would pick Kasich, I would probably vote for him for the reason that he would be bringing some real experience into his administration, and that it would be good indirectly for Ohio.
• friendfromlowry

  Crimson streak;1794841 wrote:As an average person who isn't huge in politics, I'll say this... I'm tired of the same old shit. The country is in terrible debt, unemployment is awful, the country has turned into weak ass pussies, obamacare is a fucking joke, we have become such a weak country and Hillary Clinton isn't going to change that. Could trump be horrible? Yes he could but at the same time no one knows what he will bring. At least what we know we will get from trump is that we won't be god damn pussies any more and the free hand outs will stop. At least trump is qualified enough to help our economy grow and create some jobs where the middle class won't struggle to make ends meet. I'm willing to give him the chance over Hillary will it will be the same old shit for another 4 years

  Millions of uninformed opinions like this is why Trump is about to secure the nomination. "The country sucks. I assume it'll still suck with Hillary. Trump is a business man. He'll fix the economy and we won't be pussies anymore." Bland, whatever statements.
• QuakerOats

  Terry_Tate;1794840 wrote:I have no idea how any reasonable thinker could support Donald Trump. I don't like Hillary Clinton at all but I'd easily take her over Trump.

  Because most reasonable thinkers would never vote for an inept, lying, money-laundering, criminal phony for starters. Then add in the issue of the Supreme Court, the 2nd amendment, and the completion of obama's marxist policy agenda and most real Americans and all reasonable thinkers would disqualify her right out of the gate. That's how.
• rrfan

  

  QuakerOats;1794903 wrote:Because most reasonable thinkers would never vote for an inept, lying, money-laundering, criminal phony for starters. Then add in the issue of the Supreme Court, the 2nd amendment, and the completion of obama's marxist policy agenda and most real Americans and all reasonable thinkers would disqualify her right out of the gate. That's how.

  This is how I feel too. All this name calling because we all have a different view. If it is Hillary and Trump which is what it will be I will take Trump everytime! No way on earth I would vote Hillary.
• Automatik

  

  You two....reasonable thinkers?
  
  
  LOL