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  • believer
    Ty Webb;465540 wrote:Why didn't Bush send steak from Crawford to the inner-city when he was on vacation?? Why wasn't he in NO every two weeks after Katrina? Why did he just sit there for seven minutes after learning of 9/11?
    When all else fails, blame Bush.
  • Ty Webb
    Hey...it's a legit arguement started by MB
  • Manhattan Buckeye
    Ty Webb;465602 wrote:Hey...it's a legit arguement started by MB
    Yeah its a legit argument, especially when the current administration has the benefit of the opportunity to learn from recent mistakes of the previous administration, yet not only makes similar mistakes....makes even bigger mistakes! The W administration increased the deficit...let's just increase the deficit by a multiple!
  • cbus4life
    The real Ty Webb would be ashamed of this Ty Webb.
  • fish82
    cbus4life;465808 wrote:The real Ty Webb would be ashamed of this Ty Webb.

    QFT
  • Belly35
    [video=youtube;yrATS4mthX4&feature=player_embedded][/video]
  • Gblock
    our country has become a country of consumers.....we buy products that are already manufactured we no longer make things using raw materials in general this creates an automatic deficit that until it is fixed it doesnt matter who is in office or what you do the economy is not going to improve or change imo
  • CenterBHSFan
    Interesting video Belly, I agree with alot of it.
  • BGFalcons82
    CenterBHSFan;469342 wrote:Interesting video Belly, I agree with alot of it.

    In the words of an Obama campaign stop....Michael Berry has fired me up and I'm ready to go.
  • QuakerOats
    Blame the electorate because they have found out the real socialist agenda and don't like it ...... wow

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703882404575520044037709702.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop=

    Change we can believe in .........
  • CenterBHSFan
    QuakerOats;501369 wrote:Blame the electorate because they have found out the real socialist agenda and don't like it ...... wow

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703882404575520044037709702.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop=

    Change we can believe in .........

    tsk tsk tsk!

    Mr. Obama graciously implied that a small subset of the movement is simply motivated by bigotry.
    The President said "there are probably some aspects of the Tea Party that are a little darker, that have to do with anti-immigrant sentiment or are troubled by what I represent as the President."

  • QuakerOats
    http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/dick-morris/121487-obliterating-a-generation
  • CenterBHSFan
    what do you think about that column?
  • I Wear Pants
    QuakerOats: Linkbot extraordinaire.

    I'm very disappointed in Obama's overall inability to go with what he believes (or has said he believes). Particularly in the telecommunications sector where he's been basically silent on his support of network neutrality since he was elected. This shit is important.
  • Footwedge
    Gblock;469252 wrote:our country has become a country of consumers.....we buy products that are already manufactured we no longer make things using raw materials in general this creates an automatic deficit that until it is fixed it doesnt matter who is in office or what you do the economy is not going to improve or change imo
    A+.
  • BGFalcons82
    I see lots of posts on this website and others that correctly state we've lost our manufacturing base. It is proven that the vast amount of innovation and product spawning occurs in the USA, yet the manufacturing of said products is done overseas with cheap labor and cheap materials at times.

    So....how do we re-juvinate the manufacturing side of the equation...from textiles to electronics to cars? This isn't an easy question, but to me, the opportunities are available. Why is the cost of labor so high in the USA as compared to countries that import raw materials, manufacture them into parts, and then export them to the USA for consumption? If we innovate so well, then why can't we translate that into efficient production in the USA?

    Please don't respond that this started with Reagan and we're doomed forever. While we could argue ad nauseum, however it doesn't help the discussion one little bit. All things are cyclical, so how do we enhance the cycle to get our factories producing in the USA? What does the future hold that we can use to our advantage over...say....Vietnam or Indonesia?
  • jhay78
    CenterBHSFan;501663 wrote:what do you think about that column?

    I'll tell you what I think- and what I think Quaker thinks: Dick Morris, while not exactly a neutral source, is not a right-wing hack either, and knows a thing or two about political strategy. I said this on another thread (about Strickland-Kasich), and Morris sums it up well:
    The Democratic campaigns they are waging are formulaic. They make no attempt to defend the administration, but run away from it where possible. They never mention the words stimulus, healthcare reform, card-check, GM takeover or cap-and-trade.

    Instead, they are running almost exclusively negative ads. They base their campaigns on tax liens, failed marriages, DWIs and the like. Where there is a paucity of dirt, they resort to three prefab negatives: that their opponent favors a 23 percent national sales tax, that he wants to privatize Social Security and that he is shipping jobs overseas.
    Seriously, he just described to a tee the campaign of my congressman, John Boccieri.

    Heard Dick Morris on Hannity this afternoon, and he said, without hesitation, that he expects the Republicans to take the Senate and gain 60-80 seats in the House. Then he said (and I almost fell off my chair when he did) that 100 seats changing to R is not out of the realm of possiblity.
  • Footwedge
    BGFalcons82;501908 wrote:I see lots of posts on this website and others that correctly state we've lost our manufacturing base. It is proven that the vast amount of innovation and product spawning occurs in the USA, yet the manufacturing of said products is done overseas with cheap labor and cheap materials at times.

    So....how do we re-juvinate the manufacturing side of the equation...from textiles to electronics to cars? This isn't an easy question, but to me, the opportunities are available. Why is the cost of labor so high in the USA as compared to countries that import raw materials, manufacture them into parts, and then export them to the USA for consumption? If we innovate so well, then why can't we translate that into efficient production in the USA?

    Please don't respond that this started with Reagan and we're doomed forever. While we could argue ad nauseum, however it doesn't help the discussion one little bit. All things are cyclical, so how do we enhance the cycle to get our factories producing in the USA? What does the future hold that we can use to our advantage over...say....Vietnam or Indonesia?
    Labor cost is a part of the equation....but blaming the high cost of labor in the US is only one tiny part of the problem. There are easy solutions.....but the elite have no interest in keeping Americans employed. By elites, I'm talking about the major players on Wall Street, and the enablers in the government.

    Wall Street is fretting the impending "doom and gloom" as the upward spiral of wages (in China) is dipping into their pocket books. If you want to learn more on what could be done....should be done....but never will be done....google conservative, but very pragmatic Paul Craig Roberts. Or buy a book by German conservative author Geunther Steingart.
  • believer
    Footwedge;502018 wrote:Labor cost is a part of the equation....but blaming the high cost of labor in the US is only one tiny part of the problem. There are easy solutions.....but the elite have no interest in keeping Americans employed. By elites, I'm talking about the major players on Wall Street, and the enablers in the government.

    Wall Street is fretting the impending "doom and gloom" as the upward spiral of wages (in China) is dipping into their pocket books.
    I agree with you on these points Footwedge. Also agree with BG on the point that these things are cyclical. You even allude to that in your comment, "Wall Street is fretting the impending "doom and gloom" as the upward spiral of wages (in China) is dipping into their pocket books."

    The key to an American turnaround in my opinion is equilibrium. I firmly believe that sooner or later Chinese wages will rise and American wages (and consumption power) will decline enough that American-made products will once again seem profitable to the Wall Street and government elites.

    It should come as no surprise to anyone that these things are occurring...and quite painful. The key to a semi-free market peppered with a modicum of socialism is the age-old economic reality of the law of supply & demand.

    Right now the Chinese are supplying Wall Street (and of course the American consumer) with inexpensive products for relatively wealthy Americans to consume. As time goes on those products will become more expensive as Chinese workers clamor for higher wages to improve their own quality of living. Meanwhile that American wealth will also decline meaning less consumption of the increasingly expensive Chinese-made goods.

    The scary part of the equation in my opinion is that when this finally occurs and the Chinese government feels the economic pinch, they will call in the billions (trillions?) of dollars of debt our own government owes them.

    The other major disadvantages in this relationship is that the Chinese have far, far fewer environmental regulations to deal with than American manufacturers and the Chinese government also has a propensity to prop up its manufacturing base with subsidies to a much higher degree than the United States (with the exceptions of farm subsidies, bank bailout's, and Government Motors of course ;)).

    We have a precarious relationship with the Chi-coms right now. The Chinese are rapidly embracing capitalism while we clamor for more socialism. As our ability to to produce declines and the Chinese continue to kick our economic ass, sooner or later the bill will come due.

    Will we default by necessity causing a world-wide economic calamity that will make Americans long for the good ol' days of the Great Recession or will Wall Street and government elites finally figure out that the key to a healthy economic future is a strong American manufacturing base?
  • QuakerOats
    CenterBHSFan;501663 wrote:what do you think about that column?

    Dick Morris, like him or not, is highly astute.
  • Ty Webb
    Obama Would Fend Off Clinton Primary Challenge
    If Secretary of State Hillary Clinton were to challenge President Obama for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2012, a new Gallup poll finds she would be defeated handily, 52% to 37%.
  • Ty Webb
    http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/10/02/democrats_trusted_on_nearly_every_issue.html

    Democrats Trusted on Nearly Every Issue
    A new Newsweek poll finds voters said "they trust Democrats more than Republicans to handle pretty much every problem currently facing the country: Afghanistan (by 6 points), health care (by 12), immigration (by 2, though that figure is within the margin of error), Social Security (by 14), unemployment (by 12), financial reform (by 14), energy (by 19), and education (by 19). Voters even prefer Democrats to Republicans on federal spending (by 4 points), taxes (by 5), and the economy (by 10)--the GOP's core concerns. The only area where Republicans outpoll Democrats is the issue of terrorism, where they lead by a 6-point margin
  • BGFalcons82
    Ty Webb;504832 wrote:http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/10/02/democrats_trusted_on_nearly_every_issue.html

    Democrats Trusted on Nearly Every Issue
    A new Newsweek poll finds voters said "they trust Democrats more than Republicans to handle pretty much every problem currently facing the country: Afghanistan (by 6 points), health care (by 12), immigration (by 2, though that figure is within the margin of error), Social Security (by 14), unemployment (by 12), financial reform (by 14), energy (by 19), and education (by 19). Voters even prefer Democrats to Republicans on federal spending (by 4 points), taxes (by 5), and the economy (by 10)--the GOP's core concerns. The only area where Republicans outpoll Democrats is the issue of terrorism, where they lead by a 6-point margin

    Newsweek, eh? Weren't they sold for one fresh crisp American dollar a little while ago? Really, I'm shocked the polling was this close in their mind. Maybe they should team up with the Daily Kos to come up with wider margins.

    This is a laughable poll and Newseek carries zero credibility as a news organization.
  • fish82
    Ty Webb;504832 wrote:http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/10/02/democrats_trusted_on_nearly_every_issue.html

    Democrats Trusted on Nearly Every Issue
    A new Newsweek poll finds voters said "they trust Democrats more than Republicans to handle pretty much every problem currently facing the country: Afghanistan (by 6 points), health care (by 12), immigration (by 2, though that figure is within the margin of error), Social Security (by 14), unemployment (by 12), financial reform (by 14), energy (by 19), and education (by 19). Voters even prefer Democrats to Republicans on federal spending (by 4 points), taxes (by 5), and the economy (by 10)--the GOP's core concerns. The only area where Republicans outpoll Democrats is the issue of terrorism, where they lead by a 6-point margin
    Awesome poll. Obviously the dems will pick up several seats in a few weeks. :rolleyes:
  • believer
    Ty Webb;504832 wrote:http://politicalwire.com/archives/2010/10/02/democrats_trusted_on_nearly_every_issue.html

    Democrats Trusted on Nearly Every Issue
    A new Newsweek poll finds voters said "they trust Democrats more than Republicans to handle pretty much every problem currently facing the country: Afghanistan (by 6 points), health care (by 12), immigration (by 2, though that figure is within the margin of error), Social Security (by 14), unemployment (by 12), financial reform (by 14), energy (by 19), and education (by 19). Voters even prefer Democrats to Republicans on federal spending (by 4 points), taxes (by 5), and the economy (by 10)--the GOP's core concerns. The only area where Republicans outpoll Democrats is the issue of terrorism, where they lead by a 6-point margin
    Leftist Newsweak. LMAO