posted by SportsAndLady

Yeah but you can’t play a season at the same time the draft is going on lol the draft is in April. So let’s say the NCAAF season is February-April, you get drafted in April and then you are in training camp in July? That just won’t work, those players need the 6 months off to get their bodies healthy for another season.

True, but I feel like it has been done before with a few guys playing in the XFL in the spring and then making an NFL roster that year.  The NFL now has a lot fewer padded practices than in the past, and most of the guys in the bottom half of the draft and UDFA's won't see the field as rookies.

Wasn’t it like two months ago when Gene Smith said not only could they play, but could probably do it with the stadium half full as well? 

COVID effects the young at way to high of a percentage, society doesn't want football to exist without a vaccine, the numbers for 18-30 year olds having critical exposure is way too high, don't see how to expect football ever again, influenza also comes every year and people get sick, with most Americans being  metabolically broken, we can't risk anything anymore

posted by Verbal Kint

COVID effects the young at way to high of a percentage, society doesn't want football to exist without a vaccine, the numbers for 18-30 year olds having critical exposure is way too high, don't see how to expect football ever again, influenza also comes every year and people get sick, with most Americans being  metabolically broken, we can't risk anything anymore

Jesus Christ, speak English mother fucker (Samuel L voice)

Apparently a number of athletes have had heart damage from the virus.  While it's normally temporary, it does carry elevated risk until it heals.  And the story is the colleges weren't comfortable putting athletes in harm's way.

But it begs the question I keep asking - if that's the case, then how do you justify having ANY kids on campus...to go to virtual classes?!?

Great opportunity for the numerous highly paid administrators at Ohio State to revisit that incredibly worthwhile effort to copyright the word "The".  Tuition dollars at work. 

posted by gut

Apparently a number of athletes have had heart damage from the virus.  While it's normally temporary, it does carry elevated risk until it heals.  And the story is the colleges weren't comfortable putting athletes in harm's way.

But it begs the question I keep asking - if that's the case, then how do you justify having ANY kids on campus...to go to virtual classes?!?

Is this a new form of myocarditis or similar to the past myocarditis that has always been caused by viruses?

posted by Verbal Kint

Is this a new form of myocarditis or similar to the past myocarditis that has always been caused by viruses?

Not new, but appears to be a more frequent side effect.  It's not understood - I didn't read on whether it's more severe, or longer lasting, or just how much more prevalent it is than other viruses.  Only that about 5 Big Ten players have had it, and one MLB is out for the year now because of the condition.

I don't feel like people believe players are going to be less safe within the football program.  So it comes back to if the real issue is protecting them from this potentially dangerous side affect, then you have to shutdown the entire campus.

The Big Ten is so dumb. It is not like they had months to plan this out...Jim Delaney picked the right time to retire.....

Last night, the Big Ten began hypothetically discussing what teams would do in the fall *if* the season got moved to the spring. It was contentious, as the bigger programs still want to play this fall. It marked one of the first hypothetical conversations about this topic.

— Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) August 11, 2020

Official now. Moved to Spring. 

I don't hate it. Glad they went this route instead of cancelling entirely.

Now how will this mess with the draft? Next season? 

posted by Automatik

Official now. Moved to Spring. 

I don't hate it. Glad they went this route instead of cancelling entirely.

Now how will this mess with the draft? Next season? 

I do hate it. The best players aren't going to play in spring, and what is going to change from now? 

I could see spring football sucking. 

Just the Big Ten moved to spring right?  What happens if the other power 5 conferences don't follow suit?  

Makes little sense to me. Not going to at least try? And why are you gonna make student athletes come back to take classes but can’t play football? Makes no sense 

posted by like_that

Just the Big Ten moved to spring right?  What happens if the other power 5 conferences don't follow suit?  

The pac 12 is voting today at 5 EST and they’re expected to follow big ten’s move to spring  

Puts pressure on SEC big 12 and ACC to just do the same and have a season in the fall. But my guess is they’ll continue the season in the fall, without the other two. 

posted by iclfan2

I do hate it. The best players aren't going to play in spring, and what is going to change from now? 

I agree with this. Elite players aren't going to be around for that shit (low-round and fringe draft picks, sure; but say goodbye to Justin Fields, Shaun Wade, etc.) and there's no guarantee things will be all perfect and everything will be cool. And it'll potentially be a real bitch for recruiting when you have players and coaches all about playing the season and getting overruled by a handful of suits. All you need is the SEC to say they're playing and have fun watching a mass exodus.

By by to top talent in B1G.

Conference is gonna suck for years to come

That's a hot take. Will recruits go elsewhere because one fucked year?

Imagine being a coach. You were suppose to be playing in a few weeks. Now that’s put on hold for six months, best case scenario. 

posted by Automatik

That's a hot take. Will recruits go elsewhere because one fucked year?

If the SEC and Big 12 play I could see guys like Garrett Wilson and a ton of talent transferring and playing this year for another school.

Spring football seems like a real stretch too - for a lot of reasons.  It sounds more like a way to placate people when you're delivering bad news.  Like Larry, the mayor Amity in Jaws:

SHOP OWNER: Are you going to close the beaches?
CHIEF BROODY: Yes...we are.

Uncomfortable silence, and then...

MAYOR LARRY: Only for 24 hours!  Only for 24 hours!

Even spring football seems like a stretch. They’re obviously just waiting for the vaccine. What are the odds that six months from now it’s been fully developed, released, and distributed? 

I think we’ll have one in that time. But the distributing it and everyone receiving it and proving the numbers are going down with it is concerning. 

Yeah, at least 2 weeks, maybe a month, after administration for the vaccine to protect you.  I'd guess optimistically players could be vaccinated by the end of March.  Too late to have a season at that point.

Football postponed until next year...in the fall. 

If we're lucky, maybe we can have basketball this year.  The NBA has shown you can stop it from spreading with diligent protocols. 

I feel like they may have exposed themselves to a huge liability.  Again, if it's not safe to play football, it's not safe to have students on campus.  They chose their statements poorly, ostensibly admitting they can't cocoon their campus.  And no one claims they could, but now that you've canceled sports for health/safety reasons...lawsuits are inevitable.

Not a surprise. I am pretty bummed.

I really liked the Pac12 releasing the medical documents and concerns. It seems like the unknowns, especially regarding potential heart impacts is what drove the decisions. 

I think this whole mess (COVID, not necessarily the postponing of the season) is going to be what pushes the P5 conferences to split from the NCAA and form their own entity.

The smaller conferences are going to take an bath financially from this. I wouldn't be surprised to see some schools give up programs as a result.