HS sports are going bye bye soon.  

posted by Spock

HS sports are going bye bye soon.  

They gave VB, Golf, Tennis the go ahead.  What makes you say this?

Notre Dame playing in the ACC this season 

posted by ernest_t_bass

They gave VB, Golf, Tennis the go ahead.  What makes you say this?

Pretty lazy not to be able to make XC work too

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Every day I'm feeling less and less optimistic about college football.  Regardless of personal opinions of COVID stuff, the prevailing storylines all seem to be headed in the direction of the sport paining itself into a corner.  If outbreaks of unspecified sizes happen and cause programs to entirely shut down for some period now, how will that change in 6-8 weeks?  I do not see any merit in the "conference games only" plan insomuch that it does little to mitigate the real risks of bringing the virus into a particular locker room.  

I don't know, I just have a bad feeling I guess.  And if there are no fans in attendance, I'm not sure watching games would be all that much fun anyway.

I agree with all of this. I don’t have much confidence in it.

COVID effects the young at way to high of a percentage, no way football exist without a vaccine, the numbers for 18-30 year olds having critical exposure is way too high, actually don't expect football ever again, influenza also comes every year and people get sick, so don't touch the shopping carts

Stop being a dumbass.

posted by ernest_t_bass

They gave VB, Golf, Tennis the go ahead.  What makes you say this?

At this point everything has the go ahead.  All sports, contact or not, are starting mandatory practices in 2 days.  THe "go ahead" was for scrimmages and contests which arent going to start for a few weeks anyways.  

I would be surprised anything is still up and running by the middle of August.

posted by Verbal Kint

COVID effects the young at way to high of a percentage, no way football exist without a vaccine, the numbers for 18-30 year olds having critical exposure is way too high, actually don't expect football ever again, influenza also comes every year and people get sick, so don't touch the shopping carts

You’re a moron  

posted by Ironman92

Pretty lazy not to be able to make XC work too

Probably soccer, too. I mean, it was the first pro sport to come back and hold games at the pro level and the athletes tend to be pretty spread out and it's outdoors. Just seems weird to draw a line that says volleyball is cool and soccer isn't.

posted by Heretic

Probably soccer, too. I mean, it was the first pro sport to come back and hold games at the pro level and the athletes tend to be pretty spread out and it's outdoors. Just seems weird to draw a line that says volleyball is cool and soccer isn't.

Who was it that posted they read the virus in the states is more contagious than the US? That might be an explanation for the few positives in European soccer.

I originally said we will have football, but watching the MLB struggling after one week makes me want to hedge my prediction....

Organizations will soon realize the jury pool has seen way to much mass media and decide the courts will not be favorable for participation in team sports, not worth the risk

posted by like_that

Who was it that posted they read the virus in the states is more contagious than the US?

Might have been me.  I haven't seen that, specifically, but it explains a lot of things going on here with schools, kids, outbreaks, etc...Compare Sweden to Florida or Texas - can't be the same, equally infectious strain can it?

The study I saw was from Chicago that identified 3 major strains in the city: Wuhan (1% of samples), a moderate strain (8%) and the predominant one in the US (62%).  That predominant one was 10X as contagious as Wuhan.  All they said was the moderate strain was moderately contagious relative to the other two.  But a blurb I saw in April was the Euopean strain was 4X as contagious as Wuhan.  In terms of mortality/severity, there was no difference in strains.

The Wuhan virus clearly could be contained and defeated.  What we have can't.  10X as contagious as Wuhan basically means if you look at someone with the virus, you get it.

Seeing a lot of negative talk about college football on Twitter today. Pat Forde making it seem like postponement of the season will come this week. 

posted by friendfromlowry

Seeing a lot of negative talk about college football on Twitter today. Pat Forde making it seem like postponement of the season will come this week. 

Thing is, if you're going to have kids on campus then you might as well play football.  Because playing or not playing isn't going to substantially impact their risk in the greater student community.

Players are supposed to be tested regularly.  So if one tests positive, you can get them treatment/monitoring sooner and you quarantine to protect their teammates.  They're are actually less safe/protected without the regular testing provided by football.

posted by Heretic

Probably soccer, too. I mean, it was the first pro sport to come back and hold games at the pro level and the athletes tend to be pretty spread out and it's outdoors. Just seems weird to draw a line that says volleyball is cool and soccer isn't.

But their hips touch sometimes

posted by gut

Thing is, if you're going to have kids on campus then you might as well play football.  Because playing or not playing isn't going to substantially impact their risk in the greater student community.

Players are supposed to be tested regularly.  So if one tests positive, you can get them treatment/monitoring sooner and you quarantine to protect their teammates.  They're are actually less safe/protected without the regular testing provided by football.

Trevor Lawrence made a similar point

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29629669/power-5-talking-no-fall-football

Kiss it goodbye, boys. 

posted by friendfromlowry

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29629669/power-5-talking-no-fall-football

Kiss it goodbye, boys. 

Maybe I'm just in denial, but I still think the power 5 conferences play.

posted by SportsAndLady

Maybe I'm just in denial, but I still think the power 5 conferences play.

Well, about half the power 5 schools are the only programs that [allegedly] make a profit.

I think when you get practices up and running, and protocols fully implemented, that you have to at least see how it all works before canceling.  In a typical game, I think there's only about 10 minutes of live contact each on offense and defense.  If players wore full face shields, I think the risk of spread on the field during games would be very minimal (which wouldn't force players to wear masks that might restrict their breathing).  Frequent testing can limit the spread during practice.

Been talking to people about what a giant clusterfuck it is if a season is canceled.  Most of us agreed we'd probably just take a "gap year", especially if classes are virtual.  Has to be crushing for seniors that there might be no campus life in their final year.  10X for athletes who didn't realize last season was the last time they'd play competitively.

posted by Ironman92

Trevor Lawrence made a similar point

While I think the risk to college players is absolutely negligible, if I was Trevor Lawrence why bother?  He could sit out the year and still probably be a top-3 pick, if not #1. 

I respect he's a competitor.  But he would have been in the draft last year if not for the age requirement.   You have a tailor-made excuse to take that rare injury, or rare fall-off in performance, off the table. 

I'm not sure how NFL teams may have viewed that, but you could have just said one or both of your parents are at risk and you didn't want to potentially spread it to them.

I guess the message from colleges is "let's not even try".  That's the spirit!

Trying to understand what the presidents are doing here, and only one thing makes sense to me:

They’re trying to negotiate more money from the tv networks and advertisers

Think about it, if they were going to cancel the season, theyd do it already. They’re threatening to cancel the season rn, so that the networks will up their ante back to the universities/conferences. 

Look how much viewership is up in baseball, and NBA should be crazy high too (though I haven’t seen the Nba numbers yet). 

The universities know they’ll take a beating by not being able to sell tickets, so they’re gonna negotiate more money from other avenues. And by threatening to shut it all down, it gives them leverage. 

This is gonna be a fucking disaster.