posted by SportsAndLady

Big ten set to announce no OOC games this season. So bye bye OSU/Oregon. Sucks

I'm just hoping for football, especially NFL.

That's a strange determination, though.  Unless they are going to further restrict travel, such as no OSU-MIN, it's not like all the teams are just a long bus ride away from each other.  Or maybe it's to keep things fair & equal since some teams might see OOC games canceled.

It would also be interesting to see a 12-game schedule all in conference.  No cream puff tune-up games against Akron.  Sucks not to see OSU/Oregon, but if everyone follows suit we're going to have no idea how the playoff stacks up with no out-of-conference match-ups to clue us in.

posted by SportsAndLady

Big ten set to announce no OOC games this season. So bye bye OSU/Oregon. Sucks

Other conferences have to follow suit now right? Comparing resumes was already hard. If some conferences still play OOC games and others do not, how is that work? 

The cynic in me sees this as getting into the pool via the zero-depth-entry (i.e. small increments), with "getting into the pool" ultimately being no CFB.  I hope I'm wrong, but there's bad mojo in the air.

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

The cynic in me sees this as getting into the pool via the zero-depth-entry (i.e. small increments), with "getting into the pool" ultimately being no CFB.  I hope I'm wrong, but there's bad mojo in the air.

Yep. Things just slowly fall apart. 

posted by like_that

posted by Laley23

I don’t think anyone wants audio cut out for 10+ seconds at a time, over and over. Have you ever been courtside at an NBA game? Its a war zone of words you can’t say on TV

No, but I would love to listen to the unedited broadcast. 

No doubt, but doubt it will ever happen.

Not because of the cussing, but because of the "insenstive" comments coming from players.   

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Other conferences have to follow suit now right? Comparing resumes was already hard. If some conferences still play OOC games and others do not, how is that work? 

If so, it'll be fun watching Notre Dame's "we don't need a conference" attitude leave them out of the loop!

posted by Heretic

If so, it'll be fun watching Notre Dame's "we don't need a conference" attitude leave them out of the loop!

Lol

ND can blow off

posted by Heretic

If so, it'll be fun watching Notre Dame's "we don't need a conference" attitude leave them out of the loop!

Irrelevant in my opinion. There won't be a season. But if there is, ACC will make sure ND has a full slate of games. 

posted by Heretic

If so, it'll be fun watching Notre Dame's "we don't need a conference" attitude leave them out of the loop!

That's interesting, because UM/ND is an easier trip than most B1G games.

But then if, say, UM won the conference and lost to ND then the B1G could potentially be shut out of the playoffs.

If it goes this way in other conferences, I wonder if they'll consider expanding the playoff to 8 teams?

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Irrelevant in my opinion. There won't be a season.

Clemson had, I think, 37 players test positive and no hospitalizations.

Maybe consider a redshirt exemption for players who are at risk (diabetic, asthma, etc.) to sit out, and let everyone else play.  I think their risk from Covid could be less than the injury risk they take every time they step on the field.

If they are going to cancel college football, then I'm not sure how the NFL plays.

posted by gut

Clemson had, I think, 37 players test positive and no hospitalizations.

Maybe consider a redshirt exemption for players who are at risk (diabetic, asthma, etc.) to sit out, and let everyone else play.  I think their risk from Covid could be less than the injury risk they take every time they step on the field.

If they are going to cancel college football, then I'm not sure how the NFL plays.

That all sounds nice and dandy, but if a player dies of covid*, the NCAA will be super fucked. 

*I realize the odds are that a player will not die, but if theres even a small chance, they won’t take that risk. They won’t just say “well the odds of you dying from an injury are way more than dying from covid, so game on!”

I don’t see any league finishing a season. The NFL  came out today and said no uniform trading after games. So you can hit each other for an hour but def can’t hang out for 1 minute afterwards. Someone is going to die and it’s all over. Fuck 2020

Damn it Justin, edit button! Fuck 2020... and China

posted by iclfan2

Damn it Justin, edit button! Fuck 2020... and China

Imma extort you jerks to get an edit button. 

posted by SportsAndLady

That all sounds nice and dandy, but if a player dies of covid*, the NCAA will be super fucked. 

*I realize the odds are that a player will not die, but if theres even a small chance, they won’t take that risk. They won’t just say “well the odds of you dying from an injury are way more than dying from covid, so game on!”

Even if a player is hospitalized that is an awful look for the NCAA. The NCAA already has an image problem and most people hate them anyway. The fact that College Football also does not have a central leader to steer each conference is a big problem. The conferences are just not talking to each other. The Big Ten apparently caught everyone off guard with the announcement. The SEC was not exactly happy if you follow folks like Bruce Feldman and the Athletic. Conferences now may have to follow suit with the Big Ten and go to a conference or regional based schedule. I have no idea how that will work if teams play different number of games and teams. The MAC also wasn't happy as they are losing millions in OOC games. 

I could see several schools cutting more sports due to the this as well. 

I also think if cases continue to rise into the early August and the death toll remains largely the same, there is no way we have a college season. I'm both mad and just sad that it has come to this. 

Part of me thinks the last image we have of Ohio State and really Justin Fields for some time is that mistaken route and INT against Clemson. 

posted by justincredible

Imma extort you jerks to get an edit button. 

It's a good time to own a gun, right S&L?

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Even if a player is hospitalized that is an awful look for the NCAA. The NCAA already has an image problem and most people hate them anyway. The fact that College Football also does not have a central leader to steer each conference is a big problem. The conferences are just not talking to each other. The Big Ten apparently caught everyone off guard with the announcement. The SEC was not exactly happy if you follow folks like Bruce Feldman and the Athletic. Conferences now may have to follow suit with the Big Ten and go to a conference or regional based schedule. I have no idea how that will work if teams play different number of games and teams. The MAC also wasn't happy as they are losing millions in OOC games. 

I could see several schools cutting more sports due to the this as well. 

I also think if cases continue to rise into the early August and the death toll remains largely the same, there is no way we have a college season. I'm both mad and just sad that it has come to this. 

Part of me thinks the last image we have of Ohio State and really Justin Fields for some time is that mistaken route and INT against Clemson. 

It's already happening.  Stanford cut wrestling and several other sports even though they have a $28B endowment. 

posted by Heretic

If so, it'll be fun watching Notre Dame's "we don't need a conference" attitude leave them out of the loop!

Now would be the time for the ACC to bend them over a barrel. 

posted by like_that
It's already happening.  Stanford cut wrestling and several other sports even though they have a $28B endowment. 

Yeah, I read on the Athletic that was on the docket already pre-COVID as their revenues were really down the last few years. Just looking at the crowd at Stanford football games, you can see that.

I think a lot of departments were banking on that college football money to survive or stave off cuts. Especially in the group of 5 schools, I could see that bascially wiping out some programs. 

posted by like_that

Now would be the time for the ACC to bend them over a barrel. 

From Bruce Feldman on twitter, any ACC schedule would include ND, which is hilarious as it makes no geographic sense. 

SOURCE: ACC coaches have been told of a conference-only games plan (as @Brett_McMurphy reported). I'm told the coaches have not yet been told it’s definite. ACC’s tentative conference-only football plan as they've discussed would extend to include #NotreDame.

— Bruce Feldman (@) July 9, 2020

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Even if a player is hospitalized that is an awful look for the NCAA. The NCAA already has an image problem and most people hate them anyway. T

Yeah, you guys are right about the image and potential lawsuits.

And this doesn't change that, but I'd argue football actually makes these guys safer because of frequent testing and quasi-isolation.  If students come back to campus, I'd argue the football players have a greater risk from the student body at large than they do on the field because of precautions taken there.

I'd go with frequent testing and have players sign a waiver.  Allow them to opt-out of the season while maintaining their scholarship and eligibility if they choose.  See what happens.  I think 95% of the players will choose to play.  And I think they should have that choice - a few hundred players auditioning for million dollar NFL jobs.

Sure it's a bad look if someone gets hospitalized.  But the reality is I don't think football is going to make a difference one way or the other in terms of spread.  If 150 people can get covid at one bar in a weekend, then most of the student body is going to get it at some point.  So you probably should have canceled campus in that scenario.  And in that scenario, you could have football safely in what would effectively be a bubble.

I do think they could have a season safely.  I think there's growing reluctance because everyone knows you won't get close to 100% compliance with the protocols put in place to keep everyone safe.

MLB basically said hell no to the NBA-style bubble because they refuse to quarantine from friends and family (and chasing tail).  That's pretty much America in general and why this continues to spiral out of control.

Every day I'm feeling less and less optimistic about college football.  Regardless of personal opinions of COVID stuff, the prevailing storylines all seem to be headed in the direction of the sport paining itself into a corner.  If outbreaks of unspecified sizes happen and cause programs to entirely shut down for some period now, how will that change in 6-8 weeks?  I do not see any merit in the "conference games only" plan insomuch that it does little to mitigate the real risks of bringing the virus into a particular locker room.  

I don't know, I just have a bad feeling I guess.  And if there are no fans in attendance, I'm not sure watching games would be all that much fun anyway.