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like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Wed, Apr 8, 2020 9:22 AM
posted by thavoice

NCAA should plant certain rumors with certain folks and see which ones make the rounds in the media to smoke out who is the rat....

Do you think businesses and orgs haven't thought of this or done it before?

ernest_t_bass

12th Son of the Lama

Wed, Apr 8, 2020 11:28 AM
posted by like_that

Do you think businesses and orgs haven't thought of this or done it before?

Do you remember to whom you are speaking? 

thavoice

Senior Member

Wed, Apr 8, 2020 11:41 AM
posted by like_that

Do you think businesses and orgs haven't thought of this or done it before?

Obviously they have.

Now would be a good time with all the uncertainty and shit going on.    What would have not been believable 6 months ago, like cancelling seasons, closing bars/restaurants, shutting down schools, stay-at-home orders, etc you could easily plant some crazy shit that could get put out.  

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Wed, Apr 8, 2020 12:06 PM
posted by thavoice

Obviously they have.

Now would be a good time with all the uncertainty and shit going on.    What would have not been believable 6 months ago, like cancelling seasons, closing bars/restaurants, shutting down schools, stay-at-home orders, etc you could easily plant some crazy shit that could get put out.  

Maybe the 2021 spring sports leak was exactly this...

thavoice

Senior Member

Wed, Apr 8, 2020 1:47 PM
posted by like_that

Maybe the 2021 spring sports leak was exactly this...

Possibly.

Before this shit happened if one would float an idea like what is happening now it would be so unbelievable the person likely knows they are being set up.

 

I dont know, as much as I love football I just dont know how much I would love it in the spring.    

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Wed, Apr 8, 2020 1:50 PM
posted by thavoice

I dont know, as much as I love football I just dont know how much I would love it in the spring.    

How would it work anyway? Can't play in the spring and then the fall too can you?

gut

Senior Member

Wed, Apr 8, 2020 1:59 PM
posted by iclfan2

How would it work anyway? Can't play in the spring and then the fall too can you?

And then what about the draft?  I guess you can push that back a 1-1.5 months, but otherwise it throws the whole NFL calendar off.  Not to mention, pro days and all that stuff leading up to the draft.  Otherwise you're going to draft a guy in the top-10 with college games left to play and could possibly suffer a major injury.

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Wed, Apr 8, 2020 2:02 PM
posted by iclfan2

How would it work anyway? Can't play in the spring and then the fall too can you?

Yeah, I can't see the players' union being on board with a "after the Super Bowl, you get a month off and then start the next season!" plan.

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Wed, Apr 8, 2020 2:04 PM
posted by Heretic

Yeah, I can't see the players' union being on board with a "after the Super Bowl, you get a month off and then start the next season!" plan.

Sorry I think it was related to the NCAA post by S&L. But the question still stands. If football would be in spring, how could they possibly play again in September. I think the NFL will figure theirs out.

gut

Senior Member

Wed, Apr 8, 2020 2:08 PM
posted by iclfan2

Sorry I think it was related to the NCAA post by S&L. But the question still stands. If football would be in spring, how could they possibly play again in September. I think the NFL will figure theirs out.

In the case of the NFL, they COULD move the following season back a month.  And a shorter preseason so close to the end of the prior year.  It seems like more and more teams are already playing the stars much more sparingly in preseason (actually extends to practices, too).  But the other side of that is preseason is a time to develop younger players and teach FA's your system.

Heretic

Son of the Sun

Wed, Apr 8, 2020 2:30 PM
posted by iclfan2

Sorry I think it was related to the NCAA post by S&L. But the question still stands. If football would be in spring, how could they possibly play again in September. I think the NFL will figure theirs out.

Oh, my bad. But even taking out the union and moving it to college, it'd still be a horrible mess logistically, even if you delete those wasted weeks of nothing between conference championship week and the first bowls. You'd have more time between the spring and fall season, but still have the questions of player health (there's going to be a TON of injury redshirt seasons because of guys getting hurt in the spring season and not ready to come back by fall AND a lot of guys questioning whether it's worth it because they're not truly hurt, but are still a bit banged up to want to risk worsening things and potentially losing a future payday for "only for the scholly" labor), the issue of how the draft is going to be done because that first season will be ending around when the NFL would be either in or getting ready to start getting into gear, recruiting would be a hilarious clusterfuck due to all the "new experience" chaos of trying to do two seasons in one calendar year and the annual coaching carousel would be an utter disaster for some programs with the really short turnaround between seasons. And that's just the shit I can think of off the top of my head.

Laley23

GOAT

Wed, Apr 8, 2020 4:19 PM

I can’t see a scenario where CFB is played in the spring.

thavoice

Senior Member

Thu, Apr 9, 2020 9:05 AM

The OHSAA just came out with the spring baseball timeline where the season would start like 7 May.........they know something we dont????

 

 

But as I stated before, I look for the NFL to scale back the preseason and use this as a test run for 2021 in having only 3 preseason games.   

Ironman92

Administrator

Thu, Apr 9, 2020 11:34 AM
posted by thavoice

The OHSAA just came out with the spring baseball timeline where the season would start like 7 May.........they know something we dont????

 

 

But as I stated before, I look for the NFL to scale back the preseason and use this as a test run for 2021 in having only 3 preseason games.   

They just have the timeline plan for best case scenario.....we keep hearing these worst case timelines. I appreciated this one.

It did mention 3x that If school does not resume on May 4th, and that’s a long shot....that school gets moved back again/canceled.....that the season will be canceled. My kid has been lifting like crazy and doing runs and sprints up and down the street. I’d love for him to get the chance to compete...but fortunately only his soph year. But he’s not missed a single workout since this began.

thavoice

Senior Member

Thu, Apr 9, 2020 11:39 AM
posted by Ironman92

They just have the timeline plan for best case scenario.....we keep hearing these worst case timelines. I appreciated this one.

It did mention 3x that If school does not resume on May 4th, and that’s a long shot....that school gets moved back again/canceled.....that the season will be canceled. My kid has been lifting like crazy and doing runs and sprints up and down the street. I’d love for him to get the chance to compete...but fortunately only his soph year. But he’s not missed a single workout since this began.

Concur.  In a time where the govt is giving us worst case scenario it is good to see some organization give some hope.  It all hinges on what they do with the schools.

 

Really sucks for my Godson to miss his Senior baseball season.  To not even get a last season, man that would be tough.

 

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Fri, Apr 10, 2020 4:00 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Seeing a lot of rumors of the nba season getting cancelled. Have a friend who works in an nba front office and he basically said the seasons done. 
What about football? There’s almost no way it’s “business as usual” right? Logistically, it almost can’t happen. An nfl media guy brought up a good point the other day—team doctors and medical professionals can’t just start working for the teams during a massive pandemic right? They’ll almost assuredly be tied up in hospitals fighting the virus. How can you start training camp with no medical professionals with the teams? 

 

I think we see a shortened season. Something like 2 preseason games and a 14 game season. To make sure the super bowl date doesn’t get pushed back.
what say you?  

 

 

 

Not seeing that, at all.

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Sun, Apr 12, 2020 5:22 PM

There was a Sports Illustrated article today basically saying sorry but without a vaccine sports shouldn’t be back at all. 
 

Lalely you’d be most the knowledgeable on this but suppose sports was gone for a full calendar year. How do ESPN, Sports Illustrated, FOX Sports just to name a few of many....how do they survive something like that? 

Laley23

GOAT

Sun, Apr 12, 2020 10:35 PM
posted by friendfromlowry

There was a Sports Illustrated article today basically saying sorry but without a vaccine sports shouldn’t be back at all. 
 

Lalely you’d be most the knowledgeable on this but suppose sports was gone for a full calendar year. How do ESPN, Sports Illustrated, FOX Sports just to name a few of many....how do they survive something like that? 

EPSN has Disney, and enough other programming to survive. But man, those networks would be taking a huge hit. The difference with other businesses is that you know the money is there in droves when sports return. So, most of the networks will do everything in their power to support the sports branch of the company. 
The ones who are more in danger are companies like mine, VIZ, Chyron, Avid Edit. Stuff like that. The people who make the shit we use. Or a company like NEP, or GameCreek. The ones supplying the equipment and actual TV trucks to put the games on. It will be real interesting how long they can go without a source of income.

friendfromlowry

Senior Member

Mon, Apr 13, 2020 12:29 PM

I did hear a good point on the golf this morning I hadn’t considered. Maybe they could have done the Masters without a crowd but what a blow to the local economy that’d really be. So they’d rather hold out and hope they can get it done in November without missing too much of a beat.

thavoice

Senior Member

Tue, Apr 14, 2020 10:32 AM
posted by friendfromlowry

There was a Sports Illustrated article today basically saying sorry but without a vaccine sports shouldn’t be back at all. 
 

Lalely you’d be most the knowledgeable on this but suppose sports was gone for a full calendar year. How do ESPN, Sports Illustrated, FOX Sports just to name a few of many....how do they survive something like that? 

Big boys likely could survive, but what about the regional like the FSO/STO as you stated, and  big ten networks, SEC, etc.....

gut

Senior Member

Tue, Apr 14, 2020 4:01 PM

I actually watched like 3 episodes of ESPN's H-O-R-S-E tourney.  Only reason to watch it was just to see the NBA guy's back yards and courts.

I think woman's WWE in Florida has been declared essential.  I probably won't watch.

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Wed, Apr 15, 2020 10:34 AM

 

Where’s the Lingerie Football League when you need it?

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Sat, Apr 18, 2020 5:38 PM

Heard a few minutes ago on the Sirius NFL channel that the schedules will be released in early May and it's likely that they will frontload (most likely) or backload the division games together. So for AFC North fans, as an example, we could see; Week 1 Browns at Bengals, Ravens at Steelers, Week 2 Steelers at Browns, Bengals at Ravens, etc until they get all of the inter-division games in just in case the season gets shortened.

slingshot4ever

Senior Member

Mon, Apr 20, 2020 3:19 PM

6 straight weeks of divisional games would be very intense...

gut

Senior Member

Mon, Apr 20, 2020 7:37 PM
posted by slingshot4ever

6 straight weeks of divisional games would be very intense...

I don't think it will be that extreme.  Need to figure out a minimum schedule to have a playoff, which IMO that would be your 6 divisional games plus the 4 rotating conference divisional opponent.

I'm not sure if games are canceled at the end of the season you'd still have a playoff.  I think you plan for the season to potentially start a month late, and if it ended-up being 2 months cancel the first 4 and push everything else back a month.  That would be a 12 game season.  Start with the 4 non-conference games as those are the most expendable to the schedule.

Of course, I'm sure the schedule will mainly reflect maximizing ratings in a potentially shortened season.