posted by BR1986FBWouldn't be opposed to them sending Sexton to the developmental league.
What?
No lol he's fine. He's had two bad games in a row. Prior to that he was fine.
You guys are overreacting x1000 to a 19 year old rookie in his first 15 games in the NBA on a complete shitshow of a team.
Sexton better get an attitude adjustment or he isn’t long for this team though. When veterans are calling you out saying you don’t know how to play, it’s not good.
The disconnect from the vets and the young guys in this squad isn’t good at all, but Sexton seems to bear the brunt of what’s wrong on the young player side.
posted by Laley23Sexton better get an attitude adjustment or he isn’t long for this team though. When veterans are calling you out saying you don’t know how to play, it’s not good.
The disconnect from the vets and the young guys in this squad isn’t good at all, but Sexton seems to bear the brunt of what’s wrong on the young player side.
Fuck the veterans lol ship them off for a bag of peanuts. That's waht they're worth to this franchise right now.
Let the young guys develop without having to hear it from the has-beens who were only brought on to be the 8th man for LBJ.
posted by Laley23Sexton better get an attitude adjustment or he isn’t long for this team though. When veterans are calling you out saying you don’t know how to play, it’s not good.
The disconnect from the vets and the young guys in this squad isn’t good at all, but Sexton seems to bear the brunt of what’s wrong on the young player side.
He's already developing bad habits that could stick, long term. And Larry Drew isn't exactly a developmental type of coach. He was brought in as a supplement to Ty Lue for a veteran laden championship contender type team. That's why I suggested sending him down to the developmental league to iron some things out....not because I think he sucks and is unfixable (which you didn't imply).
posted by SportsAndLadyFuck the veterans lol ship them off for a bag of peanuts. That's waht they're worth to this franchise right now.
Let the young guys develop without having to hear it from the has-beens who were only brought on to be the 8th man for LBJ.
Lol I agree. But some of the stuff they are saying need to be corrected and not ignored by a rookie. IE: learning to defend a pick and roll; what is a good and bad shot coming down the stretch in a close game; caring about losses (I don’t care much about this one, personally).
posted by Laley23Lol I agree. But some of the stuff they are saying need to be corrected and not ignored by a rookie. IE: learning to defend a pick and roll; what is a good and bad shot coming down the stretch in a close game; caring about losses (I don’t care much about this one, personally).
They have the wrong set of vets if they are concerned about him caring about losses. These vets went thru the motions every regular season with Lebron.
posted by like_thatThey have the wrong set of vets if they are concerned about him caring about losses. These vets went thru the motions every regular season with Lebron.
If they cared about losses, 'Wrong Way JR" might have an inkling about where he's at on the court during a NBA Finals game.
posted by SportsAndLadyFuck the veterans lol ship them off for a bag of peanuts. That's waht they're worth to this franchise right now.
Let the young guys develop without having to hear it from the has-beens who were only brought on to be the 8th man for LBJ.
This.
posted by friendfromlowryThis.
I also agree with that.
Fun game right now against OKC. Those OKC jerseys are fucking awesome.
JR and TT combined for 10/30 shooting and -14 and -18 +\- but tell us how Sexton is the problem. Can’t wait for these losers to be gone, especially JR.
TT I’m cool with. JR can get bent tho.
posted by BR1986FB15 win team, maybe...
I'm adjusting this to 8 games.
12-70
I adjusted mine down because right now they are putrid. When they get to the trade deadline and start moving guys, they will be worse. Not that what they have on the roster currently is anything special.
The future looks bright with RJ Barrett though.
posted by supermanThe future looks bright with RJ Barrett though.
he reminds me of James Harden (looks as good now) without the antics we all loathe
RJ Barrett is gonna be nice in CLE
Predict 10 - 72 record.
Who is projected to be the first pick in the draft?
What a shitshow
posted by wkfanPredict 10 - 72 record.
Who is projected to be the first pick in the draft?
What a shitshow
Last two posts
posted by wkfanPredict 10 - 72 record.
Who is projected to be the first pick in the draft?
What a shitshow
Don't forget NBA has draft reform starting this season (of course). We will have just as much of a chance at the #1 pick as the team with the 10th worst record.
Hell I would be happy as hell with Zion Williamson too. Both are ridiculous
https://basketball.realgm.com/analysis/251587/Cedi-Osmans-Big-Chance-Playing-Into-The-Void
The Cleveland Cavaliers’ swift collapse has been the opposite of inexplicable. Once LeBron James bolted for Los Angeles, the overwhelming consensus was the Cavs were moderately to severely screwed going forward. As it turns out, the most dire of those predictions were also the most accurate. Kevin Love isn’t a franchise-carrying superstar anymore. Ty Lue isn’t a transformative coach. The vets are either washed up (George Hill), checked out (Tristan Thompson), or both (J.R. Smith). Collin Sexton is extremely raw. Sam Dekker is starting games. The team is 1-and-9, and with Love out injured for at least the next few weeks, that record doesn’t figure to improve.
This is what happens when a dull, grouchy, broadly incompetent squad held together solely by the genius of the greatest player of his generation loses its crucial bonding agent. Reality is at once painful and otherworldly, and nothing makes sense anymore. The Cavs are Jeffrey Beaumont getting pummeled to Roy Orbison; they’re coughing up a late-game lead in Orlando. There’s blame to go around, but that’s not really the important thing. Without LeBron, the project was always going to break bad. If you’re not living in Northeast Ohio, and even if you are, you have permission to stop caring about the Cavs until next year’s draft, or at least until some Woj-sourced Kevin Love trade rumors start cropping up.
But before we plastic wrap Cleveland and shove them into the back of the freezer for the rest of the season, there’s one player on their roster who deserves some recognition, and depending on how things go for him this year, perhaps some sympathy. Cedi Osman barely played in the Cavs final LeBron Era playoff run, which was strange given that he had, over the course of the regular season, grown into a serviceable bench contributor and a minor cult figure among Cleveland fans. He certainly would have held up better under the mental strain of big games than Rodney Hood did, and he wouldn’t have been as actively self-destructive as Jordan Clarkson. There wasn’t much the Cavs could have done to prevent the Warriors from sweeping them in the Finals, but it was a niggling source of annoyance that Ty Lue didn’t seem to understand that Osman was one of the more skilled players on a skill-deficient squad.
For better and for worse, the Turkish forward is getting his chances now, playing 33 minutes per game and at times operating as something like Cleveland’s offense focal point. Something like because the Cavs don’t seem to have much of a plan on offense these days. They intend, like basically every other team in the league, to push the pace and move the ball, but a lot of their players are old and, after playing in a spread pick-and-roll system with LeBron, struggling to change their approach. The result is a lot of meek drive-and-kicks, a lot of ineffectual swinging of the ball around the perimeter. They settle for a troubling number of pull-up 19-footers. It’s a severely broke-assed version of what the Warriors do. It is, as of this writing, the 20th-best offense in the league by offensive rating. Having watched half their games, I can tell you the numbers flatter the Cavs.
The same isn’t true for Cedi, who is shooting 37.4 percent on 12.3 shots per game. His assist-to-turnover ratio is less than one. Things aren’t going well for him, in large part because he’s often playing point forward, a role he fills for the Turkish national team that he absolutely cannot pull off at the NBA level. This isn’t to denigrate his talents but rather to define them more narrowly. He’s 6-foot-8 and moves fluidly. He shoots pretty well from behind the arc. He works hard defensively. He can handle the ball a little bit, find a diving big for a lob or a fading screener for a three. He’s 23, only in his second year in the league. The sky’s not exactly the limit for him, but he’s on his way to becoming a drunk impressionist’s rendering of Gordon Hayward—in other words, a useful player.
But only in the right context. He’s struggling at the moment, and probably will continue to for the foreseeable future, because he’s being asked to do too much on a terrible team. We often speak of young players developing as if it were an inevitable phenomenon. The calendar ticks along, experience accrues, and everything sharpens. That’s obviously not the case. To get better at something, you have to have a target in mind. You want to feel more comfortable finishing at the rim with your weaker hand; you want to make sounder decisions defending the pick and roll. You can only focus on so many aspects of your game at a given time. Trying to do everything at once doesn’t serve you. That’s what Osman is doing currently. The Cavs are operating with a LeBron-sized donut hole punched through the middle of them, and more than perhaps any other player in the squad, Cedi is straining to fill that empty space. He’s aspiring well beyond his limitations, and predictably, it’s not working out. It’s difficult to say that he’s learning anything either. Mostly, he’s just missing shots and giving the ball away.
Which is a shame, because Cedi’s a likeable dude. He spent last season adorably following LeBron around like a duckling and was always the first body up off the bench to chest bump or high five his hero when a teammate hit a big shot. And he handled himself well when he got the chance to play. He would do well in, say, Oklahoma City as a three-and-D guy, or in Milwaukee, zipping around in Mike Budenholzer’s uptempo scheme. Instead he’s in Cleveland, where he’s desperately needed but also entirely insufficient, demonstrating each night what it looks like when you lean on a role player too hard. The most painful thing about the worst teams in the league is somebody has to play for them. You wish they could field 15 Dwight Howards, so you wouldn’t have to feel sorry for anybody. Maybe Cedi Osman will turn a corner; maybe he’ll sink into the mud. At any rate, it will be a minor thing unfolding at the margins of an NBA discourse justifiably ready to leave the Cavs behind. Of course, Osman can’t do that. He has to make the best of a dismal situation, even as the situation itself threatens to eat him alive.
Good god, these jerseys. Shitty enough team and they're making them wear THOSE?
posted by Commander of AwesomeDon't forget NBA has draft reform starting this season (of course). We will have just as much of a chance at the #1 pick as the team with the 10th worst record.
This might be the worst rule change in history.