posted by SportsAndLady

Right! You’re telling me a team can play pretty poorly (which is generally when you see more flags), and not commit a single penalty in almost a full game? 

And I don’t mind calls against the Browns. That’s gonna happen especially with Hue in charge. What I can’t stand is the bad call doesn’t come on 1st and 10 with 6 min left in the first quarter on a 3 yard Hyde run. It comes in OT or at the end of the 4th quarter on a game changing play. It’s almsot clockwork this season, and even non-browns fans are saying it. I went to OU with a bunch of friends from Pittsburgh—they’re incredibly anti-Cleveland but even they were texting me how the browns repeatedly are getting boned by the refs and the nfl this season. 

 

Just makes you wonder

Cry me a river, bitch (not you S&L)...

https://sports.yahoo.com/joe-flacco-key-penalty-ravens-103129787.html

posted by BR1986FB

Cry me a river, bitch (not you S&L)...

https://sports.yahoo.com/joe-flacco-key-penalty-ravens-103129787.html

HAha I saw that and just had to lol. 12:1 penalties browns/ravens and you’re complaining about a call? LOL

Sounds like MCL Sprain for Higgins. Re-evaluated in two weeks.

Also, Devante Parker is being shopped by Dolphins. LOL I recall his fucking mom saying they wanted him to go anywhere but Cleveland.

posted by Commander of Awesome

Sounds like MCL Sprain for Higgins. Re-evaluated in two weeks.

Also, Devante Parker is being shopped by Dolphins. LOL I recall his fucking mom saying they wanted him to go anywhere but Cleveland.

One of the things about very good QB play is that you make regular guys look a lot better (Willies). Baker's play doesn't have me missing bitch boy Gordon one bit.

This season reminds me of 2002 so far. Close games and crazy endings.

posted by BR1986FB

Nice read...

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/10/08/nfl-week-5-cleveland-browns-fmia-peter-king/

Peter King is great. Love reading his column every week.

Probably a bit high but nice to see some love (Benjamin Allbright week 5 power rankings)...

https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/1049804837792055296

posted by BR1986FB

Probably a bit high but nice to see some love (Benjamin Allbright week 5 power rankings)...

https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/1049804837792055296

His thing is just a computer model of who beat who. It's not an opinion.

Hypothetical....the Browns (somehow) are 5-2-1 going into the bye, with a distinct shot at a playoff berth, do you pull the trigger on a OBJ trade?

posted by BR1986FB

Hypothetical....the Browns (somehow) are 5-2-1 going into the bye, with a distinct shot at a playoff berth, do you pull the trigger on a OBJ trade?

Do. Not. Want.

posted by BR1986FB

Hypothetical....the Browns (somehow) are 5-2-1 going into the bye, with a distinct shot at a playoff berth, do you pull the trigger on a OBJ trade?

What will it cost?

posted by SportsAndLady

What will it cost?

 

It will really depend on what happens between now and week 8-9. If the Giants continue their downward spiral and he keeps being a malcontent, they may not need to give up a 1st.

The only issue, to me, is the contract. You have Landry on a large deal and OBJ's is a 5 year deal. The Browns will have Baker, Garrett & Ward coming up for extensions toward the end of OBJ's deal.

They do need another WR option though. I know they've considered Duke as a slot guy. Please get the guy (Duke) the ball so he stops whining about it.

posted by BR1986FB

It will really depend on what happens between now and week 8-9. If the Giants continue their downward spiral and he keeps being a malcontent, they may not need to give up a 1st.

The only issue, to me, is the contract. You have Landry on a large deal and OBJ's is a 5 year deal. The Browns will have Baker, Garrett & Ward coming up for extensions toward the end of OBJ's deal.

They do need another WR option though. I know they've considered Duke as a slot guy. Please get the guy (Duke) the ball so he stops whining about it.

Can’t really answer your question if I don’t know what it would take. Obviously if we’re 5-2-1 and it won’t cost a first rounder then yeah lol

but if right now you’d say first and a third for OBJ. I’d say yes still. Lol

posted by BR1986FB

It will really depend on what happens between now and week 8-9. If the Giants continue their downward spiral and he keeps being a malcontent, they may not need to give up a 1st.

The only issue, to me, is the contract. You have Landry on a large deal and OBJ's is a 5 year deal. The Browns will have Baker, Garrett & Ward coming up for extensions toward the end of OBJ's deal.

They do need another WR option though. I know they've considered Duke as a slot guy. Please get the guy (Duke) the ball so he stops whining about it.

Absolutely I’d trade for him. OBJ’s contract is set up nicely actually. I believe the cap hit in 2020 is only 8 mill soniy really won’t affect signings of other players in a few years 

Hypothetical, would you trade for Jerry Rice and Lawrence Taylor in their prime? trolololol

Sorry, couldn't resist. Getting OBJ without having to give up a 1st is a no brainer.

Ugh. Willies to the IR and Browns sign Perriman. Gross. You gotta slide Duke our wide tomorrow, they don’t use him correctly anyway.

Why the hell didn’t we just sign Dez?

our WRs went from incredible to complete shit in a month. 

posted by SportsAndLady

Why the hell didn’t we just sign Dez?

our WRs went from incredible to complete shit in a month. 

Dez wouldn't hurt, but I'd also question why Duke and Devalve aren't getting more snaps. Their our offensive weapons, and they're getting little to no snaps. It makes no sense.

How dumb Hue/ Haley are:

Devalve 1 snap

Chubb 7 snaps

Duke lined up at wr 5 times, even though our receiving core is decimated

On top of this, Hue today said that even though our receiving core was down to 3 healthy wr, he thought going with 3 receiver sets all day was the best way to attack the chargers. 

posted by iclfan2

How dumb Hue/ Haley are:

Devalve 1 snap

Chubb 7 snaps

Duke lined up at wr 5 times, even though our receiving core is decimated

On top of this, Hue today said that even though our receiving core was down to 3 healthy wr, he thought going with 3 receiver sets all day was the best way to attack the chargers. 

VERY dumb.

Way to go.  Losing to Los Angeles-adjacent of San Diego.

I wonder if they're trying to save Chubb for next year. Their "plan" went South when Tyrod got hurt. I think they brought in him & Hyde to buy time for these younger guys (Baker, Chubb, etc) to learn and then go full bore next year. The plan just accelerated a little faster than expected.

posted by BR1986FB

I wonder if they're trying to save Chubb for next year. Their "plan" went South when Tyrod got hurt. I think they brought in him & Hyde to buy time for these younger guys (Baker, Chubb, etc) to learn and then go full bore next year. The plan just accelerated a little faster than expected.

I don't think they're trying to 'save' anyone--this is the NFL, and whoever gives them the best chance to win plays...IMO, El Guapo is playing pretty damn good, and that's just what we see on Sundays and not what he does in practice during the week--maybe Chubb just isn't ready?!?

posted by vball10set

I don't think they're trying to 'save' anyone--this is the NFL, and whoever gives them the best chance to win plays...IMO, El Guapo is playing pretty damn good, and that's just what we see on Sundays and not what he does in practice during the week--maybe Chubb just isn't ready?!?

Looked pretty ready on those two runs totaling 100+ yards against Oakland. Also had another real nice one yesterday that got called back on a penalty.

Hyde is solid but the explosion that Chubb brings is night & day. Hyde is a slap hitter and Chubb is hitting home runs. The success of Sony Michel & Barkley, as rookies, should at least buy Chubb a few more touches. Especially after that Oakland game.

posted by vball10set

I don't think they're trying to 'save' anyone--this is the NFL, and whoever gives them the best chance to win plays...IMO, El Guapo is playing pretty damn good, and that's just what we see on Sundays and not what he does in practice during the week--maybe Chubb just isn't ready?!?

Agreed, don't think we're saving anyone. Esp considering that Hue is gone without playoffs this yr. I don't think Hyde is bad this yr, but he's not as dynamic as Duke or Chubb and play calling isn't doing him any favors.