Browns BS Drama continued Part II...

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like_that

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Mon, Dec 31, 2018 10:10 AM
posted by iclfan2

There was a press conference with Dorsey this morning. Not much said other than he said that Jimmy and Dee are letting him take the lead on the coaching search. He wouldn't talk to anyone about who he was looking at, but reports say they have reached out to Patriots DC (Flores I think)

He also said Kitchens and Williams will have an interview. I am starting to be sold on Kitchens being HC.  

BR1986FB

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Mon, Dec 31, 2018 10:11 AM
posted by iclfan2

There was a press conference with Dorsey this morning. Not much said other than he said that Jimmy and Dee are letting him take the lead on the coaching search. He wouldn't talk to anyone about who he was looking at, but reports say they have reached out to Patriots DC (Flores I think)

Have already heard it's unlikely it's Gregg Williams. Also heard they've reached out to McCarthy (barf).

like_that

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Mon, Dec 31, 2018 10:16 AM

Nobody is going to know wtf the Browns do with this coaching search.  Prepare to see so many BS reports.  Most people couldn't even guess what was going to happen in the Draft and they had the #1 overall pick.

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Mon, Dec 31, 2018 10:31 AM
posted by like_that

Nobody is going to know wtf the Browns do with this coaching search.  Prepare to see so many BS reports.  Most people couldn't even guess what was going to happen in the Draft and they had the #1 overall pick.

No doubt but I'll be pretty surprised if it's a name that comes out of nowhere, like when Pettine got hired.

SportsAndLady

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Mon, Dec 31, 2018 10:31 AM

Something tells me if they get rid of kitchens, it’ll be another “bilichek and saban used to be on the browns coaching staff” thing. 

Everyone keeps saying they want a “young, innovative, offensive minded head coach” well, we have one on the team already. I would do everything humanly possible to keep him on as OC and if he won’t accept anything less than HC, I’d give it to him. 

Ironman92

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Mon, Dec 31, 2018 10:56 AM
posted by vball10set

sorry I missed this, but just curious--are you a Browns fan?

Nope, Steelers....I was just grasping one last smidge of hope in my mind and knew if the insane miracle tie happened, well I just thought a Browns fan would be most worthy of the cash prize.

 

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Mon, Dec 31, 2018 11:02 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

Something tells me if they get rid of kitchens, it’ll be another “bilichek and saban used to be on the browns coaching staff” thing. 

Everyone keeps saying they want a “young, innovative, offensive minded head coach” well, we have one on the team already. I would do everything humanly possible to keep him on as OC and if he won’t accept anything less than HC, I’d give it to him. 

I tend to agree with most of this. Kitchens has built a strong bond with BM, who is the most important player on this team. Kitchens came up with some pretty innovative stuff in only 8 games. Imagine a full season and offseason?

My fear is that they bring in someone like McCarthy and he and Baker butt heads. Plus, with McCarthy comes a 3-4 defense so there's likely another personnel overhaul.

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Mon, Dec 31, 2018 11:06 AM
posted by BR1986FB

I tend to agree with most of this. Kitchens has built a strong bond with BM, who is the most important player on this team. Kitchens came up with some pretty innovative stuff in only 8 games. Imagine a full season and offseason?

My fear is that they bring in someone like McCarthy and he and Baker butt heads. Plus, with McCarthy comes a 3-4 defense so there's likely another personnel overhaul.

No Thanks

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Mon, Dec 31, 2018 11:08 AM

Home Opponents next year - Bills, Miami, Rams, Seahawks, Titans

Away Opponents next year - Patriots, Jets, Cardinals, Broncos, 49ers

Looking WAY ahead to next year, that isn't a terrible schedule. Patriots/ Rams/ Seahawks being the hardest teams.

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Mon, Dec 31, 2018 11:09 AM

I don't think there is any chance McCarthy gets the job. I trust Dorsey enough that I have to think he realizes that wouldn't work. 

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Mon, Dec 31, 2018 11:09 AM

Could see Gase, too. A lot of people said he works well with QB's. We'll see

SportsAndLady

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Mon, Dec 31, 2018 11:12 AM
posted by iclfan2

Home Opponents next year - Bills, Miami, Rams, Seahawks, Titans

Away Opponents next year - Patriots, Jets, Cardinals, Broncos, 49ers

Looking WAY ahead to next year, that isn't a terrible schedule. Patriots/ Rams/ Seahawks being the hardest teams.

Broncos on the road again? Ugh

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Mon, Dec 31, 2018 11:13 AM
posted by iclfan2

No Thanks

Exactly. That's been a big problem during Haslam's tenure. Back and forth with coaches that have different systems and bad personnel fits. This was prior to Haslam, I think, but remember Jason Fisk trying to play NT in the 3-4? This defense is pretty bad but the players know it and I think they are only a few players away from being middle of the pack...and with this offense, middle of the pack is all you'll need to be a 10+ win team.

like_that

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Mon, Dec 31, 2018 11:19 AM
posted by iclfan2

Home Opponents next year - Bills, Miami, Rams, Seahawks, Titans

Away Opponents next year - Patriots, Jets, Cardinals, Broncos, 49ers

Looking WAY ahead to next year, that isn't a terrible schedule. Patriots/ Rams/ Seahawks being the hardest teams.

You never know with the NFL.  Browns were supposed to have a lighter strength of schedule this year and it ended up being one of the toughest schedules in the league.

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Mon, Dec 31, 2018 11:23 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

Could see Gase, too. A lot of people said he works well with QB's. We'll see

If Gase gets it, you'll know Haslam has his fingers in the pie again. Jimmy had major wood for Gase when he took the Miami job.

like_that

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Mon, Dec 31, 2018 11:23 AM

Myles finished the year with 13.5 sacks, but I feel like he left quite a few sacks on the field.  I hope this off season he focuses on finishing his sacks, because i think is he capable of being a 20 sack guy.

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Mon, Dec 31, 2018 11:29 AM
posted by BR1986FB

If Gase gets it, you'll know Haslam has his fingers in the pie again. Jimmy had major wood for Gase when he took the Miami job.

I don't think Landry likes Gase either.

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Mon, Dec 31, 2018 11:31 AM
posted by like_that

Myles finished the year with 13.5 sacks, but I feel like he left quite a few sacks on the field.  I hope this off season he focuses on finishing his sacks, because i think is he capable of being a 20 sack guy.

There's a heated debate on the OBR about this. OP accusing him of dogging it to protect from injury.

I wasn't pleased with his production down the stretch but, in all fairness, Ogbah is garbage. In hindsight, they should've kept Nassib over him. I want to see what Garrett does when he has another good DE and an interior guy to collapse the pocket. I think his numbers rise.

Also, not trying to sound like a whiner, but Myles probably gets held 7-10x's a game with no calls.

Laley23

GOAT

Mon, Dec 31, 2018 11:40 AM

Browns should have 3 maybe 4 prime time games next year. 

Pats away, Steelers at home (SNF), Rams/Seahawks/Ravens all possibilities as well.

Ironman92

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Mon, Dec 31, 2018 11:40 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

Broncos on the road again? Ugh

Quick glance looks like 9-7 or 10-6

 

BR1986FB

Senior Member

Mon, Dec 31, 2018 11:45 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

I don't think there is any chance McCarthy gets the job. I trust Dorsey enough that I have to think he realizes that wouldn't work. 

Hope that's not the case because if it is, the DC could be Dom Capers or our old buddy Mike Pettine.

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Mon, Dec 31, 2018 12:31 PM

Other names the browns have requested an interview for:

colts DC Matt Eberflus and OC Nick Sirianni

saints assistant coach/TEA coach Dan  Campbell 

vikings interim OC Kevin Stefanski 

 

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Mon, Dec 31, 2018 12:47 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Other names the browns have requested an interview for:

colts DC Matt Eberflus and OC Nick Sirianni

saints assistant coach/TEA coach Dan  Campbell 

vikings interim OC Kevin Stefanski 

 

They seem to be interviewing everyone

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Mon, Dec 31, 2018 12:52 PM
posted by iclfan2

They seem to be interviewing everyone

Guess it doesn’t hurt. At the very least, get some ideas/intel out of it. 

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Mon, Dec 31, 2018 12:59 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Guess it doesn’t hurt. At the very least, get some ideas/intel out of it. 

Yea, I'm all for it. Gotta get this right.