I called the Pats signing. That was an easy one.
What a fucking asshole Gordon is, even I wished him wel on here and rooted for him to make it back.
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12m12 minutes agoWatching Kendricks make a play & came to realization: It's amazing how much the Browns haven't known this year. They didn't know about Callaway's legal issues, severity of Kendricks' case, what Josh Gordon was doing & the Zane Gonzalez injury. Well-run organization right there.
sigh
posted by Ironman92I called the Pats signing.
I was thinking back about who said that. In my mind, I agreed that that would probably happen.
Wow.
We just have to move on......for the millionth time.
Heard a revised version of the Gordon tale this morning. Apparently, he didn't "sneak" into the Browns facility but was given permission, by the team, to go in there and film for his clothing line. Instead, Gordon brought in a film crew to shoot one of his Instagram "hype" videos of him working out. He supposedly pulled his hammy at the end of the 90 minute session after running a 40. Also heard something about him racing a drone?
posted by BRFWe just have to move on......for the millionth time.
It's the why that bothers me most in cases like this. Adding to the tote board for those who are consistently wrong:
Character doesn't matter: 10
Character matters: 6,248,871
What dumbass in the organization ok’d Josh to use the facility for anything? Fire that moron. Dude is not trustworthy. He was supposed to be filming something for a clothing line but then filmed a hype video instead. Good riddence.
posted by iclfan2What dumbass in the organization ok’d Josh to use the facility for anything? Fire that moron. Dude is not trustworthy. He was supposed to be filming something for a clothing line but then filmed a hype video instead. Good riddence.
Good riddance to bad garbage. He didn't want to be here and I get the feeling that Todd Haley was a big reason for his departure. Sounds like during the week leading up to the Saints game, Haley was riding Gordon's ass for his poor (in practice) work ethic, running shitty routes (shocker), etc, etc and he was fed up with it.
If this organization turns around, it's going to be Dorsey, Haley & Gregg Williams that do it. Those guys are all alpha's. Hue is a sniveling little, throw everyone under the bus to save my ass, bitch. Haslam is the key here as he needs to sack up, not worry about his "perception" (hair trigger on firings) and let Dorsey cut the head off the snake (fire Hue).
The more that comes out about Gordon the more we (as fans) are going to be like "why the hell did we support/believe in this clown?"
posted by SportsAndLadyI don’t agree
https://twitter.com/i/moments/1041792911527096328
Not favorable for TT.
posted by Commander of Awesomehttps://twitter.com/i/moments/1041792911527096328
Not favorable for TT.
Didn’t open for me for some reason.
We all knew TT wasn’t going to be a top 5 QB here or anywhere. But he’s good enough to win us games and we should have won both games if not for a damn kicker. Let’s get a W vs the jets and then go from there.
posted by SportsAndLadyDidn’t open for me for some reason.
We all knew TT wasn’t going to be a top 5 QB here or anywhere. But he’s good enough to win us games and we should have won both games if not for a damn kicker. Let’s get a W vs the jets and then go from there.
Man, I know everyone wants to blame the kicker but the stat that tells the biggest tale is EIGHT takeaways and only TEN points. That's on the offense, lead by Taylor, not the kicker. Gonzalez didn't miss a FG until OT, and that was blocked due to Bitonio getting owned, in that first game against Pittsburgh where they had 6 of those turnovers. Shouldn't have come down to the kicker,
posted by BR1986FBMan, I know everyone wants to blame the kicker but the stat that tells the biggest tale is EIGHT takeaways and only TEN points. That's on the offense, lead by Taylor, not the kicker. Gonzalez didn't miss a FG until OT, and that was blocked due to Bitonio getting owned, in that first game against Pittsburgh where they had 6 of those turnovers. Shouldn't have come down to the kicker,
Well, it did. And you should reasonably expect an nfl kicker to make a 42 yard fg and extra points. He didn’t, and we lost.
If we were 2-0 right now, no one would be talking about baker mayfield.
posted by SportsAndLadyDidn’t open for me for some reason.
We all knew TT wasn’t going to be a top 5 QB here or anywhere. But he’s good enough to win us games and we should have won both games if not for a damn kicker. Let’s get a W vs the jets and then go from there.
I disagree with this. I think he is good enough to not lose games. In the NFL that is not good enough unless you have an all time defense (we don't).
posted by SportsAndLadyWell, it did. And you should reasonably expect an nfl kicker to make a 42 yard fg and extra points. He didn’t, and we lost.
If we were 2-0 right now, no one would be talking about baker mayfield.
You gotta get more than 10 points off of 8 TO's. That's on the offense. It's like the offense is kicking the defense in the nuts. That many points is shameful. NOBODY, except the Browns offense, in the league does that shit.
posted by BR1986FBYou gotta get more than 10 points off of 8 TO's. That's on the offense. It's like the offense is kicking the defense in the nuts. That many points is shameful. NOBODY, except the Browns offense, in the league does that shit.
Most of those takeaways gave the offense good field position too.
posted by like_thatMost of those takeaways gave the offense good field position too.
Against the Saints, even if Gonzalez make the 2 XP's and the FG he missed, prior to the missed 52 yarder, that makes the score 23-18.
With the way the Browns have stolen defeat from the jaws of victory, do we really think Brees doesn't take them down the field for a TD after the way they drove down the field like a hot knife through butter on their GW FG drive?
Best case, the Browns get the ball back down 25-23 but more likely 26-23 and they're driving for a game tying FG. I can't put ALL of that on a kicker when the offense smells like ass.
And I'm certainly not hanging goat horns on ZG for a field goal that was blocked because the LG wasn't set and got lit up by 3 guys. SIX turnovers should've yielded more TD's. Not winning in that situation is historically bad.
posted by like_thatI disagree with this. I think he is good enough to not lose games. In the NFL that is not good enough unless you have an all time defense (we don't).
Yep, that's the party line on TT..."not going to lose games for you but not going to win them either."
If you look at his stat line over the last 6-8 games between Buffalo & Cleveland, it's not even really "average."
The kicker cost us both those games. You guys can spin it to fit your TT sucks agenda all you want, but the fact is ZG cost us two wins by not being able to kick field goals. Were we perfect in all other aspects of the game? Absolutely not. But did everyone (including TT) do enough to win? Absolutely. But ZG sucks and cost us the games.
I’m fine with Baker starting because he’s going to be very good and I want to see him out there. But I’m not putting this 0-1-1 start on TT, no way.
posted by SportsAndLadyThe kicker cost us both those games. You guys can spin it to fit your TT sucks agenda all you want, but the fact is ZG cost us two wins by not being able to kick field goals. Were we perfect in all other aspects of the game? Absolutely not. But did everyone (including TT) do enough to win? Absolutely. But ZG sucks and cost us the games.
I’m fine with Baker starting because he’s going to be very good and I want to see him out there. But I’m not putting this 0-1-1 start on TT, no way.
lol
posted by SportsAndLadyThe kicker cost us both those games. You guys can spin it to fit your TT sucks agenda all you want, but the fact is ZG cost us two wins by not being able to kick field goals. Were we perfect in all other aspects of the game? Absolutely not. But did everyone (including TT) do enough to win? Absolutely. But ZG sucks and cost us the games.
I’m fine with Baker starting because he’s going to be very good and I want to see him out there. But I’m not putting this 0-1-1 start on TT, no way.
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Eight friggin turnovers and ten points. That's anemic and that's not on a kicker. That's historically bad on the offense. Not ALL on TT but it is on the offense.
I don't think anyone's implying that it was ALL Tyrod's fault but his inadequacies were a big part of it. He just limits the offense.
They just faced two defenses that surrendered 40+ points, mostly through the air, and they can only muster 21 & 18? I know the Steeler game was a monsoon but there were too many missed opportunities.
posted by BR1986FBEight friggin turnovers and ten points. That's anemic and that's not on a kicker. That's historically bad on the offense. Not ALL on TT but it is on the offense.
No ones happy with that stat. it’s pathetic.
If you need to make two extra points and a 42 yard fg to win two games, and you don’t win either it’s on the kicker. But agree to disagree.
If the kicker makes the FGs last week, the Browns win. It's hard to put the blame on him for week 1 though. Regardless, TT has not been that impressive.
posted by SportsAndLadyNo ones happy with that stat. it’s pathetic.
If you need to make two extra points and a 42 yard fg to win two games, and you don’t win either it’s on the kicker. But agree to disagree.
GET. MORE. POINTS. OFFENSE. and it doesn't come down to the kicker. To put up 18 points on THAT defense is embarrassing.
Wasn't Weeden's fault either.
posted by BR1986FBGET. MORE. POINTS. OFFENSE. and it doesn't come down to the kicker. To put up 18 points on THAT defense is embarrassing.
Lol what do you want me to tell you dude? TT is not tom Brady. He’s not a top 10-15 QB. He’s going to do just enough to help you win, which he did both times lol.
Were not going to get 40+ points from TT. How are you not getting that?