Holy hell this game 

Gruden 3rd down play call was asinine. Good God. How do you not spread it out on 2nd and 3rd down?

posted by Ironman92

That set and play to the short side of the field.

This truly deserves a tie

Crazy this Raiders team beat the Chiefs snd nearly did it 2x

Raiders got hit by Covid hard. They keep having 1-2 players test postive and limited practices bc of it

posted by Ironman92

Raiders are eliminated 

They aren’t though. 

posted by wildcats20

They aren’t though. 

But they are

Fork inserted

Love that my locals are showing Jags vs Ravens and Skins vs Seahawks....the worst games being played right now

man, I hope Justin doesn't kill this thread, or the board!

Can’t believe they might screw up Lawrence. Good sign that they haven’t given up I guess.

posted by iclfan2

Can’t believe they might screw up Lawrence. Good sign that they haven’t given up I guess.

The only thing that could make it worse is taking Justin Fields.....gotta be careful I don't get myself banned  :)

The Jets are great at winning meaningless December games and screwing up their draft position. 

Aren’t Jets still #1 due to worse conference record?

Jags are #1 if they both lose out. 

Justin - how would you feel about Fields? 

posted by Ironman92

Aren’t Jets still #1 due to worse conference record?

Strength of schedule is tiebreaker for draft order.

posted by Al Bundy

Strength of schedule is tiebreaker for draft order.

Reverse SOS, to be complete accurate. Lol. 

posted by Al Bundy

Strength of schedule is tiebreaker for draft order.

Just thought it went opposite to playoff standing/tie breaks

Could Jets believe saying screw #1 since Lawerence won’t play for them?

Just for curiosity, I skipped the last three #1 choices as "too soon to tell" and rated the previous 20 on a ten point scale. My average was 5.6.

Lawrence might be in Canton someday. Lawrence might need a ticket to attend an NFL game in three years. Most likely outcome is a decent but not great football player.

posted by queencitybuckeye

Just for curiosity, I skipped the last three #1 choices as "too soon to tell" and rated the previous 20 on a ten point scale. My average was 5.6.

Lawrence might be in Canton someday. Lawrence might need a ticket to attend an NFL game in three years. Most likely outcome is a decent but not great football player.

This is an accurate thought process. However, the contrary take is there have been 3 consensus #1 since they were freshman in college. Peyton, Luck and Lawrence. All-Timer, likely would’ve been HOFer (and maybe SB Champion if didn’t retire). So the track record for THAT type of prospect is a bit different. 

Something is up and it has to be Ben. I’ve bitched about the play calling of the Steelers OC’s forever...but I’ve always been happy with Randy Fichtner his first two years and until about 5-6 games ago....now the play calls seem asinine. I know our backs aren’t good and Connor out yet again.....but it has to be Ben, who also isn’t hitting the passes either. He looked top 5 for a while and now looks like he has little business starting

Ben is 2/8 for 2 yards but those stats are better than he looks.

He looks 100% lost. Like he has zero experience and no ability to understand the defense. I don’t think he’s look worse if he was concussed. It’s baffling.

I’d bench him. I’m serious.

I’m actually unhappy Haden is back. He gets toasted way too often. IMO the 4th best CB on the team

posted by Ironman92

I’m actually unhappy Haden is back. He gets toasted way too often. IMO the 4th best CB on the team

And now you know how we felt about his overrated ass.

posted by BR1986FB

And now you know how we felt about his overrated ass.

He’s not in tune with his true abilities.....gambles like Deion but can’t recover.

When he was out the Hilton and Nelson were good

Is there on the planet that understands what is going on with Ben? He’s not dumb....lose his ability ...sure could have but smart enough to understand limitations.

I’ve not seen anything of the such. It’s baffling. He needs benched. Going for worst QB line in NFL history....against the Bengals.

How did they win 11 games? Don’t give me the easy schedule because they are getting blasted by the Bengals who are as bad as it gets.

Just wondering. I’ve never seen anyone lose it so far so fast.

If you would have told me one team was winning 17-0 while the losing teams QB had -2 passing yards.....I would have mixed up the teams.

posted by Ironman92

He’s not in tune with his true abilities.....gambles like Deion but can’t recover.

When he was out the Hilton and Nelson were good

I was done with him when he got burnt by Cecil Shorts and his blazing 4.7 speed for a game winning TD when the Browns played the Jags years ago.