Is this real?

https://mobile.twitter.com/nellie_0hr/status/1263167110642950145

posted by Ironman92

Is this real?

https://mobile.twitter.com/nellie_0hr/status/1263167110642950145

I haven’t heard of anywhere struggling besides the red/yellow areas on the map. I thought it was bad in New Orleans though?

posted by Ironman92

Is this real?

https://mobile.twitter.com/nellie_0hr/status/1263167110642950145

Seems very logical based on what the media reports.

https://www.kwch.com/content/news/CDC-releases-guidelines-to-reopen-schools-570643861.html

Fuck. Did you guys see this? Have fun in your new prison next year kids.

tl;dr: masks for everyone age 2 and above (yeah, good luck). Desks six feet apart, no sharing anything, avoid recess and cafeteria (eat in classrooms, bring your own lunch), school buses should sit kids in a single seat every other row. So, what does that do for bus routes then? A lot of the schools in my area already desperately needed more drivers. 
 

proposal to go back to school.. Jesus 

I wonder if there was any recommendation proposed that they didn’t go with it. 

posted by friendfromlowry

https://www.kwch.com/content/news/CDC-releases-guidelines-to-reopen-schools-570643861.html

Fuck. Did you guys see this? Have fun in your new prison next year kids.

tl;dr: masks for everyone age 2 and above (yeah, good luck). Desks six feet apart, no sharing anything, avoid recess and cafeteria (eat in classrooms, bring your own lunch), school buses should sit kids in a single seat every other row. So, what does that do for bus routes then? A lot of the schools in my area already desperately needed more drivers. 
 

 

I predict we’ll be saved by some kids with asthma and persistent parents 

Schools cant operate with that crap. 

posted by friendfromlowry

https://www.kwch.com/content/news/CDC-releases-guidelines-to-reopen-schools-570643861.html

Fuck. Did you guys see this? Have fun in your new prison next year kids.

But I'm sure this bodes well for fall sports...

posted by friendfromlowry

https://www.kwch.com/content/news/CDC-releases-guidelines-to-reopen-schools-570643861.html

Fuck. Did you guys see this? Have fun in your new prison next year kids.

tl;dr: masks for everyone age 2 and above (yeah, good luck). Desks six feet apart, no sharing anything, avoid recess and cafeteria (eat in classrooms, bring your own lunch), school buses should sit kids in a single seat every other row. So, what does that do for bus routes then? A lot of the schools in my area already desperately needed more drivers. 
 

 

posted by friendfromlowry

https://www.kwch.com/content/news/CDC-releases-guidelines-to-reopen-schools-570643861.html

Fuck. Did you guys see this? Have fun in your new prison next year kids.

tl;dr: masks for everyone age 2 and above (yeah, good luck). Desks six feet apart, no sharing anything, avoid recess and cafeteria (eat in classrooms, bring your own lunch), school buses should sit kids in a single seat every other row. So, what does that do for bus routes then? A lot of the schools in my area already desperately needed more drivers. 
 

 

How completely absurd.  It is the safest demographic; they have a far greater chance of dying in a bus wreck.

Stop the insanity.

If we allow the CDC, Dr. Doom and the medical community to be the sole voices in opening up America = Allowing a Dr. to decide when and how to attack a fortified position.   It would never happen, and if it did it would be so cautious that there is no way it will be successful or effective.

If we allow just businesses and the money folks be the sole voices in opening up America = Allowing Private Snuffy straight out of basic training to decide on when and how attack on a fortified position.   Likely ends in a bloodbath.

There needs to be more balance on how it is done.  Up to now Dr. Doom and her modeling from Ohio State has been the driving force and the retarded predictions and numbers that have been so far off does not give the public a very good feeling they are making sound decisions.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/20/pennsylvania-average-age-covid-19-death-80-two-thirds-nursing-home/

Unreal stats in Pennsylvania.  

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/21/us/franklin-county-ohio-race-public-health-crisis-trnd/index.html

Something from Franklin County

posted by Spock

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/20/pennsylvania-average-age-covid-19-death-80-two-thirds-nursing-home/

 

Unreal stats in Pennsylvania.  

These governors, including Cuomo, really fucked up with the directive to send sick patients back to homes. NY is also fudging their numbers by having nursing home people die, but since they died in a hospital, they don't count it as a nursing home death. But apparently people not wearing masks are the "Grandma Killers" or DeSantis who told hospitals they had to keep nursing home patients until they were recovered. Lot of people eating crow about Florida and Georgia. 

posted by QuakerOats

How completely absurd.  It is the safest demographic; they have a far greater chance of dying in a bus wreck.

But what about the teachers?  Although I'd agree that the majority of people in the workforce, anywhere, are not in the vulnerable profile - over 65 with comorbidities.

If a vaccine is on track for November, maybe these people should be granted leave until January.  I'm sure employers can work things out for valued employees who would be at risk.

posted by gut

But what about the teachers?  Although I'd agree that the majority of people in the workforce, anywhere, are not in the vulnerable profile - over 65 with comorbidities.

If a vaccine is on track for November, maybe these people should be granted leave until January.  I'm sure employers can work things out for valued employees who would be at risk.

These CDC guidelines are "guides" not rules.  Lots of school cannot or will not adhere to all the details.  

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

These CDC guidelines are "guides" not rules.  Lots of school cannot or will not adhere to all the details.  

Yes, but it becomes politically risky for a governor not to adopt the CDC guidelines.  That's the problem, as mentioned, not balancing the extreme risk-averse approach of the doctors.  The doctors don't consider the economic and social impact of their recommendations.

Schools are going to have rampant absences and teachers will fevers will have to be out 14 days......not enough subs.  

Could you imagine having full classrooms of HS kids without a teacher in the city schools?

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

These CDC guidelines are "guides" not rules.  Lots of school cannot or will not adhere to all the details.  

See?  I don't mind this as much.  If it basically comes down to the CDC saying, "This is what you should do, and we encourage you to do as much of it as you can," that's not problematic, I don't think.

posted by O-Trap

See?  I don't mind this as much.  If it basically comes down to the CDC saying, "This is what you should do, and we encourage you to do as much of it as you can," that's not problematic, I don't think.

Can we even produce enough masks to distribute to K-12 kids every day?

And how stupid is it to expect a 3rd grader to wear a mask properly all day, and not touch their face all day?  Might as well just make it a guideline that people don't catch the virus....

posted by QuakerOats

 

 

 

It is the safest demographic; they have a far greater chance of dying in a bus wreck.

 

 

They're carriers of everything known to man. Their R0 numbers are off the charts.They'll be fine. Grandma, dad, etc. not so much.

Idiot.

How about we start publicizing the models detailing our economic collapse if we continue with shutdowns? That destruction will make the covid death models looks like a walk in the park (and I don’t mean to diminish in any way the losses suffered by covid deaths)/

posted by gut

Can we even produce enough masks to distribute to K-12 kids every day?

And how stupid is it to expect a 3rd grader to wear a mask properly all day, and not touch their face all day?  Might as well just make it a guideline that people don't catch the virus....

Depending on how much money is in it, I'm sure there would be businesses happy to fill the void.

As for the second question, I doubt anyone actually expects that to go smoothly.  When I hear "guidelines," I hear "in a perfect world."  Just trying to get as close to the ideal as possible is, I think, the best you can do.  There certainly shouldn't be any penalties for not hitting it.

posted by O-Trap

Depending on how much money is in it, I'm sure there would be businesses happy to fill the void.

I think most of that manufacturing capacity is in China.  It would be hard to tool-up for that in a few months, and it's unlikely that someone making car parts is going to change over to making masks, if it were even feasible.  Plus, simply "if you pay enough" you have to consider that process starts with someone making the tooling.  And with a shortage of that you have to go back even another tier to the people who make the tooling to make the tooling (yes, that's a real thing).  All that takes time, even if you're writing a blank check.

A year or two from now under reasonable economics, sure.  But we're 3 months into this and we still barely have enough masks for healthcare workers.