posted by kizer permanenteI can't wait for it lol. Muslim coaches bringing out a prayer rug to midfield and old ladies gasping for air as they faint.
So, then you would be ok with it?
posted by like_that
You’re telling me instead of relying on my ability to get a full ride in football, all I had to do was join the team prayer? Smfh.
No I'm telling you if you didn't go to optional workouts that werent really optional you weren't going to play lol.. or did you not play football?
posted by like_thatSo, then you would be ok with it?
I'm ok with either as long as you're fired for actually coercing players or punishing them by not going.
I personally wouldn't put myself in the position to be accused of it to begin with b/c I'm not stupid though?
posted by kizer permanenteNo I'm telling you if you didn't go to optional workouts that werent really optional you weren't going to play lol.. or did you not play football?
Yeah, no shit. Did you play football? Team prayers are very common on most teams (not just in football). I’m on board with you if he actually coerced them into doing it, but something tells me that every HS athletic team isn’t being coerced to pray for playing time. Like I said, this is up there with qo and cc faux outrage.
posted by like_thatYeah, no shit. Did you play football? Team prayers are very common on most teams (not just in football). I’m on board with you if he actually coerced them into doing it, but something tells me that every HS athletic team isn’t being coerced to pray for playing time. Like I said, this is up there with qo and cc faux outrage.
I went to parochial schools so of course we did. Public school is a different animal though. My former coach lost his job at a public school for it. And not saying this guy would.. but also not saying a guy who makes it a point to go to mid field to pray so everyone can see him pray wouldn't.
And if we are doing whataboutism, there is no doubt that you and gblock would be celebrating if this case were about taking a knee during the anthem. Try to be consistent for me, just once.
posted by like_thatAnd if we are doing whataboutism, there is no doubt that you and gblock would be celebrating if this case were about taking a knee during the anthem. Try to be consistent for me, just once.
I don't see how that case could ever make it to Supreme Court? This did by separation of church and state.
posted by kizer permanenteI went to parochial schools so of course we did. Public school is a different animal though. My former coach lost his job at a public school for it. And not saying this guy would.. but also not saying a guy who makes it a point to go to mid field to pray so everyone can see him pray wouldn't.
If we are going by anecdotes, I went to public school and coached at public schools. Not to mention competed/coaches against both public and private (I am sure you did as well). Never once did I see anyone get forced into prayer. You’re making this case seem like it will lead to some grand pray to play scheme.
If you want to argue that the coach is a douche for doing it so publicly, go for it. That’s your opinion. As for the case, it should have been 9-0, regardless of who he was praying for.
posted by like_thatIf we are going by anecdotes, I went to public school and coached at public schools. Not to mention competed/coaches against both public and private (I am sure you did as well). Never once did I see anyone get forced into prayer. You’re making this case seem like it will lead to some grand pray to play scheme.
If you want to argue that the coach is a douche for doing it so publicly, go for it. That’s your opinion. As for the case, it should have been 9-0, regardless of who he was praying for.
I can see your point and agree with you I guess
posted by kizer permanenteI can see your point and agree with you I guess
I will also agree that if there was clear evidence he coerced them then it should have been 9-0 against him. That would have been a violation of those kids’ 1st amendment rights to not pray.
This same coach was also performing third trimester abortions at midfield immediately following games. Players were encouraged, but not required to assist.
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieThis same coach was also performing third trimester abortions at midfield immediately following games. Players were encouraged, but not required to assist.
While blasting his AR-15 into the sky.
posted by like_thatWhile blasting his AR-15 into the sky.
No, using the AR to perform the abortions. Each one preceded by "set...HUT"
Very shocking to the fans in the stands and the other team.
posted by like_thatCute headline by CNN. This is up here with the faux cc and Quaker outrage. If he isn’t forcing players to pray with him, what is the issue?
This happens at public schools all the time for most sports and it’s normally voluntary, if not there would be serious issues.
The fact it even made it to the SCOTUS is a joke regardless if he was praising Jesus or Muhammad.
Previous to this in my 20 years of coaching we had to leave the room if the team wanted to pray and you could be fired for leading a prayer
Edit. Would be fired
posted by like_thatAnd if we are doing whataboutism, there is no doubt that you and gblock would be celebrating if this case were about taking a knee during the anthem. Try to be consistent for me, just once.
No I don’t think the coach should be involved in leading a prayer or encouragement to kneel, but should support players if they want to do either
All the glory to God for giving my the ability to throw for 375 yards, 4 TDs and only 1 interception, leading us to victory today. Sorry to take his focus off of terminally ill children, but this game was obviously important to him.
posted by like_thatGuess they shouldn’t have argued against a 15 week ban. I agree with the thought 12 weeks would pass, but the crazy ones will still complain.Edit: I could be wrong, but I think the votes are there to codify abortions up to the first trimester. Dems have failed to do this in the last 50 years. I think some Rs would vote in favor of it too.
posted by like_thatYeah, no shit. Did you play football? Team prayers are very common on most teams (not just in football). I’m on board with you if he actually coerced them into doing it, but something tells me that every HS athletic team isn’t being coerced to pray for playing time. Like I said, this is up there with qo and cc faux outrage.
Its pretty clear Kizer was one of those guys that did not go the optional workouts and sat bewildered at the end of the bench during the season.
posted by kizer permanenteI don't see how that case could ever make it to Supreme Court? This did by separation of church and state.
Like who sees the coach of a football team at a local school district as a representative of the state.
posted by majorsparkLike who sees the coach of a football team at a local school district as a representative of the state.
It’s a public school. When I was coaching it was made clear you could not pray
posted by majorsparkIts pretty clear Kizer was one of those guys that did not go the optional workouts and sat bewildered at the end of the bench during the season.
Family full of coaches in baseball basketball and football. I never wasn’t somewhere, Mr Google .
posted by majorsparkLike who sees the coach of a football team at a local school district as a representative of the state.
The tax payers, I’m guessing
posted by geeblockIt’s a public school. When I was coaching it was made clear you could not pray
Too bad they were wrong.
Thankfully this guy stood up and took it all way.
posted by geeblockIt’s a public school. When I was coaching it was made clear you could not pray
Local school districts are a reflection of their local community. The coaches and teachers are not directly appointed by the state. The states and feds weasel in with money. That is your state involvement.
If we are going with personal accounts when I played in high school we recited the Lord's prayer before hitting the court. Then at halftime if we were playing shitty he yelled, screamed, chewed our asses out, and if we were playing extra shitty one of those metal trash cans got kicked across the locker room.