When BLM (and the squad) and Palestinians supporters are beating Jews in public, it’s pretty easy to see which side to be on.
posted by ptown_trojans_1Simply not true.Nope. Israel is just as guilty of not finding a solution as the Palestinians.
posted by ptown_trojans_1No. Hamas is not leading the government. Not in the West Bank.
Hamas also does not have any jurisdiction over Israeli Arabs, that do not have full rights in Israel.
Quit giving talking points like it is 2006. The dynamics have shifted.
Hamas has the most seats in the Palestinian Legislative branch.
Fatah, the second highest number of seats and control of the executive, was considered a terrorist organization forever as well but has since lost that designation by most/all governments.
And you can keep saying Hamas isn’t in the West Bank but that doesn’t make it true.
For one any google link will prove you wrong but Wikipedia is the quickest/easiest.
Second, last I checked, the most recent attack came from Gaza, so you keep saying “well Hamas isn’t in the West Bank” is just trying to gaslight the situation and deflect.
You once again equate Israeli Arabs not having full rights with rockets from Gaza.
You can’t make this stuff up...
Israel is not great, but morally they are on higher ground than Hamas, Fatah, the PLO, et al and that isn’t even really debatable.
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieIt's a matter of perspective. Perhaps if you were a Palestinian, you'd see these entities as your only line of defense. You don't have a huge advanced military provided by the US.
Ok, so the Germans in WW2 were “right” then because the Nazis were their only line of defense?
See how stupid that statement was? It equals yours.
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieI don't defend or equate the two. I'm sick of us funding one side of a multi-centuries conflict and paying for our support heavily in many other ways besides money. Neither side wants the other there, so they will always continue to fight. I want no part of it and am tired of our country putting itself in the middle of it. As such, I'm not going to be "outraged" Everytime the Israelis get attacked anymore than I'm going to support the destruction brought on by the Israelis with their US supplied weapons.
I am all for pulling all support for all countries out there myself I am all for smaller government, smaller federal budgets, even smaller military (large enough to defend the USA, but not the rest of the world).
But you aren’t reading your own posts if you don’t believe you are equating Hamas/PLO with Israel morally.
posted by ptown_trojans_1Sounding very get off my lawn right there....
Believing that changing the English language to coddle and enable 0.03% of the population, many of whom probably have a mental illness, is not only stupid but potentially really stupid?
Hardly "get off my lawn" type stuff. Get out of DC and re-discover what normal, rational logic looks like.
Or how about a more libertarian interpretation: Pretending to address an issue by changing or banning words isn't only pointless, it's likely to end-up worse than doing absolutely nothing.
posted by jmogLikely the reason Abbas "postponed" elections. Blamed it on Israel knowing Fatah was at high risk of losing to Hamas. Also a likely reash Hamas started this shit with Israel. To show they have more power than Fatah. Abbas is a very corrupt individual who unlike the average Palestinian has used the situation to enrich himself.
And you can keep saying Hamas isn’t in the West Bank but that doesn’t make it true.
posted by majorspark
Likely the reason Abbas "postponed" elections. Blamed it on Israel knowing Fatah was at high risk of losing to Hamas. Also a likely reash Hamas started this shit with Israel. To show they have more power than Fatah. Abbas is a very corrupt individual who unlike the average Palestinian has used the situation to enrich himself.
Factual information mixed with most likely scenarios.
Here comes ptown to tell you that you are wrong with nothing to back it up.
Ptown seems like a total troll that can’t possibly believe what he writes
posted by jmogOk, so the Germans in WW2 were “right” then because the Nazis were their only line of defense?
See how stupid that statement was? It equals yours.
I'm not saying anyone is right. I'm saying from their own perspective, that's how they may see it.
posted by jmogI am all for pulling all support for all countries out there myself I am all for smaller government, smaller federal budgets, even smaller military (large enough to defend the USA, but not the rest of the world).
But you aren’t reading your own posts if you don’t believe you are equating Hamas/PLO with Israel morally.
I know what I said. I'm not equating anyone and I don't care to be involved with any of them. If you want to look at it as good vs evil, have at it. I hold the opinion that none of it will ever be sorted out, and I don't like my taxes supporting a war that goes on into perpetuity and in which we have no business.
posted by jmogOk, so the Germans in WW2 were “right” then because the Nazis were their only line of defense?
See how stupid that statement was? It equals yours.
I didn't say they were right, I said that if you were Palestinian , you may see it that way.
posted by Dr Winston O'BoogieI didn't say they were right, I said that if you were Palestinian , you may see it that way.
Searched long and hard....Couldn't find a PLO version of "My Way or the Highway".
Sinatra is pissed.
https://gizmodo.com/in-nod-to-dystopian-fiction-citizen-wants-to-send-priv-1846943077
Every once in a while, the leftwing writers on Gizmodo make a few good points. Doesn't mean there aren't plenty of LULZ, especially in the comments.
This is a direct and expected result of riots and defund the police. They are all very alarmed, as if they somehow have no concept of private security for hire. It's an interesting thing how they all immediately jump to "this will be used to target poor minority neighborhoods". Sure, because when I'm down in the barrio buying my drugs I'm calling my security team when my dealer can't make exact change.
An angle everyone seems to miss - which is easy when you are laser focused on class and culture warfare - is this could be a real trial/pilot program security without limited immunity, held accountable the same way any other person is. Only problem, which should be obvious to most, is you make public safety a luxury item only the wealthy can afford.
posted by gutSearched long and hard....Couldn't find a PLO version of "My Way or the Highway".
Sinatra is pissed.
I don't get it.
posted by iclfan2When BLM (and the squad) and Palestinians supporters are beating Jews in public, it’s pretty easy to see which side to be on.
A couple of years back Trump and the white nationalist were fomenting anti-semitism. In my lifetime I have seen media bias but Trump got them to just shit the bed.
FYI, please stop the violence against the Jews because...
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/24/opinion/israel-palestine-zionism.html
posted by like_thatFYI, please stop the violence against the Jews because...
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/24/opinion/israel-palestine-zionism.html
I would guess that most all of these violent encounters are perpetrated by members of the Religion of Peace. Those types are so far gone they are incapable of differentiating between an Israeli politician and a Jewish-American eating dinner with his family. However, lack of basic intelligence by the Religion of Peacers doesn't justify our country dumping billions of dollars into a centuries-old conflict that does nothing for us except keeping us at the center of a bunch of fighting religious zealots.
Ironic speaking about a police reform bill outside of a lawless, terrible part of the city (way to go BLM), and being interrupted by gunfire.
Here we go again with WaPo breaking a huge story based on "two anonymous sources" that a grand jury has been convened to charge Trump.
This is like Christmas for the tanking CNN ratings that they'll get to speculate and make wild claims, incontestable and unverifiable, for at least the next 6 months. Really feels like ground hog day, again.
It won't surprise me if the Trump and his organization aren't charged, legitimately, for a variety of financial/tax crimes. Real estate conglomerates engage in a lot of shady stuff. But it will be curious to see just how politically motivated other aspects are.
posted by gutHere we go again with WaPo breaking a huge story based on "two anonymous sources" that a grand jury has been convened to charge Trump.
This is like Christmas for the tanking CNN ratings that they'll get to speculate and make wild claims, incontestable and unverifiable, for at least the next 6 months. Really feels like ground hog day, again.
It won't surprise me if the Trump and his organization aren't charged, legitimately, for a variety of financial/tax crimes. Real estate conglomerates engage in a lot of shady stuff. But it will be curious to see just how politically motivated other aspects are.
Ask QO and Spock. As far as I can tell, there the ones on here that regularly comb the Post and CNN. I'd guess the rest pay no attention.
How embarrassing to fly the flag of this Marxist organization at US embassies.
embarrassing to virtue signal for a terrorist group
posted by gutHere we go again with WaPo breaking a huge story based on "two anonymous sources" that a grand jury has been convened to charge Trump.
This is like Christmas for the tanking CNN ratings that they'll get to speculate and make wild claims, incontestable and unverifiable, for at least the next 6 months. Really feels like ground hog day, again.
It won't surprise me if the Trump and his organization aren't charged, legitimately, for a variety of financial/tax crimes. Real estate conglomerates engage in a lot of shady stuff. But it will be curious to see just how politically motivated other aspects are.
There will be no let up in the witch hunts until the left is assured he is not running for president; the personal hatred is off the charts. At least The People now know of the depths of the left-wing corruption in the DC sewer and the deep state media.
posted by QuakerOatsThere will be no let up in the witch hunts until the left is assured he is not running for president; the personal hatred is off the charts.
Ehhh, don't forget Jared Kushner's dad had like a 10 year sentence. So it does happen. And what's being talked about as far as fraud related to valuing/statement of assets, is relatively common practice AND illegal. Just complicated and lots of gray areas that usually don't have much interest in pursuing.
So it's possible this is both completely justifiable while also being political. And Trump brought it on himself by not releasing his tax returns.
Moral of the story is, if you have a history of shady business dealings (as many do in international real estate), then probably not a great idea to run for POTUS.