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CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Sun, Oct 28, 2018 9:41 AM

Let's start our own movement! Raciphobia can be a thing really quickly. All it would take is a few Tumblr posts and a tweet or two.

gut

Senior Member

Sun, Oct 28, 2018 12:52 PM
posted by jmog

I am sorry, but just because someone is easily offended by something that is NOT racist...

A lot of people consider putting on black face to be racist, and it's frankly hard to argue otherwise.  Even if your intent is not to be racist, it doesn't make it any less offensive.

It's common courtesy.  You don't have to do it, and you know it's going to offend people and you do it anyway.  That's a complete jerk move.

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Sun, Oct 28, 2018 6:42 PM
posted by jmog

So if someone is really good at makeup and can make a kids face look just like Black Panther in the whole suit, since the suit is mostly black, this would be racist?

 

you have to see how dumb that is. 

 

Now, walking around in black face just to make fun of black people would obviously be racist, but doing it to dress like a superhero on Halloween is not racist, no matter how you do it (mask or makeup), and anyone that suggests otherwise is quite frankly a moron. 

You still don't get it. 

If you paint the black panther mask on a face, that's not blackface. That is a painting of the mask on the face. It's a painting of the panther, not black face, so its fine.

Again, it's not hard folks. Common sense. Don't paint a black face of a person on a white face. Simple.

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Sun, Oct 28, 2018 6:53 PM

Hey guise, ptown and fab want you to know they aren't racist.  Hope this helps.  

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Sun, Oct 28, 2018 7:10 PM
posted by like_that

Hey guise, ptown and fab want you to know they aren't racist.  Hope this helps.  

It does, thanks man. 

jmog

Senior Member

Sun, Oct 28, 2018 10:18 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

You still don't get it. 

If you paint the black panther mask on a face, that's not blackface. That is a painting of the mask on the face. It's a painting of the panther, not black face, so its fine.

Again, it's not hard folks. Common sense. Don't paint a black face of a person on a white face. Simple.

This is actually what I am arguing but so many people want to say that painting on a black panther mask is the same as the historical black face and therefore racist. 

 

Those people are plain stupid. 

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Mon, Oct 29, 2018 10:12 AM

Pittsburgh mayor Bill Peduto was just on tv preaching how his idea and "sensible" people know that guns aren't needed. Not verbatim but that was the jist of it. It's exactly that kind of attitude that pushes people away. That the only sensible people are people that don't need or want guns. 

If people wanted zealoutry Jerry Falwell would have been president many years ago. The regressives in this country do not or cannot understand this. Voters are now actively and figuratively backhanding democrats in the mouth at voting booths and they still persist in talking down to people. What a joke.

queencitybuckeye

Senior Member

Mon, Oct 29, 2018 10:19 AM
posted by CenterBHSFan

Pittsburgh mayor Bill Peduto was just on tv preaching how his idea and "sensible" people know that guns aren't needed. Not verbatim but that was the jist of it. It's exactly that kind of attitude that pushes people away. That the only sensible people are people that don't need or want guns. 

If people wanted zealoutry Jerry Falwell would have been president many years ago. The regressives in this country do not or cannot understand this. Voters are now actively and figuratively backhanding democrats in the mouth at voting booths and they still persist in talking down to people. What a joke.

I'm OK with a nation without guns. But I get to go last.

jmog

Senior Member

Mon, Oct 29, 2018 1:43 PM
posted by queencitybuckeye

I'm OK with a nation without guns. But I get to go last.

I only go last after the government gives up their's as well.

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Mon, Oct 29, 2018 2:47 PM
posted by queencitybuckeye

I'm OK with a nation without guns. But I get to go last.

I'm okay with a nation without guns because each individual doesn't want a gun.

But if it's the rule, and someone else breaks the rule, I'd rather not be held to a law that puts me at a disadvantage in defending my own home.

queencitybuckeye

Senior Member

Mon, Oct 29, 2018 3:11 PM
posted by O-Trap

I'm okay with a nation without guns because each individual doesn't want a gun.

But if it's the rule, and someone else breaks the rule, I'd rather not be held to a law that puts me at a disadvantage in defending my own home.

Actually I'm not OK without guns (as much because I enjoy them as anything more practical), I was just showing one fallacy of many in the logic of the grabbers. One they are unlikely or unwilling to understand.

 

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Mon, Oct 29, 2018 4:06 PM

Secular Talk‏Verified account @KyleKulinski 21h21 hours ago

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The rise of the far-right is tied to outlets like Fox News mainstreaming ludicrous ideas and hammering them home relentlessly. The counter to that is mealy-mouthed neutrality humping CNN and corporate dem defense squad MSNBC. Rigged game. Left needs a much bigger megaphone.

I thought this was a pretty interesting thing to say, considering that democratic media flatly outnumbers conservative media (newspapers, internet, radio, tv). Regardless of which part of the political spectrum you are on, how can you not know this? If you go by ratings, you'd have a point. But this person isn't going by ratings, he's going on the premise that apparently the left's messaging isn't being heard by enough people.

Maybe, just maybe, the messaging is why they're losing the audience? Not sure, I don't know, just a wild guess?

Spock

Senior Member

Mon, Oct 29, 2018 9:25 PM

Every talking head on CNN gets to say the most radical stuff and get away with it

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Tue, Oct 30, 2018 11:48 AM
posted by Spock

Every talking head on CNN gets to say the most radical stuff and get away with it

Yeah, but so does the President, so ...

QuakerOats

Senior Member

Tue, Oct 30, 2018 11:53 AM
posted by O-Trap

Yeah, but so does the President, so ...

 

Yep, crazy stuff like “if you have no borders, you have no country” etc…

justincredible

Honorable Admin

Tue, Oct 30, 2018 12:05 PM
posted by QuakerOats

 

Yep, crazy stuff like “if you have no borders, you have no country” etc…

Yes, that's certainly the worst thing Trump has ever said.

queencitybuckeye

Senior Member

Tue, Oct 30, 2018 12:15 PM
posted by justincredible

Yes, that's certainly the worst thing Trump has ever said.

Certainly worse than "I'm going to take a pen and mark out portions of the Constitution I don't like".

 

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Tue, Oct 30, 2018 12:36 PM
posted by queencitybuckeye

Certainly worse than "I'm going to take a pen and mark out portions of the Constitution I don't like".

Or that they were going to get Mexico to pay for a wall.

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Tue, Oct 30, 2018 12:38 PM

Well, people call out CNN all the time, including liberals and "lefties". These same people will call out Trump, including never Trumpers. Both sides call out each other so I don't think anybody is exactly getting away with it. And in some ways, each media and a president have equal powers of persuasion. So I think this is really a wash.