posted by O-Trap

That depends.

If his job were to root out bullshit, like an ethical media outlet's would be, sure.  I like that.

But as the person who is supposed to be above that kind of petty vendetta, I expect better of the office.

 

I'm not sure he's actually trolling.  He sometimes has a very dry sarcasm that gets mistaken for it.  He's just sort of doing what the Dems have been doing for years, which is shaming their opponent for daring to disagree with them.  "You don't want to do anything about the border?  You want open borders?  Here, then take all these people trying to come in".

Tactically, it's a brilliant political move.  Maybe - I'm assuming no one is actually going to stand up and say "Yes!  Send them to my district!"

In classic Trump fashion, it's also idiotic - because he can't actually do this.

posted by gut

I'm not sure he's actually trolling.  He sometimes has a very dry sarcasm that gets mistaken for it.  He's just sort of doing what the Dems have been doing for years, which is shaming their opponent for daring to disagree with them.  "You don't want to do anything about the border?  You want open borders?  Here, then take all these people trying to come in".

Tactically, it's a brilliant political move.  Maybe - I'm assuming no one is actually going to stand up and say "Yes!  Send them to my district!"

In classic Trump fashion, it's also idiotic - because he can't actually do this.

I suppose that's my point.  It's not the idea itself that I had a problem with, which is why I mentioned that I'd like it in a different context (as an argument strategy, at least).

But he can't actually do it, and it would be irresponsible to actually do it even if he could.

US SHALE GAS SWAMPS MARKET
Natural gas futures tumbled to the lowest in almost three years. http://media.bishopi.com/ec.aspx?l=24316655&e=216417

We are the Saudi Arabia of nat gas.  Tremendous benefit for every American, particularly the poor and seniors on fixed incomes.   

Here is the link

26,680

Good fortune

Not sure where to put this, but this coming fight over the citizenship question on the census is a lot bigger than anyone is mentioning...

Census ultimately determines representation in Congress, and therefore electoral votes.  If illegals don't complete the census because of said fears over being deported due to the citizenship question, then this could be a pretty significant hit to Representatives and electoral votes in traditionally blue states.

Now, illegal or not, we still have to provide services and infrastructure for them.  But should that factor into the allocation of federal dollars?  If a city/state is going to be a sanctuary for illegals, shouldn't that resource burden be born purely by that state (and not you living in Ohio)?  I'm not sure the liberal media has fully grasped all the consequences of this yet....

posted by gut

Not sure where to put this, but this coming fight over the citizenship question on the census is a lot bigger than anyone is mentioning...

Census ultimately determines representation in Congress, and therefore electoral votes.  If illegals don't complete the census because of said fears over being deported due to the citizenship question, then this could be a pretty significant hit to Representatives and electoral votes in traditionally blue states.

 

Now, illegal or not, we still have to provide services and infrastructure for them.  But should that factor into the allocation of federal dollars?  If a city/state is going to be a sanctuary for illegals, shouldn't that resource burden be born purely by that state (and not you living in Ohio)?  I'm not sure the liberal media has fully grasped all the consequences of this yet....

If you listen to the arguments of the attorneys fighting against the citizenship question - they grasp it. Personally I think Democrats are overplaying their hand on this (standard operating procedure these days) and it hurts the still-red but growing sun-belt states like AZ, TX, GA and FL just as much as it hurts Calexico. 

Q1:  3.2%

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Wow. Tax cuts and huge defect spending increases GDP.  I guess Obama was right

Whodathunk?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-26/china-s-xi-signals-approval-for-trump-s-trade-war-demands

Please stop; too much winning

posted by Devils Advocate

Wow. Tax cuts and huge defect spending increases GDP.  I guess Obama was right

Whodathunk?

Except the government was shut down for half the quarter, and that was going to crater the economy and there was wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Try again.

I guess that makes Trump the anti Christ

Make Armegedon Go Away

APRIL JOBS +263K
UNEMPLOYMENT 49-YEAR LOW
WAGE HITS $27.77 HOUR!

maga

posted by QuakerOats

 

APRIL JOBS +263K
UNEMPLOYMENT 49-YEAR LOW
WAGE HITS $27.77 HOUR!

 

 

maga

Nobody could have predicted that the economy would improve when you increase the budget deficit! #WayToGoTrump #MAGA

posted by BoatShoes

Nobody could have predicted that the economy would improve when you increase the budget deficit! #WayToGoTrump #MAGA

Spending as % GDP has gone down each of the last 2 years. Actual spending has gone up, but compared to GDP is has not.

You have always been a proponent of spending whatever it takes, only recently (probably to fit your narrative) have you been just as "happy" with tax cuts bringing in "less revenue".  

Since Spending as a percent GDP has gone down it kind of debunks your Keynesian philosophy no matter how you try to move the goal posts to act like you are all for tax cuts all the sudden since it is "deficit creating". You never cared about deficits, that part is true, but you were always on the "just spend more money regardless of the deficit" you never cared about cutting taxes until Trump did it and it has worked.

….manufacturers have added 17,000 workers per month over the past 12 months, a solid rate overall, and there were 12,838,000 employees in the sector in April, the most since December 2008.

• - - - but, but barry said those jobs were not coming back ….

He'd be a lot higher if he didn't constantly act like a 3rd grade on Twitter.

posted by gut

He'd be a lot higher if he didn't constantly act like a 3rd grade on Twitter.

posted by QuakerOats

And that is with non-stop bashing from the MSM, 24/7/365.  He’d be at 70% if not for the media carrying the water of the democrat party.  Sickening.

You are both right.....

posted by gut

He'd be a lot higher if he didn't constantly act like a 3rd grade on Twitter.

My opinion Trump himself has cost him about 10% by acting like a 3rd grader. The MSM constant negativity has probably cost him another 10%.

If Bush, Obama, anyone else had the same numbers and successes they would have been at 70%. No POTUS will really break 70-75% as there will always bee 25-30% of the "opposite" side who will never like them no matter what they do right.

posted by jmog

My opinion Trump himself has cost him about 10% by acting like a 3rd grader. The MSM constant negativity has probably cost him another 10%.

 

If Bush, Obama, anyone else had the same numbers and successes they would have been at 70%. No POTUS will really break 70-75% as there will always bee 25-30% of the "opposite" side who will never like them no matter what they do right.

Perhaps. His trade war talk is also not helping things. As I'm sure the economy would be doing even better if not for his dumb trade war tariff stuff. 

But, the more I think about it recently, the more I think Trump is like Clinton, but Bill Clinton. A shady dude that people do not like personally, but as long as the economy is doing well can be mildly popular job approval wise. I think if Trump can really hone in and hammer the economic message as long as it continues to improve, he will be damn near impossible to beat. People hated Clinton's personal life, but his job approval ratings never really dipped in his later years. This could be the lesson for Trump. 

US Steel to build 2 plants in Pa.

US Steel's Edgar Thomson mill in Pennsylvania will receive the first US facility to combine thin-slab casting with hot-rolled band production in a continuous process. The investment will also add a cogeneration facility at the Clairton Coke Plant as US Steel moves "from playing defense to offense," CEO David Burritt says.

How refreshing!  We have gone from “you didn’t build that” and “those jobs aren’t coming back”, to real investments in real assets and real jobs. 

The differences between the socialists and Marxists, and the republicans and capitalists have never been more clear in this country.

posted by ptown_trojans_1

This could be lesson for Trump. 

Well, that kinda seals the deal for President Biden, then, doesn't it? lol

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Perhaps. His trade war talk is also not helping things. As I'm sure the economy would be doing even better if not for his dumb trade war tariff stuff. 

But, the more I think about it recently, the more I think Trump is like Clinton, but Bill Clinton. A shady dude that people do not like personally, but as long as the economy is doing well can be mildly popular job approval wise. I think if Trump can really hone in and hammer the economic message as long as it continues to improve, he will be damn near impossible to beat. People hated Clinton's personal life, but his job approval ratings never really dipped in his later years. This could be the lesson for Trump. 

You know, I've not heard anybody else articulate this take, but it makes a lot of sense.  Reps.

I'm struggling to understand how US steel companies are expanding.  That seems like a potentially risky bet that the next POTUS won't change course on trade.