Disgusted with progressives, part 2...

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BoatShoes

Senior Member

Sat, Aug 25, 2018 3:50 PM
posted by iclfan2

Lol CNN defending chanting “death to America” to own the cons. Has any “news” channel ruined their reputation more than them? 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/22/middleeast/tehran-response-sanctions-intl/index.html

Sorry guy - didn't really seem to me they were "defending" the phrase "death to America." 

In reality that was pretty interesting news reporting on a complex situation from on the ground sourcing that shows the value of having overseas bureaus but has an incredibly stupid click bait title that makes people say "ZOMG YOU SEE CNN DEFENDJNG DIS!!" without even reading the article. 

gut

Senior Member

Sun, Aug 26, 2018 4:52 AM
posted by BoatShoes

We will be sharing a laugh of about how the bond market continues to prove Gut wrong year after year after year. 

LMFAO....So you just started buying bonds recently....with no clue about historic returns?

surely your kids think you're a communist dumbass

 

BoatShoes

Senior Member

Sun, Aug 26, 2018 11:42 PM
posted by gut

LMFAO....So you just started buying bonds recently....with no clue about historic returns?

surely your kids think you're a communist dumbass

 

Might want to read that again when you're not drunk posting in the wee hours of a Sunday morning there buddy. Never said anything about buying bonds or returns. I was simply pointing out that while you predict disasters from deficits year after year the free bond markets disagree with you. 

P.S. nothing says winning like ranting about another guy's kids on a sparsely visited web forum when you're drunk and alone on a beautiful summer evening. 

gut

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 27, 2018 2:59 AM
posted by BoatShoes

Might want

blah blah blah.....you're insufferably ignorant

 

gut

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 27, 2018 3:03 AM
posted by gut

blah blah blah.....you're insufferably ignorant

Mostly insufferable....but an otherwise total dumbshit.   How many guilty parties did you jerk off for sympathy?

 

BoatShoes

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 27, 2018 8:16 AM
posted by gut

Mostly insufferable....but an otherwise total dumbshit.   How many guilty parties did you jerk off for sympathy?

 

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like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Mon, Aug 27, 2018 8:24 AM

Gut and BS going at it is always electric entertainment. 

SportsAndLady

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 27, 2018 8:58 AM
posted by like_that

Gut and BS going at it is always electric entertainment. 

Gut’s meltdowns are the best. 

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Mon, Aug 27, 2018 10:46 AM
posted by BoatShoes

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lol'd.

Hard.

queencitybuckeye

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 27, 2018 10:52 AM
posted by like_that

Gut and BS going at it is always electric entertainment. 

The intellectual championship of the short bus at stake.

Dr Winston O'Boogie

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 27, 2018 11:23 AM
posted by iclfan2

Lol CNN defending chanting “death to America” to own the cons. Has any “news” channel ruined their reputation more than them? 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/22/middleeast/tehran-response-sanctions-intl/index.html

I am guessing you didn't read this article.  It is actually a piece about how average Iranians think well of the American people.  

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Mon, Aug 27, 2018 11:30 AM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

I am guessing you didn't read this article.  It is actually a piece about how average Iranians think well of the American people.  

I did read it. The article was actual decent aside from trying to say that "Death to America" only means the government and that they actually like our people, which is a dumbass take. Call the article "How Irans view Americans" and don't talk about chanting death to america. Click Baity shit ruins the point.

CenterBHSFan

333 - I'm only half evil

Mon, Aug 27, 2018 11:55 AM

I really, really wish that the gun-grabbers would get it through their thick skulls that guns are not going to go away. Really sick of every murder/mass shooting being turned into a national political event. There are now headlines blaming it on white supremacy, patriarchy, toxic masculinity, right wingers, etc. It's fucking awful.

Figure out how to make existing laws actually work or get rid of them if they cannot be functional or feasible. Face reality and not ideology. There are people who are fucking nuts everywhere. Unless you lock them up forever or put them down like you would a mad dog, there will be crazy people who have the potential to do this. 

gut

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 27, 2018 12:03 PM
posted by BoatShoes

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Mon, Aug 27, 2018 12:23 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

I really, really wish that the gun-grabbers would get it through their thick skulls that guns are not going to go away. Really sick of every murder/mass shooting being turned into a national political event. There are now headlines blaming it on white supremacy, patriarchy, toxic masculinity, right wingers, etc. It's fucking awful.

Figure out how to make existing laws actually work or get rid of them if they cannot be functional or feasible. Face reality and not ideology. There are people who are fucking nuts everywhere. Unless you lock them up forever or put them down like you would a mad dog, there will be crazy people who have the potential to do this. 

The best is that a week ago they bitched that the right politicized the illegal immigrant killing the Iowa girl. 

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Mon, Aug 27, 2018 12:50 PM
posted by iclfan2

The best is that a week ago they bitched that the right politicized the illegal immigrant killing the Iowa girl. 

Well ... I did see a lot of that happening.  More than one even went so far as to say that our immigration policy killed that girl.

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Mon, Aug 27, 2018 12:53 PM
posted by CenterBHSFan

I really, really wish that the gun-grabbers would get it through their thick skulls that guns are not going to go away. Really sick of every murder/mass shooting being turned into a national political event. There are now headlines blaming it on white supremacy, patriarchy, toxic masculinity, right wingers, etc. It's fucking awful.

Figure out how to make existing laws actually work or get rid of them if they cannot be functional or feasible. Face reality and not ideology. There are people who are fucking nuts everywhere. Unless you lock them up forever or put them down like you would a mad dog, there will be crazy people who have the potential to do this. 

While I simply loathe the idea of blaming other people for one person's actions, I'm not sure there isn't at least something to a cultural link between violence and masculinity.

After all, the vastly overwhelming majority of teens who commit acts of violence at this level are boys.

Now, that neither explicitly or implicitly points to a solution.  Just merely an observation.

queencitybuckeye

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 27, 2018 1:10 PM
posted by O-Trap

While I simply loathe the idea of blaming other people for one person's actions, I'm not sure there isn't at least something to a cultural link between violence and masculinity.

After all, the vastly overwhelming majority of teens who commit acts of violence at this level are boys.

Now, that neither explicitly or implicitly points to a solution.  Just merely an observation.

All true, but a large percentage of violent criminals were raised by one parent, overwhelmingly a woman.

 

BoatShoes

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 27, 2018 1:17 PM

Let's take a moment to shake our heads at the role the Democrats and "the left" of our country treating John McCain, George W. Bush & Mitt Romney like "literally Hitler" played in giving us Donald Trump.

Among all of the kind words for McCain I'd like to see some of these people who gave him the trump treatment when he was the top dawg have a mea culpa (will,blnever happen). 

And although he doesn't post here anymore - I do think,somethong like that was HitsRus' basic point in starting the original thread. 

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Mon, Aug 27, 2018 1:50 PM
posted by queencitybuckeye

All true, but a large percentage of violent criminals were raised by one parent, overwhelmingly a woman.

Perhaps (I haven't seen the data on that).  I don't know whether or not an example of toxic masculinity (whatever that might actually mean) is necessary to perpetuate it.  Perhaps the absence of a masculine authority at all is sufficient.  Who knows?
 

posted by BoatShoes

Let's take a moment to shake our heads at the role the Democrats and "the left" of our country treating John McCain, George W. Bush & Mitt Romney like "literally Hitler" played in giving us Donald Trump.

Among all of the kind words for McCain I'd like to see some of these people who gave him the trump treatment when he was the top dawg have a mea culpa (will,blnever happen). 

And although he doesn't post here anymore - I do think,somethong like that was HitsRus' basic point in starting the original thread. 

It feels like a "don't know what you've got until it's gone" moment in politics.  Politicians and politically-minded citizens on opposite sides of the aisle of the day used to be able to sit in a room and be cordial with each other.  They saw each other as "wrong" or, at worst, "dumb."  They didn't have to see each other as "evil."

 

gut

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 27, 2018 2:06 PM
posted by O-Trap

They didn't have to see each other as "evil."

Because it would be unconscionable to vote for a racist/sexist/homophobe etc....  I'm not sure when the left went all-in on identity politics (circa 2006?), but I do remember when they used to promote the individual, rather than herd people into victimization groups.

Whether or not you agree with his politics, McCain was the sort of politician everyone claims we wish we had more of...yet he was pretty viscously attacked by BOTH right and left wingers over the years.  Politics has been turned into a football game, except the fans are much, much dumber.

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Mon, Aug 27, 2018 2:12 PM
posted by gut

Because it would be unconscionable to vote for a racist/sexist/homophobe etc....  I'm not sure when the left went all-in on identity politics (circa 2006?), but I do remember when they used to promote the individual, rather than herd people into victimization groups.

Whether or not you agree with his politics, McCain was the sort of politician everyone claims we wish we had more of...yet he was pretty viscously attacked by BOTH right and left wingers over the years.  Politics has been turned into a football game, except the fans are much, much dumber.

And more vicious.

We've bought in to the myth of Skeletor.  Maybe we watched too many cartoons or movies with this plot, but somewhere along the line, we adopted the view that politics wasn't different philosophies on how to govern, but rather the forces of good versus the forces of evil, and each party knows what side it's on.

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Mon, Aug 27, 2018 2:14 PM
posted by O-Trap

Well ... I did see a lot of that happening.  More than one even went so far as to say that our immigration policy killed that girl.

I know that they did, but it's the most hypocritical complaint ever. If every shooting you blame the NRA, you can stfu about anyone else politicizing a death. ESPECIALLY, when you openly advocate breaking laws that would stop things like that from happening (sanctuary cities, open borders, etc). 

gut

Senior Member

Mon, Aug 27, 2018 2:22 PM
posted by O-Trap

We've bought in to the myth of Skeletor.  

LOL.  Like I've said, I really don't understand the need to make shit up to attack Trump personally.  First off, there's plenty to dislike already (although I think a lot has to do with the fact that his policies are working, relatively speaking, and the liberal media would rather talk about anything else).  But second, it just doesn't work.  None of this is a scandal, because everyone knew who Trump was before he even announced he was running.

Hahahah....a few days ago, Cohen was the "smoking gun".  Now his lawyer is walking things back, again.  The liberal media really is Charlie Brown trying to kick that football.

O-Trap

Chief Shenanigans Officer

Mon, Aug 27, 2018 2:57 PM
posted by iclfan2

I know that they did, but it's the most hypocritical complaint ever. If every shooting you blame the NRA, you can stfu about anyone else politicizing a death. ESPECIALLY, when you openly advocate breaking laws that would stop things like that from happening (sanctuary cities, open borders, etc). 

You're not wrong that it's hypocritical, but it's one of those things where both sides are almost necessarily being hypocritical.  If every crime committed by an illegal immigrant that makes the national stage gets used to blame the current immigration policy or the lack of a wall, then it doesn't seem justified to call out anybody who does the same thing with regard to shootings and gun policy.
 

posted by gut

LOL.  Like I've said, I really don't understand the need to make shit up to attack Trump personally.  First off, there's plenty to dislike already (although I think a lot has to do with the fact that his policies are working, relatively speaking, and the liberal media would rather talk about anything else).  But second, it just doesn't work.  None of this is a scandal, because everyone knew who Trump was before he even announced he was running.

Hahahah....a few days ago, Cohen was the "smoking gun".  Now his lawyer is walking things back, again.  The liberal media really is Charlie Brown trying to kick that football.

Yeah, Trump is actually sort of unique in that EVERYONE knew who he was before this whole thing began.  The man's been in the spotlight as a celebrity for decades.

For whatever reason, though (I personally think it's the rampancy of the empty self disorder and the felt need for dramatics, real or imagined), we've bought into this idea that, at least on matters of what we perceive to be important, there is a side that can be described as self-aware evil.  They're evil.  They know they're evil.  They're trying to further the cause of evil.  Hence the reference to Skeletor.

I honestly have to say I'm a little worried at where that will take us.