Disgusted with progressives, part 2...

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justincredible

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Thu, Aug 16, 2018 12:14 PM

100% of all racists drink water. 

ptown_trojans_1

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Thu, Aug 16, 2018 12:19 PM
posted by queencitybuckeye

You do understand that the KKK was started by Democrats, correct?

Not to get in the middle of this shitshow, but that's irrelevant. 

The party of 1870 is different than the party today. Most of those southern democrats left the party once LBJ signed the Voting Rights Act. There is no such thing as a Dixiecrat anymore. Whoever was left in the south fully moved over to Reagan in the 80s.  

geeblock

Member

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 12:19 PM

Also yes I know the kkk was formed when dems were in office and I know there is a pic of Hillary with a guy in a klan uniform. I also know about Chicago 

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 12:20 PM

geeblock, you can go all day, but at the end, people voted for the guy. They voted for a borderline racist. That's America in a nutshell. Clinton was so bad, we decided to go with the borderline racist. 

geeblock

Member

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 12:22 PM
posted by geeblock

Also yes I know the kkk was formed when dems were in office and I know there is a pic of Hillary with a guy in a klan uniform. I also know about chic

Haha I posted this before I read that. That is the dumbest statement people make in 2018 the dems made the kkk lolol

geeblock

Member

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 12:24 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

geeblock, you can go all day, but at the end, people voted for the guy. They voted for a borderline racist. That's America in a nutshell. Clinton was so bad, we decided to go with the borderline racist. 

I don’t have a problem with that lol but he is trying to tell me that I am blind. Or that the reason I should also do that is that the dems are so bad. The rebublican party in my opinion doesn’t want any black votes. The strategy is just rile  up enough white people and it won’t matter what everyone else votes

geeblock

Member

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 12:25 PM
posted by queencitybuckeye

You do understand that the KKK was started by Democrats, correct?

Take a history class lol 

geeblock

Member

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 12:36 PM
posted by gut

LMFAO....one of the most ignorant things you've said on here.

Lol if this is coming off as saying if you are s Republican and voted for trump you are racist that isn’t at all what I’m saying. I am however saying that if you are a racist this is an amazing time to be alive since the 60’s when America was great 

jmog

Senior Member

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 12:37 PM
posted by geeblock

Sadly the track record for the right is worse. There is a reason 100% of racists vote repu

I call bull shit, unless you truly believe that it is impossible for a black person to be racist...(hint, it is possible).

jmog

Senior Member

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 12:39 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

Not to get in the middle of this shitshow, but that's irrelevant. 

The party of 1870 is different than the party today. Most of those southern democrats left the party once LBJ signed the Voting Rights Act. There is no such thing as a Dixiecrat anymore. Whoever was left in the south fully moved over to Reagan in the 80s.  

What would you call the Clinton/Arkansas democrats if not dixiecrats?

 

 

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 12:40 PM
posted by geeblock

 It’s possible but if u put the trump agenda and the nazi/klan agenda side by side they line up well . 

Oh yea? Hating Jews and Blacks is part of Trumps agenda? 

I’m not going to argue that most racist groups don’t support the right, but it has nothing to do with Trump, they didn’t magically start being right leaning with him.

BoatShoes

Senior Member

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 12:41 PM
posted by jmog

You obviously have not watched how CNN and MSNBC treat AA conservatives. Unless you are willing to call those “left wing nut jobs”. 

Let's see some examples of what you're talking about since you consume so much MSNBC and CNN. A Search for "CNN Black Conservatives" on youtube shows results for videos wherein a voice is given to a black conservative claiming to being called a sellout; a profile on the GOP's rising black stars, the GOP running a record number of black nominees and segments with Stephen A. Smith saying that the democrats take black votes for granted and that black people should vote GOP. 

What a surprise your beliefs about black conservatives are just as obscured by your confirmation as your beliefs about Dinosaurs living on the Ark. 

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 12:43 PM
posted by jmog

What would you call the Clinton/Arkansas democrats if not dixiecrats?

 

 

Sure, but that was the 1980s and he was the last big southern democratic. There really isn't a southern democrat anymore. I mean you have one or two more near some urban areas, but for the most part, the south his really, really red and has been since the early 80s. 

iclfan2

Reppin' the 330/216/843

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 12:45 PM
posted by jmog

I call bull shit, unless you truly believe that it is impossible for a black person to be racist...(hint, it is possible).

No, you see the left made up a new definition of racism where you have to have some imaginanary power to be racist, not just actually hating someone for being a color. 

BoatShoes

Senior Member

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 12:56 PM
posted by like_that

If you read the thread, I never said they were called uncle toms.  I explained the modern day "uncle tom" tactics.  Please try to keep it.   

As for the bolded: Each "extraordinary" claim is completely independent from each other, so IOW you're narrative that conservatives overreact to everything the left does/says is largely exaggerated.  

Define "Uncle Tom Tactic" - is it refusing to give special credence to black conservatives who criticize contemporary liberalism just because they're black? Because it sounds to me like that's what you want. 

geeblock

Member

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 1:13 PM

Ok leaving the black people out of it. Who are the smartest, richest, most popular, most respected white person that endors trump?

queencitybuckeye

Senior Member

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 1:21 PM
posted by iclfan2

No, you see the left made up a new definition of racism where you have to have some imaginanary power to be racist, not just actually hating someone for being a color. 

Which in situations that don't fit the narrative, you get made-up terms like "Hispanic white supremacist". 

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 1:33 PM
posted by geeblock

People that are confirmed racists vote republican does that mean there aren’t some extra racists that vote dem? It’s possible but if u put the trump agenda and the nazi/klan agenda side by side they line up well . There is a reason trump supporters on here and everywhere are complaining about being called racists. It’s the party where racists go. So ok 99%. We can bicker about the number but my point is accurate. I can give you multiple nazi groups and links from kkk that show what party they endorse if necessary I guess 

 

posted by geeblock

 

https://www.vox.com/2016/2/28/11129120/donald-trump-david-duke

 

 

posted by geeblock

https://www.vox.com/2017/8/12/16138358/charlottesville-protests-david-duke-kkk

 

 

posted by geeblock

I can go all day 

 

 

posted by geeblock

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/look-what-crawled-out-from-under-trumps-rock/2018/07/11/06de2588-8544-11e8-9e80-403a221946a7_story.html?utm_term=.63b37101cc5c

 

I ask for you to prove that 100% racists vote republican, and you give me anecdotal evidence (lol at using an op-ed btw).  All of this is based on your assumption that racism is exclusive to white conservatives, which in itself is pretty racist logic.

 

Pretty much sums at your entire argument. 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Sure, but that was the 1980s and he was the last big southern democratic. There really isn't a southern democrat anymore. I mean you have one or two more near some urban areas, but for the most part, the south his really, really red and has been since the early 80s. 

This is based on the assumption that the entire south is racist.  All i hear is how the big switch came after the civil rights act even though

-Only 1/21 dem senators crossed over to the GOP after the civil rights act was passed.  It took over 2 decades for the other 20 seats to turn red. 

-The GOP was already competitive in the south well before the civil rights act.

-The GOP didn't hold a majority of southern seats until 1996. Keep in mind after the civl rights act two democratic presidents won the south. 

All of this and you're telling me that the GOP decided to become racist 30 years later?  Not to if you look at the states with the highest % of of african americans, it is dominated by the south.  You would think if the south was so racist, the African Americans in those states would quit voting for conservatives.   Quit moving the goalposts on the "parties switched" argument.  You know it is deeply flawed.  If you want to look why the south votes for the GOP over DNC all you have to do is look at the values of the south.  The DNC has completely abandoned the bible belt and the GOP hasn't.  There is your simple answer. 

 

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 1:37 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

geeblock, you can go all day, but at the end, people voted for the guy. They voted for a borderline racist. That's America in a nutshell. Clinton was so bad, we decided to go with the borderline racist. 

I was wondering who would be the first to come in with the superiority complex and virtue signal.  Not shocked at all it was you at all. 

posted by geeblock

Take a history class lol 

I'd recommend you take your own advice and pick up many other types of classes and books.  A lot of the things you claim to be are easily being picked apart by your own posts. 
 

 

ptown_trojans_1

Moderator

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 1:39 PM
posted by like_that

 

posted by ptown_trojans_1

Sure, but that was the 1980s and he was the last big southern democratic. There really isn't a southern democrat anymore. I mean you have one or two more near some urban areas, but for the most part, the south his really, really red and has been since the early 80s. 

This is based on the assumption that the entire south is racist.  All i hear is how the big switch came after the civil rights act even though

-Only 1/21 dem senators crossed over to the GOP after the civil rights act was passed.  It took over 2 decades for the other 20 seats to turn red. 

-The GOP was already competitive in the south well before the civil rights act.

-The GOP didn't hold a majority of southern seats until 1996. Keep in mind after the civl rights act two democratic presidents won the south. 

All of this and you're telling me that the GOP decided to become racist 30 years later?  Not to if you look at the states with the highest % of of african americans, it is dominated by the south.  You would think if the south was so racist, the African Americans in those states would quit voting for conservatives.   Quit moving the goalposts on the "parties switched" argument.  You know it is deeply flawed.  If you want to look why the south votes for the GOP over DNC all you have to do is look at the values of the south.  The DNC has completely abandoned the bible belt and the GOP hasn't.  There is your simple answer. 

True. All I was saying was the modern parties change over time and hence you cannot say the democrats created the Klan, so therefore all Ds are racists. We agree that I wasn't saying everyone in the south is racist. 

I guess a better way to say it is the parties we know today started to form in the 80s with Reagan, but then really became what they are in the 90s. 

I'd also agree that the DNC has abandoned the bible belt while the GOP has pretty much abandoned urban areas and the northeast. 

queencitybuckeye

Senior Member

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 1:44 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

True. All I was saying was the modern parties change over time and hence you cannot say the democrats created the Klan, so therefore all Ds are racists.

Which of course wasn't said. I said the first part as context to disprove an implication clearly being made by another poster.

 

like_that

1st Team All-PWN

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 1:46 PM
posted by ptown_trojans_1

True. All I was saying was the modern parties change over time and hence you cannot say the democrats created the Klan, so therefore all Ds are racists. We agree that I wasn't saying everyone in the south is racist. 

I guess a better way to say it is the parties we know today started to form in the 80s with Reagan, but then really became what they are in the 90s. 

I'd also agree that the DNC has abandoned the bible belt while the GOP has pretty much abandoned urban areas and the northeast. 

Fair.  Regardless, to legitimately believe that all racists vote for the GOP is a joke.  1. As I said earlier it's under the assumption that racism is exclusive to only white conservatives, which in itself is racist logic and 2. this is based on the left arbitrarily moving the goalposts and decided what is/isn't racism. 

All of this btw, and Trumps approval ratings with black people has gone from 17% a year a go to 36% now.  He has a lot of character issues, but hopefully this is a sign that black people are waking up and realizing that the democrats don't give a fuck about them, never will give a fuck about them, and will continue to do nothing for them, except fool them into believing they have their best interests in mind. 

gut

Senior Member

Thu, Aug 16, 2018 1:47 PM
posted by queencitybuckeye

Which in situations that don't fit the narrative, you get made-up terms like "Hispanic white supremacist". 

I just don't think oppressing blacks is probably very high on the list of things that are important to your typical redneck racist.  And why would it be, if we're to believe all the arguments about white privilege? 

But the truth is, the instant black people stop blindly voting against "racist Repubs" then identity politics will be dead in the Democratic party because none of them will be able to win an election.

 

Really interesting comment I saw the other day was that BOTH parties have an interest in perpetuating these stereotypes, because if people would put the racial division aside and recognize the issue is more about WEALTH privilege, then poor people find unity and perhaps force a change to the status quo.  And the reality is Dems and Repubs aren't particularly interested in changing the status quo, but only about winning elections.